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2022-10-04 8:58:06 AM  
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Bye bye, baby Bowler.
 
2022-10-04 9:01:33 AM  
Ummm... they've been doing this for a long time.
 
2022-10-04 9:01:34 AM  
Fark Goodwill.
 
2022-10-04 9:08:54 AM  
Goodwill can FOAD.  Hey let's make a for profit version of Salvation army and somehow make it even shiattier by hiring disabled people for slave wages.
 
2022-10-04 9:16:43 AM  
What cave have you been living in?
 
2022-10-04 9:20:57 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Fark Goodwill.


Show me on the doll where Goodwill touched you.
 
2022-10-04 9:23:01 AM  
I'm aware.  I just bought a DVD from Goodwill thru eBay last year.  I was feeling nostalgic and looking for the first skate tape I ever purchased in the late 90's as a kid.  I had to settle for the DVD version but it came with another video I also had so I was happy to spend the $40 bucks for it.

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2022-10-04 9:24:52 AM  
They realized a majority of their customers are just buying their cheap shiat for resale purposes and decided to cut out the middleman.  Or middlewoman.

/ knows a lady with a full time ebay business, in the sense it takes her 40+ hours a week to manage sales, she buys stuff from goodwill, craigslist, and other thrift stores and resells it.
// I tried it once and couldn't resell a damn thing and gave up.
 
2022-10-04 9:30:25 AM  

jiggitysmith: Goodwill can FOAD.  Hey let's make a for profit version of Salvation army and somehow make it even shiattier by hiring disabled people for slave wages.


It's funny, in St. Louis there used to be a Goodwill right down the street from a Salvation Army, and a St. Vincent De Paul thrift shop.  The stuff in the Goodwill was absolute garbage compared to the other two and usually cost more.
 
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2022-10-04 9:31:02 AM  
This is why you haven't been able to find anything worthwhile in a Goodwill for about the past decade.
 
2022-10-04 9:34:26 AM  

Earthworm Jim Jones: I'm aware.  I just bought a DVD from Goodwill thru eBay last year.  I was feeling nostalgic and looking for the first skate tape I ever purchased in the late 90's as a kid.  I had to settle for the DVD version but it came with another video I also had so I was happy to spend the $40 bucks for it.

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My man, get on youtube and look up the channel VHS Skate... tube, or something like that.  Whoever maintains that channel has tons of 90's skate tapes.
 
2022-10-04 9:37:32 AM  

electricjebus: jiggitysmith: Goodwill can FOAD.  Hey let's make a for profit version of Salvation army and somehow make it even shiattier by hiring disabled people for slave wages.

It's funny, in St. Louis there used to be a Goodwill right down the street from a Salvation Army, and a St. Vincent De Paul thrift shop.  The stuff in the Goodwill was absolute garbage compared to the other two and usually cost more.


I was just discussing that with the GF.  Goodwill wasn't always like that, but they are now.

That's ok if that is their new business model, and anyone that has shopped there in the past 20 years is quite aware of it, but you're right, if i want to donate stuff to a charity its going to St. Vincent.

If i want to get rid of junk it's Goodwill.  Let their "pickers" earn their premium.
 
2022-10-04 9:38:12 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Fark Goodwill.


This
 
2022-10-04 9:39:09 AM  

TheCableGuy: They realized a majority of their customers are just buying their cheap shiat for resale purposes and decided to cut out the middleman.  Or middlewoman.

/ knows a lady with a full time ebay business, in the sense it takes her 40+ hours a week to manage sales, she buys stuff from goodwill, craigslist, and other thrift stores and resells it.
// I tried it once and couldn't resell a damn thing and gave up.


I don't know which 'goodwill' you or your friend shops.
But Good Will around here is mostly right up to walmart prices...or inches up to 'new' prices for nice furniture that's 'showroom' mostly cat scratch free.
Even their shirts and pants....used are like 7-8 dollars for decent ones without holes.
And nothing better than you could get at a walmart, or target. Well, bonus lice maybe.
 
2022-10-04 9:40:15 AM  

rosekolodny: What cave have you been living in?


His mom's basement - subby calls it his "man cave".
 
2022-10-04 9:40:20 AM  
There are loads of good places to donate your stuff.   Goodwill is near the bottom of the list.   AmVets is near the top.    The best I have found yet is the guy who drives around the neighborhood the afternoon before trash pickup.
 
