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(Tom's Guide)   Someone just leaked the full specs to the Google Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro. The iPhone 14 Pro has some new company   (tomsguide.com) divider line
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563 clicks; posted to STEM » on 04 Oct 2022 at 6:18 AM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-04 7:32:01 AM  
I still find it strange that these companies are selling cameras with the ability to make phone calls.
 
2022-10-04 7:44:11 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I still find it strange that these companies are selling cameras with the ability to make phone calls.


My DSLR has WiFi.
 
2022-10-04 7:54:15 AM  
One thing I learned with my iPhone 13 Pro is that you need a 2X. Indoors even 3X can be a bit much. If the lowest optical zoom is 5X it will mean you essentially have just the 1X main camera indoors. Otherwise the Pixel 7 looks pretty cool.

My dream would be 1X, 2X, 5X. If it had .5 and 10 it might be good too, but then that's a shiatload of friggin' cameras.
 
2022-10-04 8:01:21 AM  
I was trying to hold out for the Pixel 6a, but my 4a battery went wonky and swelled up (not a good sign with Lithium Ion batteries) and I went ahead and purchased the Pixel 6. I tend to keep phones about 3 years these days, so I am thinking Pixel 8a or 9. I liked the Pixel 1 and the 4a. The 6 is frankly a little bigger than what I like.
 
2022-10-04 8:02:59 AM  
Optical zoom is a thing. Digital zoom is garbage. You want digital zoom? Cut a photo in half - 2x zoom. Cut that piece in half again - 3x zoom. Cut it half again 4x zoom.

Or maybe it's 2x, 4x, 8x. It's too early for geometry.
 
2022-10-04 8:04:21 AM  
I just took a leak myself.  Could upload a video if y'all are into that.
 
2022-10-04 8:52:46 AM  
It's Android though, so they're going to give you a new upgrade every year that will break half your stuff and make you find the new controls they've hidden in even stupider places than last time.
 
2022-10-04 9:03:57 AM  
If by "having company" you mean "cpu that's 1/4th as fast and software full of bloat and microtransactions" sure. Oh and good luck with OS updates after 2 years on that android shiat phone.

/had my 5s until last summer
//was still getting critical security updates
 
2022-10-04 9:21:19 AM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: I just took a leak myself.  Could upload a video if y'all are into that.


Someone will declare it a Photoshop, they can tell by the pixels.
 
2022-10-04 9:32:21 AM  

Unobtanium: I was trying to hold out for the Pixel 6a, but my 4a battery went wonky and swelled up (not a good sign with Lithium Ion batteries) and I went ahead and purchased the Pixel 6. I tend to keep phones about 3 years these days, so I am thinking Pixel 8a or 9. I liked the Pixel 1 and the 4a. The 6 is frankly a little bigger than what I like.


I'm still nursing my 3a xl for another month or so hoping there's a good Black Friday sale on one of the newer models. it went out of support a few months ago and battery life is becoming an issue.  plus it's slow and pretty wonky now - love how the manufacturers manage to do that.

can't say a bad thing about the Pixel phones. had the original Pixel and now the 3a and have had zero issues with either.  I had a few Samsung phones before that, but after my experience having to return the Note 7 twice because of their tendency to explode - went with the Pixel.
 
2022-10-04 9:55:28 AM  
I know this is a stupid question so please don't kill me. Where do you buy Pixel phones at?
 
2022-10-04 10:05:12 AM  

neongoats: If by "having company" you mean "cpu that's 1/4th as fast and software full of bloat and microtransactions" sure. Oh and good luck with OS updates after 2 years on that android shiat phone.

/had my 5s until last summer
//was still getting critical security updates


On the Pixel, you'll get the updates, since it is a Google phone.

Can't really say on the CPU, since I have not seen any benchmarks.
 
2022-10-04 10:07:32 AM  

WTFDYW: I know this is a stupid question so please don't kill me. Where do you buy Pixel phones at?


