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(Slate)   What if octopuses had souls? We'd be force to conclude, "I ink, therefore I am"   (slate.com) divider line
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2022-10-03 2:01:40 PM  
What makes Slate think humans have souls? If we can't even answer that question, how are we going to answer the question for octopuses*?


*And yes, that is the correct plural. Anybody who says other wise is ignorant or pretentious.
 
2022-10-03 2:12:48 PM  
(psst - squid)

(morans)
 
2022-10-03 2:16:10 PM  
Do octopuses have 9 lives?
 
2022-10-03 2:21:41 PM  
Umm, they'd vote Democrat?
 
2022-10-03 2:30:29 PM  
The existence of a soul isn't a provable thing at this time, but Octopuses are intelligent, sentient beings. That is provable.

Ever seen a non-sentient being make a garden?  Near a cave?  In the shade?


(get well soon, Ringo!)
 
2022-10-03 2:30:33 PM  

LewDux: Do octopuses have 9 lives?


8, obviously.
 
2022-10-03 2:37:37 PM  

Jack Sabbath: (get well soon, Ringo!)



Walk Hard - Beatles scene
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2022-10-03 2:38:05 PM  
Cogito, ergo  squirt
 
2022-10-03 2:40:16 PM  
What if God was Octopus?
Not at all like one of us?
Just a Cephalopodic being in a Celestial coral reef?
 
2022-10-03 2:56:54 PM  
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2022-10-03 3:01:51 PM  
I have a completely unsupported guess on octopuses' intelligence.

I think they pass their memories to their spawn. Baby octopuses are born knowing what their parents knew.

All animals are able to edit their own DNA. Humans, most animals, about 3-4% of their genome. Octopuses, it's about 80%.

Octopuses can edit, on the fly, about 80% of their genetic code. Most of the editing is to adapt to environmental changes.

It's also known that animals can pass on learned behavior to their descendants. I suspect octopuses do this A LOT. Baby octopuses are born with the knowledge of their parents. One baby octopus has millions of years of experience built into its DNA.
 
2022-10-03 3:09:16 PM  
what if they have other, completely imaginary stuff?  how about amphibious, flying dreadnoughts or sentient pet mushrooms?  what then huh?  WHAT THEN!?!
 
2022-10-03 3:31:33 PM  
If they do have souls, then when they die, do they leave Arda through the Door of Night or gather in the Halls of Mandos to await Dagor Dagorath?
 
2022-10-03 3:46:46 PM  

a particular individual: I have a completely unsupported guess on octopuses' intelligence.

I think they pass their memories to their spawn. Baby octopuses are born knowing what their parents knew.

All animals are able to edit their own DNA. Humans, most animals, about 3-4% of their genome. Octopuses, it's about 80%.

Octopuses can edit, on the fly, about 80% of their genetic code. Most of the editing is to adapt to environmental changes.

It's also known that animals can pass on learned behavior to their descendants. I suspect octopuses do this A LOT. Baby octopuses are born with the knowledge of their parents. One baby octopus has millions of years of experience built into its DNA.


RNA. They edit RNA.
 
2022-10-03 4:10:16 PM  

HugeMistake: What makes Slate think humans have souls? If we can't even answer that question, how are we going to answer the question for octopuses*?


*And yes, that is the correct plural. Anybody who says other wise is ignorant or pretentious.


According to Alex Trebek back in the day, the correct answer is "octopedes".
 
2022-10-03 4:24:44 PM  
Their salvation would involve a complicated cross.
 
2022-10-03 4:30:24 PM  
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2022-10-03 4:30:28 PM  
Uhhh... missing a few things.

First you have to explain what a soul is.
Then you have to explain what evidence there is that such a thing is a real thing, and not just some fiction.
Then you gotta show the evidence that they affect anything, have any meaning to the human condition.
Then you have to prove that humans - or any other animals - have them.

I've never seen any serious attempt made at any of those. Just a whole lot of:

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and then

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2022-10-03 4:58:04 PM  

WelldeadLink: a particular individual: I have a completely unsupported guess on octopuses' intelligence.

I think they pass their memories to their spawn. Baby octopuses are born knowing what their parents knew.

All animals are able to edit their own DNA. Humans, most animals, about 3-4% of their genome. Octopuses, it's about 80%.

Octopuses can edit, on the fly, about 80% of their genetic code. Most of the editing is to adapt to environmental changes.

It's also known that animals can pass on learned behavior to their descendants. I suspect octopuses do this A LOT. Baby octopuses are born with the knowledge of their parents. One baby octopus has millions of years of experience built into its DNA.

RNA. They edit RNA.


A Particular Individual was right. They do edit their own DNA.
 
2022-10-03 5:01:45 PM  
crappy link; try this.
 
2022-10-03 5:02:26 PM  
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2022-10-03 5:08:08 PM  

spaceman375: crappy link; try this.


Can you find one of those which does not say that they do RNA editing?
 
2022-10-03 5:52:58 PM  

Aardvark Inc.: [Fark user image 469x617]


Aww! cute little Trogdor wings!
 
2022-10-03 5:55:11 PM  
oh feces. (stupid filters) I sit corrected. fell prey to sensationalist headlines. so much journalism has no integrity these days.
 
2022-10-03 6:03:36 PM  

kmgenesis23: HugeMistake: What makes Slate think humans have souls? If we can't even answer that question, how are we going to answer the question for octopuses*?


*And yes, that is the correct plural. Anybody who says other wise is ignorant or pretentious.

According to Alex Trebek back in the day, the correct answer is "octopedes".


That is (a) almost as bogus a construction as "octopodes" and (2) by extension implies that the plural of Bigfoot is Bigfeet.
 
2022-10-03 6:45:22 PM  

HugeMistake: kmgenesis23: HugeMistake: What makes Slate think humans have souls? If we can't even answer that question, how are we going to answer the question for octopuses*?


*And yes, that is the correct plural. Anybody who says other wise is ignorant or pretentious.

According to Alex Trebek back in the day, the correct answer is "octopedes".

That is (a) almost as bogus a construction as "octopodes" and (2) by extension implies that the plural of Bigfoot is Bigfeet.


Odo Proudfoot agrees with me.
 
2022-10-03 7:42:31 PM  

WelldeadLink: a particular individual: I have a completely unsupported guess on octopuses' intelligence.

I think they pass their memories to their spawn. Baby octopuses are born knowing what their parents knew.

All animals are able to edit their own DNA. Humans, most animals, about 3-4% of their genome. Octopuses, it's about 80%.

Octopuses can edit, on the fly, about 80% of their genetic code. Most of the editing is to adapt to environmental changes.

It's also known that animals can pass on learned behavior to their descendants. I suspect octopuses do this A LOT. Baby octopuses are born with the knowledge of their parents. One baby octopus has millions of years of experience built into its DNA.

RNA. They edit RNA.


Thanks! I learned (and unlearned) something.
 
2022-10-03 11:58:02 PM  
Has conflicted thoughts on this topic...

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2022-10-04 3:07:08 AM  
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What if they steal souls?
 
2022-10-04 6:12:57 AM  
Of course the octopus has a soul.  It's a small dark and cruel thing, and it's what drives them to want to pry you open like a plump clam and suck away your salty inner goodness thru their razor-sharp little beaks.
 
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