2022-10-04 9:44:05 AM  
If nothing else, the "Computers & Electronics" section is glorious. I'm staring at a Apple Mac Plus 1MB for sixty bucks.
 
2022-10-04 9:44:46 AM  
Let's play a game, website. It's called "How many times am I going to have to refresh before your javascript  realizes I'm not going to click an ad and gives me the option to continue without disabling?"
 
2022-10-04 9:44:55 AM  

TheCableGuy: They realized a majority of their customers are just buying their cheap shiat for resale purposes and decided to cut out the middleman.  Or middlewoman.

/ knows a lady with a full time ebay business, in the sense it takes her 40+ hours a week to manage sales, she buys stuff from goodwill, craigslist, and other thrift stores and resells it.
// I tried it once and couldn't resell a damn thing and gave up.


That's one of those things where you really have to know the market.  Way before E-bay for profit thrift stores and resale shops were going to these places and picking the best merchandise.  They'd also go to yard sales and flea markets... You have to know what people are willing to pay for used stuff.

When it comes to vintage clothing, dishware, furniture etc... you have to know what's still in style and what's making a comeback.  There's some stuff people just don't buy used for one reason or another.

A few years ago my mom bought a set of 8 Waterford Lismore champagne flutes for like 10 bucks at an estate sale.  None of the pro's wanted them for the same reason nobody else did.  The younger people aren't really into them, and the older people that want them probably already have them.
 
2022-10-04 9:45:38 AM  
Anything that looks like it has actual value goes up for auction. Clothes and junk get put in the stores.
CEO isn't going to get multi million dollar bonuses unless you slaves give away the good stuff and he flips it for Top Dollar.
 
2022-10-04 9:45:54 AM  

jiggitysmith: Goodwill can FOAD.  Hey let's make a for profit version of Salvation army and somehow make it even shiattier by hiring disabled people for slave wages.


Not all of them.

one thing everyone have to remember is even though The Goodwill Industries International Inc is the top they don't do crap with the stores.  90% of the stores round the country are franchise out in groups. and each ground is independent of each other for how they are run.  I know this cause I work at one.  While some franchise do use the laws that say they can hire disabled people at a lower rate then the standard min wage.  The ones I work for don't shot I am not disabled and i got disabled people making more then me cause they been there longer then I have.
 
2022-10-04 9:45:58 AM  

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Bye bye, baby Bowler.


well, that was quick
 
2022-10-04 9:47:07 AM  
Seriously, it's an exquisite hell of obsolescent cast-offs and untested hardware. I'd be better off rummaging through the raw intake at a RE-PC than I would here.
 
2022-10-04 9:47:43 AM  

ImmutableTenderloin: kittyhas1000legs: Fark Goodwill.

Show me on the doll where Goodwill touched you.



You had but to ask, oh uninformed one.


1. Less than one-eighth of the company's profit goes toward its charity work. Most store profits are being consumed by administrative overhead, which includes much of the pay to its top leaders.

2. Your donated items get shipped out to neo-imperialist buyers that threaten developing industry in third world countries.  If Goodwill can't sell your clothes, it ships them to sell to third world countries overseas - a practice that is widely documented as harming industry in developing nations by importing cheaply priced goods.

3. Goodwill has actively fought against legislative proposals to raise the minimum wage. Despite bringing in over $3.8 billion in revenue, the nonprofit argues that it can't afford to pay its employees.

4. Goodwill seized on an archaic 1938 law to justify paying workers as little as 22 cents an hour. Under Section 14 (c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act, an outdated law that Autistic Self Advocacy Network president Ari Ne'eman calls a "vestige of the past," over 7,300 workers in 14 states are paid less than 23 cents an hour. According to Pennsylvania records from 2009, some Goodwill workers earned as little as 22, 38, and 41 cents an hour.

5. Many people with disabilities have actually died from injuries borne of Goodwill's unsafe workplace safety practices.
As disabled employees are not protected by the same laws as their able-bodied coworkers, Goodwill relegates certain dangerous tasks to disabled workers. Several employees have died performing these tasks.
Despite failing to provide up-to-date equipment, safety training, and any kind of company oversight policy, the nonprofit maintains that it is not responsible for the employees killed performing these on-the-job tasks, blaming "employee negligence" instead.

