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2022-10-04 8:00:48 PM  
Alex, What are two graphics cards I will never own?
 
2022-10-04 8:02:35 PM  

listernine: Alex, What are two graphics cards I will never own?


Graphics cards?

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2022-10-04 8:02:41 PM  

listernine: Alex, What are two graphics cards I will never own?


Sorry, that's wrong.
 
2022-10-04 8:11:27 PM  
Why are we comparing two different generations of processor?
 
2022-10-04 8:34:59 PM  

listernine: Alex, What are two graphics cards I will never own?


True. No one will ever own these two graphics cards.
 
2022-10-04 8:35:11 PM  
DeathByGeekSquad: Why are we comparing two different generations of processor?

looking at effective cost/value ratios.
they show what the off set in power is, and compare that to the off set in price.

and for lots of use situations this data would give us the ability to make more value based choices, instead of just assuming to buy "the most power." because the way CPU power works is, you might be paying for a lot of power, but never really making any use of it.

For example if up time on a system is really for gaming, and little else. then the cost/value the game will get looks to be way better on a 7700x or 7600x, when we notice those chips run just a few FPS under a 7900x or 7950x, while costing a fair bit less.

some might prefer to cope wiht the lowly 150-160 FPS of a 7700x , keep that extra money in our pockets or put it into other parts of the PC, instead of pay out to get 160-170 FPS(sometimes less).

and also generally speaking on this specific idea"two different generations of processor"when it comes to the two most current gens of CPUs, they are often negligibly different for a whole lot of users.Anyone upgrading from several/many generations ago, like say an intel 7xxx series. for them the current last gen might be a negligible use difference and so the cost of the last gen could easily be a better value for them.Like this idea:if we know full well we'll never drive faster than 70  mph, we waste a lot of monye paying for an engine that can do 180.this kind of cost/power analysis shows us the real cost/value of the power we buy, and that data may show us, buying last year's hardware is a way better value for us.
 
2022-10-04 9:05:10 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Why are we comparing two different generations of processor?


Intel's 13th gen doesn't release till later this month but no review channel is going to delay reviewing the latest AMD stuff just so they have a direct comparison right now. They'll just put out more info when it's available.
 
2022-10-04 9:09:26 PM  
You need a 3000W power supply and 47 fans to run a machine with modern horsebeast CPUs and GPUs.
 
2022-10-04 9:51:34 PM  
Who gives a shiat about any of this dogshiat anymore. Computers are way faster than they need to be for anything any of you worthless cocksuckers do anyway.
F**k all of you to death for even pretending this matters.
 
2022-10-04 10:47:46 PM  

jso2897: Who gives a shiat about any of this dogshiat anymore


I fondly recall the days when I cared. CPUs were rapidly improving, and it improved performance tremendously. I remember being excited that my new CPU could rip audio CDs at a tolerable rate. And later upgrading to a machined that could rip video. Woo hoo!

Today I regularly use PCs with CPUs from 2011, 2014 and 2019. For my purposes (not a gamer) they are indistinguishable. I have one SQL Server database with 20 million entries on the 2011 laptop and searching it takes a fraction of a second.
 
2022-10-05 5:59:13 AM  

jso2897: Who gives a shiat about any of this dogshiat anymore. Computers are way faster than they need to be for anything any of you worthless cocksuckers do anyway.
F**k all of you to death for even pretending this matters.


If you do video rendering, it matters.
Minutes add up.

For most gamers, the extra frame rates are not going to be noticed.

For browsing Fark, you could do it on a potato.
 
2022-10-05 11:57:38 PM  
Are you going to upgrade to an NVME drive or graphics card that supports PCI-E Gen 5 before you replace your next motherboard? If the answer is yes or maybe go with the 7900X to get the full benefit of that upgrade. If you buy a 12th generation part from Chipzilla you will be on a dead end platform that has no headroom for those upgrade paths.
 
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