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2022-10-05 12:18:34 PM  
No fun is permitted!

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2022-10-05 12:55:19 PM  
Moonajuana?
 
2022-10-05 1:24:02 PM  
I went to an ENT recently for sinus problems. The good news is the problem can be fixed. The bad news is I can't eat or drink and I must sleep standing up. Problem solved. Next?
 
2022-10-05 1:25:14 PM  
So I said to myself, "Krokodil can't be that bad for you..."
 
2022-10-05 1:37:33 PM  
4. Drink less

fark off with that shiat.
 
2022-10-05 1:39:47 PM  
If you're in your 20s, don't fret, we'll have a fix by the time it's a problem. Or you'll have died from climate change, but at least it wasn't cancer.
 
2022-10-05 1:52:04 PM  
i must admit if i was just 10% less dumb when i was younger, i would have had 50% less fun.

knowing the truth of your own youth in this way, is alps why most older people cannot actually take anyone young enough that seriously.

Yeah i said and believed that chit when i had so little xp too...
 
2022-10-05 3:11:04 PM  
Well I for one used plenty of sun screen lotion in my 20's and 30's.

Unfortunately when I was much young we used to get sunburn on purpose just so we could peal the dead skin away so might be too late anyway.

The 70's and 80's were a strange time.
 
2022-10-05 3:48:56 PM  

flamark: I went to an ENT recently for sinus problems. The good news is the problem can be fixed. The bad news is I can't eat or drink and I must sleep standing up. Problem solved. Next?


Sinus surgery is worth it, my friend.  mine naturally was 80% blocked on one side and 50 on the other.  No wonder i was a mouth breather.

it was a week of misery with the splints in my nose, and after they were took out it was another week or so before the swelling went down, and nose was tender for a good 6 months.

but buddy... worth it.
 
2022-10-05 4:02:18 PM  
I watched a co-worker (more accurate to call him a former co-worker) get eaten alive by cancer.  That was certainly fun.  OTOH, he checked three of the boxes in the linked story (smoked, drank, overweight), so you could say he had plenty of fun on his way to a horrifying, agonizing death, the kind of pain that even morphine couldn't mask.

After watching the ignorance on parade during the pandemic, few will pay attention to a story like this one because few care about their health.  We care a LOT about fun, though.  Hoo boy, we care about fun.
 
2022-10-05 6:01:10 PM  
Well I could do none of those things and still die of breast cancer or get hit by a car. We start dying the moment we're born why not have the best time ever while we're here?
(I wear sunscreen because burns suck, I don't usually smoke because I like exercise, I am fat because I love food/ alcohol)
 
2022-10-05 8:12:08 PM  

Colonel_Angus: I watched a co-worker (more accurate to call him a former co-worker) get eaten alive by cancer.  That was certainly fun.  OTOH, he checked three of the boxes in the linked story (smoked, drank, overweight), so you could say he had plenty of fun on his way to a horrifying, agonizing death, the kind of pain that even morphine couldn't mask.

After watching the ignorance on parade during the pandemic, few will pay attention to a story like this one because few care about their health.  We care a LOT about fun, though.  Hoo boy, we care about fun.


I

Worked with a guy who retired a bit before the pandemic.  Asked him how (mainly because i was surprised) that a 63 year old man was still smoking.  He said he couldn't stop, had smoked a half a pack a day for 40+ years.  He took the stairs with me and didn't seem winded.  He worried about cancer but "something takes all of us".  Mind you, we work at a hospital.

I think what keeps people smoking, is the confirmation bias.  Admittedly, There are plenty people who smoke regularly and don't have anything other than shiatty breathing by the time they're 60.  That uncle that lived to 78.   smoking-related cancers, aren't limited to just lungs, but they are rare until you reach the age 60 and up.  You go through life probably thinking "i'm 45, I am going to kick this and the body will heal".  50, 55, and onward rolls along, you're still doing it and it just is what it is.

If you can stop by the time you're 40, and never do it again, you stand almost 100% chance of not getting any smoking related diseases or cancer, though.  So if you're around that age, take it serious now and get off that train.  No one wants emphysema or lung cancer.
 
2022-10-06 9:08:01 AM  

phedex: If you can stop by the time you're 40, and never do it again, you stand almost 100% chance of not getting any smoking related diseases or cancer, though.  So if you're around that age, take it serious now and get off that train.  No one wants emphysema or lung cancer.


Though true, that's still a bit of an oversimplification.  To expand on your example, if you start smoking at 20 and quit at 40, by the time you're 60 your risk of developing the diseases associated with cancer drops almost to the level of someone who never smoked.  The problem is what happens during that intervening 20 years of cessation.  Even after 10 years, by age 50 in this example, your chance of developing lung cancer is half that of someone who's still smoking, but that puts it at significantly higher than a non-smoker.

And we're only talking about probabilities.  Leonard Nimoy quit smoking in 1985, but was claimed by COPD decades later, and spent his latter days confined to a wheelchair, gasping for breath.  He did spend his last years warning about the dangers of smoking, but he still had a pretty horrible death because of it.
 
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