6. Employees that criticize Goodwill's practices end up getting fired, threatened, and publicly defamed by the company.

7. Employees are subject to strict, unrealistic performance quotas, and their wages are docked if they're not fast enough.  If workers don't hang 100 items of clothing in 32 minutes, their pay gets docked- pay that is already far below the minimum wage. This punishes people with disabilities, and creates an easy means of leverage for the company to continue reducing these workers' pay.


More details here:

https://aliceminium.medium.com/the-dark-reality-behind-americas-greatest-thrift-store-empire-183967087a1e#:~:text=If%20Goodwill%20can't%20sell,they%20go%20to%20a%20landfill.

https://socialistworker.org/2017/09/25/why-goodwill-goes-bad

https://www.okaybliss.com/is-goodwill-for-profit/

Goodwill's Charity Racket: CEOs Earn Top-Dollar, Workers Paid Less Than Minimum Wage

Some Disabled Goodwill Workers Earn As Little As 22 Cents An Hour As Execs Earn Six Figures

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2022-10-04 9:48:37 AM  
Their 20-40 lb boxes of mixed legos were great. The mini-figs groups always went way high but with the boxes you could usually figure out some of the sets from half built pieces and target the ones you wanted.

Save tons of money buying them for my girls that way.
 
2022-10-04 9:48:59 AM  

db2: This is why you haven't been able to find anything worthwhile in a Goodwill for about the past decade.


You don't need 500 more drinking glasses?
 
2022-10-04 9:49:05 AM  
Pawnshops had cool, random stuff before eBay and Craigslist. Now all the nifty thrift finds are out for auction, and the only stuff getting to the stores is broken in some unfixable way.
 
2022-10-04 9:51:38 AM  
So that's what happened to her ball:
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2022-10-04 9:52:15 AM  

db2: This is why you haven't been able to find anything worthwhile in a Goodwill for about the past decade.


I used to do great at digging through the record bins there.  Then two problems started happening:
- The local record store started going through it as well and taking everything worthwhile, leaving only Anne Murray and Conway Twitty albums, plus a handful of good albums in terrible condition
- Goodwill actually started raising prices on albums to the point where they were the same price as used albums at the record store, but were much more often damaged to the point of unplayable.
 
2022-10-04 9:52:47 AM  
Damn, images blocked at work so I had to check it on my iPad and saw someone had beat me to it.
 
2022-10-04 9:54:02 AM  
We go to the Goodwill bins up in Portland on occasion. Some times my wife finds clothes with the tags still on them.  There's one in Salem, but it's sad.
 
2022-10-04 9:56:06 AM  

1funguy: electricjebus: jiggitysmith: Goodwill can FOAD.  Hey let's make a for profit version of Salvation army and somehow make it even shiattier by hiring disabled people for slave wages.

It's funny, in St. Louis there used to be a Goodwill right down the street from a Salvation Army, and a St. Vincent De Paul thrift shop.  The stuff in the Goodwill was absolute garbage compared to the other two and usually cost more.

I was just discussing that with the GF.  Goodwill wasn't always like that, but they are now.

That's ok if that is their new business model, and anyone that has shopped there in the past 20 years is quite aware of it, but you're right, if i want to donate stuff to a charity its going to St. Vincent.

If i want to get rid of junk it's Goodwill.  Let their "pickers" earn their premium.


Part of the reason that I love Fark is that it's one of the few places on the internet where I occasionally get to say "I'm only 38".  I've been to a better Goodwill in a small town that didn't have any other options, but still, the clothes didn't even smell like they had been properly cleaned.  I ended up with a bed bug issue once because a roommate bought a mattress from one etc...

I've got clothes from SVDP and Salvation Army that are 20 years old still hanging in my closet.
 
2022-10-04 9:57:03 AM  
My last large encounter with Goodwill was a cross country move where we were really trying to lighten the load.  Unloading an antique to donate, they paged someone to the loading dock.

Got an ear full of Sotheby's.  They knew it was a genuine antique, where it was made, value, style, etc, and did I really want to donate it.  Yes.   I knew they understood the value and would sell it at a market price.

Before COVID, it's a good place to shop for lots of high end stuff.   Not every Goodwill has this kind of special section, so there's the web.
 
2022-10-04 9:57:33 AM  
Okay, I want that skull bowling ball but not $130 want...

I see some Magic cards sold by the pound. I know just enough about that to know that they're way overpriced for what is very likely all or almost all junk cards.

