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(Variety)   The extremely dumb shiat Roger Waters has been saying about Russia and the war in Ukraine lately could sink a deal to purchase Pink Floyd's catalog worth upwards of $500 million   (variety.com) divider line
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2022-10-05 12:12:59 AM  
Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.
 
2022-10-05 5:22:09 AM  
The deal is in rubbles?
 
2022-10-05 5:31:26 AM  
On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?
 
2022-10-05 5:32:10 AM  
 
2022-10-05 5:47:33 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


John Lydon and Eric Clapton are both much worse than Morrissey IMHO. But yeah, point well made.
 
2022-10-05 6:00:45 AM  
Man, Russia has really been on a tear investing in Crazy.

It's almost as if they want to normalize insane bullsh*t across the globe so that their own society looks normal. Well, that and muddy the waters so people will be paying less and less attention to what their other hand is doing.
 
2022-10-05 6:01:32 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


Yeah, but they were also all shiats back in their thirties.
 
2022-10-05 6:01:39 AM  
Poor Roger. Living on food stamps and living in a homeless shelter must suck. They had one buyer and he screwed it up.
 
2022-10-05 6:04:30 AM  

Glitchwerks: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/roger-waters-ukrainian-kill-list-1234604081/

"Roger Waters: I'm on a Ukrainian 'Kill List'"


I think he's on a David Gilmour kill list.
 
2022-10-05 6:18:11 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


Oh, come on.  I don't disagree with anything one of those people says.  Roger Waters is wrong about nearly everything though.
 
2022-10-05 6:29:03 AM  

Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?


It's a symptom of treating all politics as a team sport. Waters is on team "America BAD".
 
2022-10-05 6:39:49 AM  

Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?


Well if the claims about Russian war crimes are true then that would mean he was wrong and since he can't be wrong then clearly Russia isn't committing war crimes.

It's all very simple once you ditch the blinkers of western corporate media.
 
2022-10-05 6:46:13 AM  
I interpret what I read as the big players interested in the music catalog are planting stories in the press in an effort to drive down the price. After all, one long out spoken band members views hardly negates the monetary value of an entire song catalog from a band as prominent as Pink Floyd.
 
2022-10-05 6:46:52 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Glitchwerks: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/roger-waters-ukrainian-kill-list-1234604081/

"Roger Waters: I'm on a Ukrainian 'Kill List'"

I think he's on a David Gilmour kill list.


David Gilmour's ignore list more like
 
2022-10-05 6:49:49 AM  

shpritz: Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?

It's a symptom of treating all politics as a team sport. Waters is on team "America BAD".


Where did he get that idea?
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2022-10-05 6:58:44 AM  

My Sober Alt: fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.

Oh, come on.  I don't disagree with anything one of those people says.  Roger Waters is wrong about nearly everything though.


You really haven't been paying attention to what any of those people have said in the last 10 to 20 years, have you? Or are you legitimately some sort of max level racist?
 
2022-10-05 7:08:33 AM  

My Sober Alt: fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.

Oh, come on.  I don't disagree with anything one of those people says.  Roger Waters is wrong about nearly everything though.


Dude farkin Morrisey, really?
 
2022-10-05 7:09:11 AM  

ModernLuddite: My Sober Alt: fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.

Oh, come on.  I don't disagree with anything one of those people says.  Roger Waters is wrong about nearly everything though.

You really haven't been paying attention to what any of those people have said in the last 10 to 20 years, have you? Or are you legitimately some sort of max level racist?


36 in case of Morisey
/Clapton "36? Hold my pick"
 
2022-10-05 7:13:54 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


Oh no, what did John Cleese say or do?
 
2022-10-05 7:22:32 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


JK Rowling.

Let's be inclusive.
 
2022-10-05 7:28:07 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.

Oh no, what did John Cleese say or do?


He went on a rant on Twitter about how London isn't "an English city anymore". Then he doubled and tripled down. And now he mostly does interviews about how cancel culture and "woke" people are ruining everything, and also complaining about all those darn "non-English" people.
 
2022-10-05 7:33:11 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.

Oh no, what did John Cleese say or do?


I have no idea, last I was reading about him, he was annoying me for having gone too far LEFT.   It was an interview where he was talking about how he now feels a lot of his classic Monty Python stuff was insensitive... and I'm like, "It was shock comedy, you idiot, how can you be so good at that yet not understand?"

