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2022-10-05 11:55:39 AM  
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One slip-up and you fall into the ocean....
 
2022-10-05 12:50:21 PM  
Nobody goes to Italy anymore. It's always too crowded.
 
2022-10-05 1:24:58 PM  
What the fark is a vacation?
 
2022-10-05 1:25:46 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: What the fark is a vacation?


Ive heard rumor that some people can afford to not work.
 
2022-10-05 1:28:04 PM  
Go fark yourself, knower of all things travel, Positano is awesome!
 
2022-10-05 1:28:20 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: What the fark is a vacation?


Some of my coworkers seem to be asking that every year even though they get 4 weeks and are paid enough to afford one. I don't get it, I tried to negotiate an extra 2 weeks a year but couldn't get it. I use all of my days and have for the last 20 years after an employer went from rollover to none with only weeks of notice.
 
2022-10-05 1:31:07 PM  
Breaking News: calling things a tourist trap is too boomer, lets call it instagraming. That way we can yell at kids these days, and pretend us and our parents didn't drag out the Kodak for 100 pictures back in the 70s.
 
2022-10-05 1:33:03 PM  
The proper way to vacation when poor:
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2022-10-05 1:34:23 PM  
Was in Italy recently the the article is right. Too many tourists. Ugh.
 
2022-10-05 1:34:26 PM  
Just go to a place you think you'll enjoy and can afford. Make sure research it beforehand to make sure you can get to all the fun places without being stuck at overcrowded tourist traps. My wife and I do Atlantic City each year since it's inexpensive, close by in Jersey, we love pools (Ocean Casino Resort has the best roof pool out of all of the casino hotels), and it's close to the other resort towns (Wildwood, Ocean City (NJ), LBI, etc.) that we can enjoy the area and I can get my pinball addiction fulfilled!
 
2022-10-05 1:34:43 PM  
I'm headed down to see my parents in Florida on Sunday, I'll fly back up the following Saturday.

It'll be nice to have a week with no fixed plans.
 
2022-10-05 1:35:22 PM  

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One slip-up and you fall into the ocean....


More likely onto a neighbor's roof.
 
2022-10-05 1:37:39 PM  
Going to San Antonio.  Why the fark would I do that?
 
2022-10-05 1:40:12 PM  
I was there in the 1990's during the spring for a day and it was great, not many tourists. I was there in the winter recently for a few hours and it was nice because nobody goes there in the winter (I don't like people so that works for me). I would imagine in the summer it would be terrible with terrible traffic too. Nice place to visit, wouldn't want to stay there. Also, love the instagram pic of the woman sitting on a nice clean comforter on a dirty roof that she was probably not supposed to be on. I guess she was too poor to get a nice terrace room.
 
2022-10-05 1:45:53 PM  
My wife took my eldest to Italy back in June/July for 18 days after he graduated high school. 
She is the ultimate planner and worked everything out, reserved all the AirBnBs/hotels/trains/etc ahead of time.
I could have gone, but I HATE travelling. By me not going, their budget expanded the $4-6k that my airfare, additional accomodation space/train/food/etc costs would have devoured.

I've always felt that while I may be able to afford to "get there", I can't afford much once I am there. 
I've heard that "such and such" a place has "great shopping!!!". Great! But I can't afford to shop there once I've paid to get there. The cost of baggage on airlines is disgusting to me now and taking an empty suitcase at a stupid cost just to fill it up w/souvenirs or whatever is pointless. My house is too small to display anything. 

Yes, I am a travel grump. I told my wife the year before we went to a Club Med in Mexico that I was never leaving the country again. 2 years later we were in the UK... But this time I mean it! I'm never leaving the US again. 

I've spent enough time overseas (1.5 years in Iceland, 2 years in Germany,) 2 trips to Italy, 2 trips to the UK, Canada/Mexico... I've seen enough.
 
2022-10-05 1:47:07 PM  

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One slip-up and you fall into the ocean....


Well that would be difficult, considering that the nearest ocean is over 1500 miles away from there.
 
2022-10-05 1:49:07 PM  
at this point i think "taking your kids" should be on the list.

\good thing i'm predisposed to loving those little shiats.
 
2022-10-05 1:53:44 PM  

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One slip-up and you fall into the ocean....