TheCableGuy: They realized a majority of their customers are just buying their cheap shiat for resale purposes and decided to cut out the middleman.  Or middlewoman.

/ knows a lady with a full time ebay business, in the sense it takes her 40+ hours a week to manage sales, she buys stuff from goodwill, craigslist, and other thrift stores and resells it.
// I tried it once and couldn't resell a damn thing and gave up.


It's a lot of work. I keep meaning to sell some old stuff I have in the basement that has some value as collectibles. Problem is it's not enough value to motivate me to take pictures, write up descriptions, look up pricing, post everything, track what sells and what needs re-listed, package stuff up and take it to the post office as it sells so people get it in a timely manner because people are not willing to wait long on that with how fast businesses ship, etc. It's a pain in the ass, so in the basement shiat sits.
 
2022-10-04 9:57:41 AM  

wildcardjack: Pawnshops had cool, random stuff before eBay and Craigslist. Now all the nifty thrift finds are out for auction, and the only stuff getting to the stores is broken in some unfixable way.


The greatest is still the giant flea markets if you have one anywhere nearby.  I haven't been to one in ages, but they are they best when it comes to an absolutely random selection of items and you're guaranteed to find several things you never knew you wanted, but you suddenly need to buy.
 
2022-10-04 9:58:56 AM  
I have countless Goodwills in my town. I can think of 5 right off the top of my head and I've never set foot into one of them and have no plans to.

I go to the Restore place every once in a while and I love going to Estate Sales.
 
2022-10-04 9:59:17 AM  
I just picked up a Weber Smokey Joe grill for $6.50 on Saturday at Goodwill, so I'm getting a kick....

/I don't buy clothes there because it all looks like garbage
//have never seen any disable types working at the one I go to on occasion
///don't really care what anybody thinks of the store/company, nobody's forcing anybody to shop there
 
2022-10-04 10:01:16 AM  
This has been going on for years often by smart employees. Anything worth it went directly online or thier personal eBay accounts. Great way to supplement shiat wages
 
2022-10-04 10:01:23 AM  

patrick767: It's a lot of work. I keep meaning to sell some old stuff I have in the basement that has some value as collectibles. Problem is it's not enough value to motivate me to take pictures, write up descriptions, look up pricing, post everything, track what sells and what needs re-listed, package stuff up and take it to the post office as it sells so people get it in a timely manner because people are not willing to wait long on that with how fast businesses ship, etc. It's a pain in the ass, so in the basement shiat sits.


It can also be really tough to actually make a profit, depending on what you're selling.  I went through a big cleanout of stuff before a move last year and sold a ton on eBay.  After eBay fees, PayPal fees, and shipping cost, I was lucky to do better than breaking even on a number of things.  The problem is some sellers manage to sell things at insanely low prices that I can't understand how they come out ahead at all.  Then there's the risk of the buyer claiming something arrived damaged or unworking and you're suddenly out the item, plus a full refund because eBay always sides with the buyer.
 
2022-10-04 10:09:44 AM  
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2022-10-04 10:10:20 AM  
About 15 years ago I was schlepping a couple of bags of clothes over to Goodwill and discovered something interesting up front by the door: an enormous 4 manual pipe organ console. It was in fair shape but I was in a hurry and didn't ask them about it. I guess I dodged a bullet there, had I tried to bring that home my wife would have shot me dead. I don't even play! (Besides, it was just the console - the guts of the organ would have filled the building)
After reading above about their business practices I will now find a better place to take my stuff. That sort of crap is absolutely unconscionable. Thanks to you who have enlightened me!
 
2022-10-04 10:13:24 AM  

NeoCortex42: It can also be really tough to actually make a profit, depending on what you're selling.  I went through a big cleanout of stuff before a move last year and sold a ton on eBay.  After eBay fees, PayPal fees, and shipping cost, I was lucky to do better than breaking even on a number of things.  The problem is some sellers manage to sell things at insanely low prices that I can't understand how they come out ahead at all.  Then there's the risk of the buyer claiming something arrived damaged or unworking and you're suddenly out the item, plus a full refund because eBay always sides with the buyer.


Yeah, I probably should just get rid of that stuff via donation or a garage sale or something. Part of me is bothered that someone will snap up the collectibles for cheap and promptly flip them for a lot more, but the likely more sensible part of me thinks, so what? If they're willing to take the time to deal with that shiat, they deserve whatever profit they can make.
 