Got my Pixel 6 through AT&T. Had to, because I couldn't afford to buy it outright. You can buy them from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from Google.
 
2022-10-04 10:08:57 AM  

Unobtanium: I was trying to hold out for the Pixel 6a, but my 4a battery went wonky and swelled up (not a good sign with Lithium Ion batteries) and I went ahead and purchased the Pixel 6. I tend to keep phones about 3 years these days, so I am thinking Pixel 8a or 9. I liked the Pixel 1 and the 4a. The 6 is frankly a little bigger than what I like.


I've needed a new phone since mine was stolen 3 months ago. I read this, https://www.tomsguide.com/deals/google-pixel-6a-just-crashed-to-dollar349-ahead-of-pixel-7-event this morning . The Pixel 4a might be more in my budget though.
So, thanks for posting you liked it!
 
2022-10-04 10:17:09 AM  

ProfessorTomoe: WTFDYW: I know this is a stupid question so please don't kill me. Where do you buy Pixel phones at?

Got my Pixel 6 through AT&T. Had to, because I couldn't afford to buy it outright. You can buy them from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from Google.


Thank you
 
2022-10-04 10:29:00 AM  

neongoats: If by "having company" you mean "cpu that's 1/4th as fast and software full of bloat and microtransactions" sure. Oh and good luck with OS updates after 2 years on that android shiat phone.

/had my 5s until last summer
//was still getting critical security updates


The article is talking about its camera.  No one is comparing a $600 phone to a $1000+ phones CPU.
 
2022-10-04 10:39:15 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I still find it strange that these companies are selling cameras with the ability to make phone calls.

My DSLR has WiFi.


There's no comparison between a proper camera and a phone regardless. Your phone's sensor is smaller than your pinky fingernail. It's hopeless at gathering light and has to resort to computational trickery in anything less than ideal conditions.

And yes, new cameras, especially mirrorless ones, all have wifi if not other advanced connectivity options. I use my phone as a remote trigger for my camera vastly more often than I use its own camera.
 
2022-10-04 11:37:05 AM  

WTFDYW: ProfessorTomoe: WTFDYW: I know this is a stupid question so please don't kill me. Where do you buy Pixel phones at?

Got my Pixel 6 through AT&T. Had to, because I couldn't afford to buy it outright. You can buy them from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from Google.

Thank you


You can get them at Verizon too.
 
2022-10-04 12:00:59 PM  

neongoats: If by "having company" you mean "cpu that's 1/4th as fast and software full of bloat and microtransactions" sure. Oh and good luck with OS updates after 2 years on that android shiat phone.

/had my 5s until last summer
//was still getting critical security updates


"Apple iPhone: Are you arrogant enough to own one?"
 
2022-10-04 12:21:44 PM  
Here's the thing to remember about Google's Pixel line from those Android haters at Android Authority:

Every time a new Pixel phone comes out, we make a whole article summarizing all the problems people have with them. We don't do this for any other manufacturer. Google has proven over the years that its phones simply have way more issues than others.

Last year's flagship Pixel was supposed to have a copy of FaceID that never worked and got yanked just before release.  They also managed to screw up the fingerprint reader by trying to move it under the screen with tech that never worked right.

There are two main complaints when it comes to the Pixel 6's fingerprint sensor, and they're slightly different: Slow unlock speeds and poor recognition altogether. As in, it sometimes works, but it's slow, and at other times it just doesn't work at all.

So a "flagship" device had two biometric systems, and neither one of them worked.

If you're going to pay that much money, you should get a device that works, as well as at least five years of OS updates and security updates after the sale.
 
2022-10-04 12:58:44 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: On the Pixel, you'll get the updates, since it is a Google phone.


You'll only get updates for a limited time period, since it's a Google phone.

The Pixel 4 hits end of life after three years of service
 
2022-10-04 2:01:13 PM  

Skids: Unobtanium: I was trying to hold out for the Pixel 6a, but my 4a battery went wonky and swelled up (not a good sign with Lithium Ion batteries) and I went ahead and purchased the Pixel 6. I tend to keep phones about 3 years these days, so I am thinking Pixel 8a or 9. I liked the Pixel 1 and the 4a. The 6 is frankly a little bigger than what I like.

