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(New Scientist)   Why ancient Nubia is finally emerging from Egypt's shadow. What's a Nubia?   (newscientist.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Ancient Egypt, Egypt, Prussian archaeologist Karl Richard Lepsius, full richness of the ancient Egyptian civilisation, ancient Egypt, dividing line, middle of the 19th century, Egyptology  
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2022-10-03 2:14:56 PM  
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2022-10-03 2:48:47 PM  
5 votes:
Nubia, please.
 
2022-10-03 4:36:58 PM  
3 votes:
That's a lot of words to say that finally we're finally starting to stop looking at the ancient world through the lens of the Bible.
 
2022-10-03 4:59:47 PM  
3 votes:
Nothing much, what's a-Nubia with you?
 
2022-10-03 4:03:32 PM  
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2022-10-03 5:23:35 PM  
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bostonguy: anotherluser: When I first ran across the claim that Egyptians were Black, I thought that what they really should have been doing was emphasizing Nubia, because those people were unquestionably Black, and they had an early civilization that could be pointed to. The Egyptians' images of themselves looked more like the people who live there right now. So the Nubians didn't dominate Egypt militarily, except for 1 period of approximately 100 years, starting in the 740s BC. Hey, Isaeal and Judah weren't winning that often in antiquity, either, but nobody goes around insisting they were somehow less civilized people.

So I don't even have a GED in African history (ha), so I know nothing. But an honest question for those who know more than I.

The Islamic Empire, in part, conquered the top third of Africa back in the day. I'm guessing that they exported populations to there as they did elsewhere, right?

Assuming that's true, wouldn't that mean that all of Africa - including Egypt -- was basically "black" (I hate that term) until that point? Though I could be wrong because there always had been a lot of intermixing among Mediterranean peoples.

Curious to learn this history...


Not to mention that Islam arrived about 3000 years too late to have changed how the ancient Egyptian population looked.
 
2022-10-03 5:54:49 PM  
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2022-10-03 6:07:02 PM  
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bostonguy: anotherluser: When I first ran across the claim that Egyptians were Black, I thought that what they really should have been doing was emphasizing Nubia, because those people were unquestionably Black, and they had an early civilization that could be pointed to. The Egyptians' images of themselves looked more like the people who live there right now. So the Nubians didn't dominate Egypt militarily, except for 1 period of approximately 100 years, starting in the 740s BC. Hey, Isaeal and Judah weren't winning that often in antiquity, either, but nobody goes around insisting they were somehow less civilized people.

So I don't even have a GED in African history (ha), so I know nothing. But an honest question for those who know more than I.

The Islamic Empire, in part, conquered the top third of Africa back in the day. I'm guessing that they exported populations to there as they did elsewhere, right?

Assuming that's true, wouldn't that mean that all of Africa - including Egypt -- was basically "black" (I hate that term) until that point? Though I could be wrong because there always had been a lot of intermixing among Mediterranean peoples.

Curious to learn this history...


Actually the opposite seems to be the case. There is actually more sub-Saharan DNA in modern Egyptians than ancient Egyptians. They seemed to be substantially "Mediterranean."

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2022-10-03 3:25:19 PM  
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UberDave: [Fark user image 480x360]


the movie should have just been this scene

/well isn't that true?
 
2022-10-03 4:17:35 PM  
1 vote:
Whatever it is, Watto's got lots of it.
 
2022-10-03 4:51:28 PM  
1 vote:
When I first ran across the claim that Egyptians were Black, I thought that what they really should have been doing was emphasizing Nubia, because those people were unquestionably Black, and they had an early civilization that could be pointed to. The Egyptians' images of themselves looked more like the people who live there right now. So the Nubians didn't dominate Egypt militarily, except for 1 period of approximately 100 years, starting in the 740s BC. Hey, Isaeal and Judah weren't winning that often in antiquity, either, but nobody goes around insisting they were somehow less civilized people.
 
2022-10-03 9:45:11 PM  
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I only like black girls, the brown girls, the cafe au lait
Caramel girls and mocha girls just blow me away
If you are Nubian I want you to be in every fantasy
But if you're a whitey, say nighty nighty
You're just not the girl for me...
 
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