2022-10-04 10:13:28 AM  
So it's either Goodwill, which does terrible things to make money, or Salvation Army, which does terrible things with the money they make.

I'm not a big fan of either, but I still consider them a better way to get rid of stuff than just throwing out stuff that someone else may actually be able to use.
 
2022-10-04 10:13:39 AM  
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Some things you shouldn't really buy used, but if you are going to then you might as well buy a horse saddle too.
 
2022-10-04 10:13:42 AM  

chevydeuce: I just picked up a Weber Smokey Joe grill for $6.50 on Saturday at Goodwill, so I'm getting a kick....

/I don't buy clothes there because it all looks like garbage
//have never seen any disable types working at the one I go to on occasion
///don't really care what anybody thinks of the store/company, nobody's forcing anybody to shop there


True. No one is forcing you to shop there.
Which means your choice to support a company based on exploiting and endangering mentally disabled people reflects entirely upon you.
Sounds like if you could have gotten that grill for only $4 you would be ok with trafficked child slave labor, too.
 
2022-10-04 10:16:58 AM  

Phlegmbot: chevydeuce: I just picked up a Weber Smokey Joe grill for $6.50 on Saturday at Goodwill, so I'm getting a kick....

/I don't buy clothes there because it all looks like garbage
//have never seen any disable types working at the one I go to on occasion
///don't really care what anybody thinks of the store/company, nobody's forcing anybody to shop there

True. No one is forcing you to shop there.
Which means your choice to support a company based on exploiting and endangering mentally disabled people reflects entirely upon you.
Sounds like if you could have gotten that grill for only $4 you would be ok with trafficked child slave labor, too.


It's probably for the best you don't look into the chocolate industry.
 
2022-10-04 10:17:21 AM  
Unfortunately the next evolution of shopgoodwill auctions. Goodwill sucks and always has.
 
2022-10-04 10:19:54 AM  

electricjebus: 1funguy: electricjebus: jiggitysmith: Goodwill can FOAD.  Hey let's make a for profit version of Salvation army and somehow make it even shiattier by hiring disabled people for slave wages.

It's funny, in St. Louis there used to be a Goodwill right down the street from a Salvation Army, and a St. Vincent De Paul thrift shop.  The stuff in the Goodwill was absolute garbage compared to the other two and usually cost more.

I was just discussing that with the GF.  Goodwill wasn't always like that, but they are now.

That's ok if that is their new business model, and anyone that has shopped there in the past 20 years is quite aware of it, but you're right, if i want to donate stuff to a charity its going to St. Vincent.

If i want to get rid of junk it's Goodwill.  Let their "pickers" earn their premium.

Part of the reason that I love Fark is that it's one of the few places on the internet where I occasionally get to say "I'm only 38".  I've been to a better Goodwill in a small town that didn't have any other options, but still, the clothes didn't even smell like they had been properly cleaned.  I ended up with a bed bug issue once because a roommate bought a mattress from one etc...

I've got clothes from SVDP and Salvation Army that are 20 years old still hanging in my closet.


If they came to my house and looked in my closet, they would put me on the charity donation list.
Most of my closet would go right to the rag bin in real life. Doesn't matter to me. No missing buttons and the zipper still works...
1+ more seasons...
 
2022-10-04 10:20:07 AM  
With a quick google search, I found a brand new skull bowling ball that'll run you about $150 including drilling. It looks nicer and has a much better chance of actually fitting your fingers. Just in case anyone wants a skull bowling ball...

/ I'm here to help
 
2022-10-04 10:23:08 AM  

Dudley_Nightsoil: an enormous 4 manual pipe organ console


Look what I got for free...

I saw a cheap one at the Restore for $50, some knock off no-name home organ. I debated if I should buy it but it was heavy and I didn't have my dollies or hand truck with me.

That night on the local neighborhood social media thingy, wife found this ad:

"All I know it's an organ and it works. It belonged to my boyfriend who's moved out. I want this thing out of my house. Come and get it."

So we called, rushed over, and stuffed it into the back of the SUV, took it home and as I am unloading it, I realize, it's a goddamned Hammon Organ with a Leslie speaker built. in.

Turned it on, it worked, but the volume pedal is stuck in the "on" position and I can't lower it. I plays at one level only.

still, it was free

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