I've needed a new phone since mine was stolen 3 months ago. I read this, https://www.tomsguide.com/deals/google-pixel-6a-just-crashed-to-dollar349-ahead-of-pixel-7-event this morning . The Pixel 4a might be more in my budget though.
So, thanks for posting you liked it!


The battery issue with my 4a is apparently not uncommon, so be aware of that. I read somewhere Google was going to start supporting phones longer. Here's a link to the dates of end-of-support.
 
2022-10-04 2:06:01 PM  

WTFDYW: ProfessorTomoe: WTFDYW: I know this is a stupid question so please don't kill me. Where do you buy Pixel phones at?

Got my Pixel 6 through AT&T. Had to, because I couldn't afford to buy it outright. You can buy them from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from Google.

Thank you


Also Best Buy can often sent you up, either at full retail or whatever monthly plan your carrier is using. Sometimes they include little promotional goodies specific to BB, but they're usually "meh" like 3 feet months of YouTube Premium.
 
2022-10-04 4:00:59 PM  

BullBearMS: If you're going to pay that much money, you should get a device that works, as well as at least five years of OS updates and security updates after the sale.


I really should. Does such a non-Apple device exist? I will not, under any circumstances, buy an Apple device.
 
2022-10-04 4:15:00 PM  

trialpha: BullBearMS: If you're going to pay that much money, you should get a device that works, as well as at least five years of OS updates and security updates after the sale.

I really should. Does such a non-Apple device exist? I will not, under any circumstances, buy an Apple device.


There's a sucker born every minute.

The nine year old iPhone 5s just got another security update a couple of months ago.

The OG iPhone SE got six years of OS updates and is still getting security updates as well.
 
2022-10-04 5:33:52 PM  
No memory card slot? Absolute deal breaker.

Why? Substantially every Android phone I've owned had an OS update that required you to go through Google drive to get any files onto or off of the phone, with some files disallowed entirely; for 'security reasons'.

Do you have music? App settings? Documents? F*ck you! Phones are only for Facebook and nothing else.

But I really don't get are phones with no memory card slot and also less than 5 gigs of hard drive space. Chromebooks even do this. You expect to get any work done on a 'laptop' with no ability to save hardly anything before you start to run into paging errors? Tosh pish pshaw.
 
2022-10-04 7:35:40 PM  
I didn't read the article. Is it the camera? It's always the stupid camera. I could not care less about the camera except in one situation.  Taking a picture behind a piece of equipment to try to read a label or view a connector or similar.  Can't get behind the TV to see if that port you feel is an HDMI or a USB?  Stick your phone back there and snap a pic.  Can't see where that bolt goes under the intake manifold?  Stick your phone under there and snap a pic.
I want close up focus in low light situations.  None do this well.
 
2022-10-05 2:56:51 PM  

Ravage: I didn't read the article. Is it the camera? It's always the stupid camera. I could not care less about the camera except in one situation.  Taking a picture behind a piece of equipment to try to read a label or view a connector or similar.  Can't get behind the TV to see if that port you feel is an HDMI or a USB?  Stick your phone back there and snap a pic.  Can't see where that bolt goes under the intake manifold?  Stick your phone under there and snap a pic.
I want close up focus in low light situations.  None do this well.


We are really at an impass though with what else you can cram new features into a phone with?

My phone is a great music player, has a great screen, has more than enough horsepower than i need, even as a power user, has biometric features, can serve as a token for something, a power bank, etc.

Small increments of improvement on them isn't a game changer. Hell, even battery life isn't a huge deal anymore for most people. But, you can still slap new substantial features into the cameras.

At this point someone needs to figure out some kind of new application for a phone nobody is thinking of which requires new hardware or form factor. Until then everything on a new phone will be a bit gimicky.
 
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