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1030 clicks; posted to STEM » on 04 Oct 2022 at 5:30 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-04 3:46:52 PM  
Cool. Can't wait for the first massive cross platform security failure.
 
2022-10-04 4:33:31 PM  
So I don't need a separate bridge for every smart device I have now?  😎
 
2022-10-04 4:59:10 PM  

BunkyBrewman: So I don't need a separate bridge for every smart device I have now?  😎


That would be nice.

Not having to sign up for a new user account for every single device manufacturer would also be a great feature.

I went zigbee/zwave in my house because of that.  1 account for my SmartThings and everything works, and if I lose internet, Voice control and app notifications stop working, but all the routines still chug along like they are supposed to.  If SmartThings ends up getting shuttered, I can just set up a Home Assistant instead.

If Matter can match that, it will be a welcome evolution.
 
2022-10-04 5:34:48 PM  
^f...  zig  <no_matches>  ok... zw <no_matches>

So no, not a unifying standard at all.  Que xkcd competing standards...
 
2022-10-04 5:41:57 PM  
These seem like a really bad idea.

I'm not alone in thinking that, am I?
 
2022-10-04 5:52:22 PM  
My Echos control my Wemo switches and outlets better then the Wemo app.

Wemo, fix your farkING App
 
2022-10-04 5:57:08 PM  
My home may be dumb, but at least when I'm alone I'm still the smartest person in the room.
 
2022-10-04 6:12:21 PM  
The specific example is rarely actuality reality.
like this:

The first Matter-enabled connected gadget is just around the corner. It's merely awaiting approval.
or
maybe bigger picture reality is:

The first Matter-enabled connected Another IoT gadget is just around the corner. It's merely awaiting approval.
 
2022-10-04 6:12:40 PM  

Driedsponge: BunkyBrewman: So I don't need a separate bridge for every smart device I have now?  😎

That would be nice.

Not having to sign up for a new user account for every single device manufacturer would also be a great feature.

I went zigbee/zwave in my house because of that.  1 account for my SmartThings and everything works, and if I lose internet, Voice control and app notifications stop working, but all the routines still chug along like they are supposed to.  If SmartThings ends up getting shuttered, I can just set up a Home Assistant instead.

If Matter can match that, it will be a welcome evolution.


I love Home Assistant, and the biggest two things I love about it are:
1. I love that it allows me to have ONE controller for everything (my HA server) so everything can work together, regardless of manufacturer and
2. It's all local control

Controls/reads my lights, bathroom fans, HVAC, and all my various sensors. Totally love it.

Matter sounds neat, but won't really matter to me much. It'll just be one more standard my server uses to coordinate all my smart home stuff.
 
2022-10-04 6:12:41 PM  
The whole point of I.o.T. is to make collecting data about you even easier for Big Data than it already is. Now they'll know how long you leave your lights on, how long you stand in front of the fridge with the door open, etc. In return, you get devices that are vulnerable to cyberattacks. And some crap about seeing what exact temperature your fridge is from an app on your phone, because that appeals to some people for what can only be described as "for some reason".

Fark I.o.T.
Fark it right the hell off.
 
2022-10-04 6:19:23 PM  

Madeup Farkname: The whole point of I.o.T. is to make collecting data about you even easier for Big Data than it already is. Now they'll know how long you leave your lights on, how long you stand in front of the fridge with the door open, etc. In return, you get devices that are vulnerable to cyberattacks. And some crap about seeing what exact temperature your fridge is from an app on your phone, because that appeals to some people for what can only be described as "for some reason".

Fark I.o.T.
Fark it right the hell off.


Not necessarily, no. My IOT stuff is all controlled locally, through my Home Assistant server - which is in my home, running on my own hardware. No internet is no problem, it all runs over the WLAN or via Zigbee or Bluetooth protocol - don't even use the manufacturers' hubs for anything, Home Assistant picks them up instead and that's not phoning anybody but me.
 