Q-bert's #1 destination
 
2022-10-05 1:54:00 PM  

flamark: Was in Italy recently the the article is right. Too many tourists. Ugh.


Depends where you go. Everyone tends to go to Florence, Venice, and Rome. There are more tourists there than locals, it seems. Conversely, Sanremo, Torino, Milano, Lake Como, Aosta, and Cortina d'Ampezzo are all so much better than the more traveled areas of Italy and they're not overrun with tourists. Of course, they're all on the north where I prefer to go, so I'm cool with that.
 
2022-10-05 1:55:36 PM  
Is it because everyone wants you to download their app to do stuff?
 
2022-10-05 1:58:03 PM  
I don't know, I kinda get it. First off - I don't really pay attention to Instagram, so I tend to miss these kinds of places altogether. Second - I've always tended to stray from the normal path other take anyway. We haven't done much internationally, but even so, they haven't been places we've sought out before. Just had the ability to grab cheap flights with points when something interesting popped up

Like Costa Rica. Had a few friends tell us to stay in Tamarindo and get to Arenal. We stayed in a house on a hill in Guanacaste and went to Rincon de la Vieja instead. Not the slightest bit busy, great hiking and damn near had a lagoon with a waterfall to ourselves. We visited Tamarindo for a portion of a day, found it way too crowded and bailed.

Or Tenerife. "Stay in Playa de las Americas!", people said. We got an AirBnb in Santa Ursula and used Puerto de la Cruz as our jumping off point. We did a whale watching tour out of Playa, and again, were glad we didn't stay there.
 
2022-10-05 2:00:04 PM  
If you are following vacation advice from "internet influencers", then yes subby, you're doing it wrong.
 
2022-10-05 2:01:24 PM  
I went to Italy in August. It was claustrophobic, as TFA describes. I didn't go to this place but I went to Bellagio. It was absolutely gorgeous and worth the trip but it was SO crowded.

Also really hot. Never go to Italy in August if you can help it.
 
2022-10-05 2:05:12 PM  
I follow this guy's advice:

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/and get stoned out of my mind
 
2022-10-05 2:07:40 PM  
Sounds like the article writer would be happier vacationing in the off season.

I know I am.
 
2022-10-05 2:15:22 PM  

h2ogate: Nobody goes to Italy anymore. It's always too crowded.


The TLDR of this story.
 
2022-10-05 2:21:00 PM  
There's never been a better time to be a non-mass-herd tourist.  Thirty years ago, sure, it was hard to figure out how to make sure you had a cheap room that met your minimum baseline in Maldonado, Uruguay and maybe you didn't have any clue where the restaurants/street food were in Balikpapan, Borneo. So you didn't go to those places, you followed the guide book to Venice. The same guide book as everyone else had. In the year 2022, you've got Google Translate and working LTE the second you step off the plane. Booking.com has every 3-room backpacker's guesthouse listed.  Get off the beaten path.
 
2022-10-05 2:23:28 PM  
Well, the fundamental problem the article writer has is he completely misunderstands what a unique experience is.

It doesn't mean you and only you get to experience it.

It means you can't go anywhere else and see essentially the same thing.

So biatching that something neat is crowded and "out of your reach"...

Yeah, go be poor and stupid somewhere else.
 
2022-10-05 2:23:52 PM  
I read about a 3rd of that article before my eyes glazed over and I fell asleep only to wake up with my boss standing over me telling me I can have all the vacation time I ever wanted, but now, thanks the article I don't know where to go.
 
2022-10-05 2:24:04 PM  
If you can't afford vacations, move to where people vacation to.
You won't even want to travel anywhere else.
But when you do, hell yeah can't wait to get back home.
 
2022-10-05 2:31:36 PM  
If there are Hookers, I'm there.
 
2022-10-05 2:32:06 PM  

BrerRobot: If you can't afford vacations, move to where people vacation to.
You won't even want to travel anywhere else.
But when you do, hell yeah can't wait to get back home.


Vacations are waaay overrated unless we are talking about slow travel here.

Most people are unwilling to do this or have roots and can't, but in mid 20s after the Navy I moved to St Pete Beach and loved it.  Living downtown now and it's run it's course since COVID.  Next stop is Mexico (would love to move to Brazil but they won't let me in)
 
2022-10-05 2:34:23 PM  
FTFA: but contains only small traces of its ancient past; as our tour guide explained, "there is no history here, it is just for relaxing and for pictures."