He was always a bit of an opinionated ass not particularly concerned with being polite, though.  He was pro-Brexit, and is anti-political correctness and believes that what was 'English' has been diluted by immigration.

Those latter two points he's not wrong about, it's a matter of where you feel those sentiments are coming from and where he's going with them.  I'm not going to spend a lot of time researching whether he has become a giant flaming racist or if he's just being misinterpreted by people who got triggered because of the subjects he was talking about.
 
2022-10-05 7:36:08 AM  
In the Flesh (part 2) - The Wall - Pink Floyd
Youtube NBD5KIJLuvM


Now this song makes much more sense.
 
2022-10-05 7:41:04 AM  

padraig: fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.

JK Rowling.

Let's be inclusive.


Well, if you're gonna include the entire UK (Rowling is Scottish), gotta include Ian Watkins. As horrible as those 5 are, Watkins is MUCH MUCH worse.
 
2022-10-05 7:43:09 AM  
Abe Vigoda's Ghost:

Gilmore may be self righteous twat.

But he's not sucking on a fetid pile of Putin's shiat after a caviar and vodka bender and comparing it to a 5 star meal.
 
2022-10-05 7:43:33 AM  

Unsung_Hero: is anti-political correctness and believes that what was 'English' has been diluted by immigration.

Those latter two points he's not wrong about, it's a matter of where you feel those sentiments are coming from and where he's going with them.


You're kidding, right?

What made England "great"? The empire, that's what. A full third of the Earth's land mass was once part of the British Empire. That's where they got their wealth and built their nation.

Now in recent decades the Empire's come home to England. It's what happens when you spend years living under colonialism being told the reason you're living under the rule of foreigners is they're from the best country so that's how it's going to be. Eventually some colonials think "well I'll go there, then".

English people have no right at all to whinge about folks from their former colonies moving there. They profitted very handsomely building this situation and any of them whinging about it now is just a white supremacist coont. Give all the wealth Britain stole from those countries back, compensate the families of people they slaughtered, then maybe I'll allow them an opinion but until then those racists can just fark right off.
 
2022-10-05 7:44:08 AM  

hubiestubert: muddy the waters


Pun intended, or happy little accident?
 
2022-10-05 7:54:28 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Well, if you're gonna include the entire UK (Rowling is Scottish), gotta include Ian Watkins. As horrible as those 5 are, Watkins is MUCH MUCH worse.


The list is about people who have crappy right wing opinions.

Ian Watkins is a pedophile.
 
2022-10-05 7:54:42 AM  
Waters proved he was a hack when he wanted to put unused tracks from The Wall on The Final Cut, which was an album none of the other band members wanted to make.
 
2022-10-05 8:02:16 AM  

Jake Havechek: [YouTube video: In the Flesh (part 2) - The Wall - Pink Floyd]

Now this song makes much more sense.


Roger's traumatized by his father's death and his overbearing mother.

I don't know if you knew that.

/After 70 years of screaming you'd think he'd invest in therapy rather than continuing to scream and be miserable but maybe being an angry asshole works for him.

//Brit Floyd puts on a helluva show.
 
2022-10-05 8:17:18 AM  

Irving Maimway: Jake Havechek: [YouTube video: In the Flesh (part 2) - The Wall - Pink Floyd]

Now this song makes much more sense.

Roger's traumatized by his father's death and his overbearing mother.

I don't know if you knew that.

/After 70 years of screaming you'd think he'd invest in therapy rather than continuing to scream and be miserable but maybe being an angry asshole works for him.

//Brit Floyd puts on a helluva show.


He and Bruce Wayne should start a support group.

I think Waters is just mad that Pink Floyd (without him) put out a single supporting  Ukraine. If there is one thing Roger Waters stands for, it's whatever is the opposite of David Gilmour.
 
2022-10-05 8:18:52 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


At least Clarkson and Cleese are entertaining.
 
2022-10-05 8:23:03 AM  
...the former Pink Floyd singer argues emphatically that some Jewish people in the U.S. and U.K. bear responsibility for the actions of Israel "because they pay for everything"; that well-documented accounts of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are "lies, lies, lies"; that the United States is "the most evil [country in the world] of all by a factor of at least 10 times"; that Russia's brutal military involvement in Syria is justified because "they were there at the invitation of the Syrian government" (which is led by one of the world's most murderous dictators, Bashar Assad), and more...