2022-10-04 7:25:10 PM  
Do I have to yell across the room to a speaker in order to operate anything? Will it stay working longer than 2 years before I have to replace all the hardware because the software is no longer supported on existing hardware?
 
2022-10-04 7:30:38 PM  

mongbiohazard: Madeup Farkname: The whole point of I.o.T. is to make collecting data about you even easier for Big Data than it already is. Now they'll know how long you leave your lights on, how long you stand in front of the fridge with the door open, etc. In return, you get devices that are vulnerable to cyberattacks. And some crap about seeing what exact temperature your fridge is from an app on your phone, because that appeals to some people for what can only be described as "for some reason".

Fark I.o.T.
Fark it right the hell off.

Not necessarily, no. My IOT stuff is all controlled locally, through my Home Assistant server - which is in my home, running on my own hardware. No internet is no problem, it all runs over the WLAN or via Zigbee or Bluetooth protocol - don't even use the manufacturers' hubs for anything, Home Assistant picks them up instead and that's not phoning anybody but me.


if your devices don't connect to the internet, can you use IOT to describe them?
 
2022-10-04 7:36:49 PM  

petec: mongbiohazard: Madeup Farkname: The whole point of I.o.T. is to make collecting data about you even easier for Big Data than it already is. Now they'll know how long you leave your lights on, how long you stand in front of the fridge with the door open, etc. In return, you get devices that are vulnerable to cyberattacks. And some crap about seeing what exact temperature your fridge is from an app on your phone, because that appeals to some people for what can only be described as "for some reason".

Fark I.o.T.
Fark it right the hell off.

Not necessarily, no. My IOT stuff is all controlled locally, through my Home Assistant server - which is in my home, running on my own hardware. No internet is no problem, it all runs over the WLAN or via Zigbee or Bluetooth protocol - don't even use the manufacturers' hubs for anything, Home Assistant picks them up instead and that's not phoning anybody but me.

if your devices don't connect to the internet, can you use IOT to describe them?


NOT?

Network Of Things!
 
2022-10-04 8:21:26 PM  
Hoping for The Clapper standard...
 
2022-10-04 8:27:59 PM  
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2022-10-04 8:42:03 PM  

mongbiohazard: petec: mongbiohazard: Madeup Farkname: The whole point of I.o.T. is to make collecting data about you even easier for Big Data than it already is. Now they'll know how long you leave your lights on, how long you stand in front of the fridge with the door open, etc. In return, you get devices that are vulnerable to cyberattacks. And some crap about seeing what exact temperature your fridge is from an app on your phone, because that appeals to some people for what can only be described as "for some reason".

Fark I.o.T.
Fark it right the hell off.

Not necessarily, no. My IOT stuff is all controlled locally, through my Home Assistant server - which is in my home, running on my own hardware. No internet is no problem, it all runs over the WLAN or via Zigbee or Bluetooth protocol - don't even use the manufacturers' hubs for anything, Home Assistant picks them up instead and that's not phoning anybody but me.

if your devices don't connect to the internet, can you use IOT to describe them?

NOT?

Network Of Things!


ok, that works ...

when i had my house built in 2001, i wired it all up with multiple drops per room of cat5e, RG6, audio, and  even had a neutral run to evey 120v switch and receptacle because x10 was the most viable solution at the time

/running homeseer
//most of the switches have been upgraded to zwave, but closet lighting is still x10 motion sensors and switches
///x10 outlets still run my xmas lights, nothing fancy, just on/off
 
2022-10-04 9:34:35 PM  
I'll hold out for the opensource implementation. Until the X.10 will do.
 
2022-10-04 10:33:30 PM  

Obscene_CNN: I'll hold out for the opensource implementation. Until the X.10 will do.


Matter is a royalty free standard, freely available upon request, and the dev kit is open source  under the Apache license.  As for implementation, Home Assistant has Matter support already.

I think all the players finally realized that if they didn't come together and create something everyone could use, then consumers would quickly decide no one would use it.  Matter is the first standard in a long time (since zigbee/zwave) that you can fully implement without requiring you to give away all your data.
 
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