Yeah, that sounds absolutely terrifying.

Anyways, the core argument this guy has is that everywhere he goes, there's just too damn many people.

Stay the fark home then.
 
2022-10-05 2:35:10 PM  

Ethertap: I'm headed down to see my parents in Florida on Sunday, I'll fly back up the following Saturday.

It'll be nice to have a week with no fixed plans.


Thats my every vacation. Each year we pick somewhere to go, and then stay flexible and don't make plans ahead of time, and every vacation I've taken for the past 20 years has been awesome. Next summer we are spending 2 weeks and going to Greece, Italy, and Paris and at this point I have no idea what things were going to do, but it will be fantastic.
 
2022-10-05 2:37:03 PM  
FTA: Nor is it really the fault of the crowds, though like seemingly everywhere else in Italy, they are rampant and inescapable and at times contribute to a sense of claustrophobic doom so great that the only way out is divorcing yourself from your body and disassociating until you finally reach open air. Rather, what's most disturbing about being in Positano is the knowledge that you have been suckered, and the realization that just because you have the means to go somewhere does not mean that you are owed anything more than the experiential equivalent of flying Basic Economy.

Wait until she finds out about Disney World.

Hey, lady, you could always just go camping in the woods.
 
2022-10-05 2:41:22 PM  
The problem of travel at this particular moment is not too many people traveling in general, it is too many people wanting to experience the exact same thing because they all went to the same websites and read the same reviews.

The Rick Steves effect.
 
2022-10-05 2:43:08 PM  
The fact that there are so many more people traveling internationally now than ever before in history is not necessarily a bad thing; luxuries that were once only afforded to the ultra-rich have been democratized by low-cost airlines and cheap deals

The world is burning down around us (literally) due to climate change, the global airline industry transported almost 5 billion passengers the year before the pandemic and traffic is picking up again, and it's not necessarily a bad thing that people are traveling everywhere for fun?

I've heard plenty of times here on Fark that the problem isn't the billions of people traveling for fun, it's the ultra-rich.  Of course.  They have private planes, and even though their travel makes up an infinitesimal volume of the total air traffic, that makes them the culprits.
 
2022-10-05 2:45:44 PM  
I mean ... LOL. If you travel to Europe in the summer, it's going to cost more than at almost any other time of the year (except for December, I guess). Any "tourist destination" is like that. They're not promising you anything other than "Here we are! Here's our stuff! Please visit and give us your money!"

I'm an old so I don't really give a shiat what Instagram is saying or doing. But vacation regret and ennui has always been a thing. It's not new.

You don't have to leave the U.S. to see beautiful places, so that saves a shiatload of money right there, not paying to fly across the ocean. Visit a place because you want to see it (and do some research, like, go to various websites), not because Instagram supposedly gaslit you with photos that other dipshiats on Instagram took.

This article is kinda dumb.
 
2022-10-05 2:46:36 PM  

eddie_irvine: flamark: Was in Italy recently the the article is right. Too many tourists. Ugh.

Depends where you go. Everyone tends to go to Florence, Venice, and Rome. There are more tourists there than locals, it seems. Conversely, Sanremo, Torino, Milano, Lake Como, Aosta, and Cortina d'Ampezzo are all so much better than the more traveled areas of Italy and they're not overrun with tourists. Of course, they're all on the north where I prefer to go, so I'm cool with that.


You're right. We stayed near Cortina D. and hiked a few days in the mountains. Almost no one was around. It was beautiful. Como was a bit busier with tourists but not as bad as Venice and Florence. Like the article's Portofino, Cinque Terre was all tourists. Parma nice and quiet but dull. This has been your local tourist forecast.
 
2022-10-05 3:15:25 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: What the fark is a vacation?


A famous song by The Go-Go's.
 
2022-10-05 3:19:14 PM  

Trocadero: I follow this guy's advice:

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/and get stoned out of my mind


I still need to visit his store in Edmonds, WA.

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2022-10-05 3:28:48 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I mean ... LOL. If you travel to Europe in the summer, it's going to cost more than at almost any other time of the year (except for December, I guess). Any "tourist destination" is like that. They're not promising you anything other than "Here we are! Here's our stuff! Please visit and give us your money!"