So he not only has a Fark handle, but at least one alt. And I'd bet I've made fun of both of them.
 
2022-10-05 8:24:04 AM  

johnryan51: shpritz: Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?

It's a symptom of treating all politics as a team sport. Waters is on team "America BAD".

Where did he get that idea?
[Fark user image image 425x470]


The problem is that he assumes that since America is bad, anyone who opposes America must be good. It's the old mistake of some leftists.
 
2022-10-05 8:37:31 AM  

ModernLuddite: Barricaded Gunman: fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.

Oh no, what did John Cleese say or do?

He went on a rant on Twitter about how London isn't "an English city anymore". Then he doubled and tripled down. And now he mostly does interviews about how cancel culture and "woke" people are ruining everything, and also complaining about all those darn "non-English" people.


That's a shame. I never saw him as a racist shiat bag.
 
2022-10-05 8:46:05 AM  

Confabulat: Irving Maimway: Jake Havechek: [YouTube video: In the Flesh (part 2) - The Wall - Pink Floyd]

Now this song makes much more sense.

Roger's traumatized by his father's death and his overbearing mother.

I don't know if you knew that.

/After 70 years of screaming you'd think he'd invest in therapy rather than continuing to scream and be miserable but maybe being an angry asshole works for him.

//Brit Floyd puts on a helluva show.

He and Bruce Wayne should start a support group.

I think Waters is just mad that Pink Floyd (without him) put out a single supporting  Ukraine. If there is one thing Roger Waters stands for, it's whatever is the opposite of David Gilmour.


Waters is anti-war to the point of obsession, and that can cloud one's judgement.  For example, war is a tool of the powerful, and there's no one more powerful than the US.  That alone bugs British people of a certain age, but when truly bad people like Putin blame the problems they themselves cause on the US, people like waters fall in line behind the wrong side.

Just because a person is talented and successful doesn't mean they can't be as flawed as anyone else.
 
2022-10-05 8:51:32 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: johnryan51: shpritz: Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?

It's a symptom of treating all politics as a team sport. Waters is on team "America BAD".

Where did he get that idea?
[Fark user image image 425x470]

The problem is that he assumes that since America is bad, anyone who opposes America must be good. It's the old mistake of some leftists.


Likewise, those who think America is anointed by god think it can do no wrong. It's the old mistake of right wing types
 
2022-10-05 8:59:27 AM  
FTA: with classic albums like "Dark Side of the Moon," "The Wall," "Wish You Were Here," "Animals," "Meddle," "Piper at the Gates of Dawn," "More"

Tell me you know nothing about Pink Floyd and only looked at Wikipedia, without blah blah blah.

More???

Really??
 
2022-10-05 8:59:28 AM  

Great_Milenko: Tyrone Slothrop: johnryan51: shpritz: Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?

It's a symptom of treating all politics as a team sport. Waters is on team "America BAD".

Where did he get that idea?
[Fark user image image 425x470]

The problem is that he assumes that since America is bad, anyone who opposes America must be good. It's the old mistake of some leftists.

Likewise, those who think America is anointed by god think it can do no wrong. It's the old mistake of right wing types


It's almost like extremists have critical blind spots in their reasoning no matter what brand of politics they subscribe to. Binary "good/bad" thinking always leads to trouble, because the real world is far more nuanced than that.
 
2022-10-05 9:05:44 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: johnryan51: shpritz: Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?

It's a symptom of treating all politics as a team sport. Waters is on team "America BAD".

Where did he get that idea?
[Fark user image image 425x470]

The problem is that he assumes that since America is bad, anyone who opposes America must be good. It's the old mistake of some leftists.


The irony is that Putin, as far as I can understand it anyway (maybe I'm wrong), invaded Ukraine to cause big disruption around the world. Any land or other economic assets he can grab are a bonus. His big thing is international disruption as a means of avoiding Russia sliding further behind. Russia can't move forward, it lacks the skilled workers and infrastructure, but it can slow down everyone else eg with antivaxx propaganda during a time of global pandemic or creating fights between Europe and the US over energy supply etc.