I'm an old so I don't really give a shiat what Instagram is saying or doing. But vacation regret and ennui has always been a thing. It's not new.

You don't have to leave the U.S. to see beautiful places, so that saves a shiatload of money right there, not paying to fly across the ocean. Visit a place because you want to see it (and do some research, like, go to various websites), not because Instagram supposedly gaslit you with photos that other dipshiats on Instagram took.

This article is kinda dumb.


Exactly.  I avoid Europe in the summer....I usually go in May or October.

Prague is my favorite city in Europe, and while it is not as touristy as Paris, Rome, and London...it has become more popular within the past decade.

My "hidden gem" recommendation is Bratislava.  Absolutely beautiful, and I stayed at this incredible hotel with a large room for only $110 per night....per a fellow Fark member's recommendation.

The main part of the city is so compact that I mostly walked everywhere.

Bonus:  I became friends with the owner of a small wine bar...went there every night I was there.

Double bonus:  There are no direct flights to Bratislava from London, so it cuts down on the number of obnoxious Brits.  I had to fly into Vienna and then book a car service through my hotel.
 
2022-10-05 3:32:34 PM  
My travel/vacation stories could fill a book, so let me suffice to tell of my recent travels.

The author is right: tourist traps have little if any culture to speak of. They are designed to give you a sample of the locale, but not the platter.

To compare, in 2020, I traveled to New England when it was safe to do so and legally allowed. I traveled to Salem, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, a little Rhode Island, and Maine. Salem was hokey and touristy, but there were certainly parts that I ventured to that gave me the real local charm. A small donut shop tucked away where a chatty woman made me feel at home while buying coffee and a pastry. Ziggy's and Sons. Go there if you can.

Traveling in NH was equally pleasing, as it was around this time of year. Lots of leaf peepers, but they didn't faze me.

Now, and I tell this with all due gravity. A seriousness heavier than any of my typical postings of Levity as can be found on this site. Dear reader, you must, you must, you must, visit Quoddy ahead State Park and hike the trails. It was a life affirming experience. This picture does not do it Justice.

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By all the gods I care to invoke, it was the most beautiful place I've ever been. Even in its sullen gloom, it was glorious.
 
2022-10-05 3:34:10 PM  
Don't get your travel ideas from social media.   Don't follow influencers.   Go in the off-season if you hate crowds, or are too poor.
 
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2022-10-05 3:34:37 PM  
Vacationing isn't so hard, put your mountain bike on your car and drive to s downhill park.
 
2022-10-05 3:40:54 PM  
Came to find out why the place is so terrible, only found amazing photos posted by the influencer/writer pretending to hate the place while promoting their instagram account.
 
2022-10-05 3:46:01 PM  

The_Sponge: My "hidden gem" recommendation is Bratislava. Absolutely beautiful, and I stayed at this incredible hotel with a large room for only $110 per night....per a fellow Fark member's recommendation.

The main part of the city is so compact that I mostly walked everywhere.

Bonus: I became friends with the owner of a small wine bar...went there every night I was there.

Double bonus: There are no direct flights to Bratislava from London, so it cuts down on the number of obnoxious Brits. I had to fly into Vienna and then book a car service through my hotel.


I've seen a tourist video on the place. Heard you can live like royalty for $1.50US

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2022-10-05 4:00:07 PM  

Calehedron: The_Sponge: My "hidden gem" recommendation is Bratislava. Absolutely beautiful, and I stayed at this incredible hotel with a large room for only $110 per night....per a fellow Fark member's recommendation.

The main part of the city is so compact that I mostly walked everywhere.

Bonus: I became friends with the owner of a small wine bar...went there every night I was there.

Double bonus: There are no direct flights to Bratislava from London, so it cuts down on the number of obnoxious Brits. I had to fly into Vienna and then book a car service through my hotel.

I've seen a tourist video on the place. Heard you can live like royalty for $1.50US

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LOL....I had a hunch someone would bring up EuroTrip.  IIRC, those awful looking apartments were abandoned Soviet military housing outside of Prague.  (Damn I love that movie.)

This is the real Bratislava:

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2022-10-05 4:26:10 PM  
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Kindly fuck the hell off.

Sincerely:

Everyone in the world
 
2022-10-05 6:11:55 PM  
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