The reason Putin felt had to do that was because Biden was now in the White House and not tossing Putin's salad like Trump used to. You want global disruption? You put Trump in the White House.

Waters looking at this situation and saying "US bad, Russia good" seems possible, even likely, the way you describe it, sure, but it's an incredibly stupid and short-sighted assessment of recent geopolitics.
 
2022-10-05 9:11:51 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


British people are assholes.


But, I am only basing that on hundreds of years of precedent.
 
2022-10-05 9:27:50 AM  

fatassbastard: Roger Waters
Jeremy Clarkson
John Cleese
Morrissey

Old British white guys sure are assholes.


"John Cleese"?!  I must be out of the loop. What'd he do/say?
 
2022-10-05 9:50:12 AM  

Jake Havechek: [YouTube video: In the Flesh (part 2) - The Wall - Pink Floyd]

Now this song makes much more sense.


Because you know, only Nazis bring up the fact that Israel is a genocidal right wing theocracy

Yet strangely I don't see American Jews giving up their homes to the Native Americans that inhabited these lands... it's theirs, right?

We'd be living in Star Trek times if not for the three Abrahamic religions.
 
2022-10-05 9:54:20 AM  

The Brains: Jake Havechek: [YouTube video: In the Flesh (part 2) - The Wall - Pink Floyd]

Now this song makes much more sense.

Because you know, only Nazis bring up the fact that Israel is a genocidal right wing theocracy

Yet strangely I don't see American Jews giving up their homes to the Native Americans that inhabited these lands... it's theirs, right?

We'd be living in Star Trek times if not for the three Abrahamic religions.


I'm just saying Waters sucks for supporting Russia, and he's mentally farked in the head.  I don't know where you get the Jewish stuff from.  Perhaps you're mentally deficient?
 
2022-10-05 10:08:29 AM  

The Brains: We'd be living in Star Trek times if not for the three Abrahamic religions.


Religions are simply another justification we've invented to rationalize doing things we were going to do anyway. Ultimately, almost every problem in every society is the result of people being people.
 
2022-10-05 10:20:37 AM  

EdgeRunner: The Brains: We'd be living in Star Trek times if not for the three Abrahamic religions.

Religions are simply another justification we've invented to rationalize doing things we were going to do anyway. Ultimately, almost every problem in every society is the result of people being people.


Exactly, Japan doesn't  have much in the way of Abrahamic religions and it isn't in Star Trek times.  Unless I missed the episode about Bones watching pixelated porn.
 
2022-10-05 10:21:16 AM  

Aussie_As: Unsung_Hero: is anti-political correctness and believes that what was 'English' has been diluted by immigration.

Those latter two points he's not wrong about, it's a matter of where you feel those sentiments are coming from and where he's going with them.

You're kidding, right?

What made England "great"? The empire, that's what. A full third of the Earth's land mass was once part of the British Empire. That's where they got their wealth and built their nation.

Now in recent decades the Empire's come home to England. It's what happens when you spend years living under colonialism being told the reason you're living under the rule of foreigners is they're from the best country so that's how it's going to be. Eventually some colonials think "well I'll go there, then".

English people have no right at all to whinge about folks from their former colonies moving there. They profitted very handsomely building this situation and any of them whinging about it now is just a white supremacist coont. Give all the wealth Britain stole from those countries back, compensate the families of people they slaughtered, then maybe I'll allow them an opinion but until then those racists can just fark right off.


Regardless, it remains true that the culture has shifted.  The reasons why and whether you resent it or not are separate issues.
 
2022-10-05 10:41:08 AM  
You either die a hero, or live to become the warmongering imperialist and fascist you sang against in the 70s, I guess.
 
2022-10-05 10:59:45 AM  

Great_Milenko: Tyrone Slothrop: johnryan51: shpritz: Nogale: On what is he basing his claims that the accusations of Russian war crimes in Ukraine are false? Other than Russian propaganda?

It's a symptom of treating all politics as a team sport. Waters is on team "America BAD".

Where did he get that idea?
[Fark user image image 425x470]

The problem is that he assumes that since America is bad, anyone who opposes America must be good. It's the old mistake of some leftists.

Likewise, those who think America is anointed by god think it can do no wrong. It's the old mistake of right wing types


Yep. And at least at the moment the latter is far more dangerous than the former.
 
2022-10-05 11:17:18 AM  
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