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    More: Scary, Airport, Duluth, Minnesota, National Transportation Safety Board, Minnesota, Lake Superior, small plane, Duluth International Airport, Cessna 172  
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2022-10-03 1:43:26 PM  
22 votes:
That movie is Terribly Sexy...Well actually it's terribly sad too...

/John Lithgow was just awesome too..
 
2022-10-03 12:40:14 PM  
14 votes:
It's been pre-disastered!
 
2022-10-03 1:48:29 PM  
8 votes:

Mr. Shabooboo: That movie is Terribly Sexy...Well actually it's terribly sad too...

/John Lithgow was just awesome too..


Lithgow is such a great talent, and I think underappreciated. Wife and I finished watching the first season of "The Old Man" a few weeks back. The scenes with Lithgows character and his "adopted" daughter were fantastic. It was like watching a masterclass of subtlety in acting.

He's got great comedy chops (3rd Rock From the Sun, for example) and can do everything from psychological horror to drama as well.
 
2022-10-03 2:10:34 PM  
5 votes:

RyansPrivates: Mr. Shabooboo: That movie is Terribly Sexy...Well actually it's terribly sad too...

/John Lithgow was just awesome too..

Lithgow is such a great talent, and I think underappreciated. Wife and I finished watching the first season of "The Old Man" a few weeks back. The scenes with Lithgows character and his "adopted" daughter were fantastic. It was like watching a masterclass of subtlety in acting.

He's got great comedy chops (3rd Rock From the Sun, for example) and can do everything from psychological horror to drama as well.


He was amazing in the final season of Dexter.
 
2022-10-03 1:58:33 PM  
4 votes:
The world according to Garp
Youtube DBSAeqdcZAM
 
2022-10-03 1:58:34 PM  
3 votes:

MelGoesOnTour: chewd: Somebody VFR'd when they should have IFR'd

Based on the conditions, I do wonder if that's the case (i.e., not IFR rated).


Cessna 172... theres a good chance the pilot wasnt IFR rated.,,, probably did a scud run diverting to Duluth Intl when he couldnt get into his regular home airport.... assuming he'd be able to see their lights thru the fog.

/been there.
//well except for the "crashing into a house" part
///learned a very valuable lesson that day.
 
2022-10-03 1:59:01 PM  
3 votes:
Apparently he filed an IFR flight plan. Even so,  those conditions are pretty bad for single-pilot IFR at night.
 
2022-10-03 2:16:41 PM  
3 votes:

RyansPrivates: Mr. Shabooboo: That movie is Terribly Sexy...Well actually it's terribly sad too...

/John Lithgow was just awesome too..

Lithgow is such a great talent, and I think underappreciated. Wife and I finished watching the first season of "The Old Man" a few weeks back. The scenes with Lithgows character and his "adopted" daughter were fantastic. It was like watching a masterclass of subtlety in acting.

He's got great comedy chops (3rd Rock From the Sun, for example) and can do everything from psychological horror to drama as well.


Won an Emmy for by far the best season of Dexter. Also, watch Raising Cain if you've never seen it. 
Raising Cain (1992) - Official Trailer
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2022-10-03 3:42:12 PM  
2 votes:

kb7rky: Didn't notice the clouds rolling in, until I couldn't see the VOR.


Were you doing VOR navigation by looking at the VOR transmitter building?
 
2022-10-03 4:56:22 PM  
2 votes:

thedumbone: Oneiros: OVC002 overcast (at 2 miles?)

Overcast clouds 200ft above the ground.


Correct, and that's the biggest alarm bell here. 200' is LOW, you are in the clouds no more than 10-20 seconds after takeoff. Add an immediate right turn and going from a brightly-lit runway into a black hole, and it's a really good setup for spatial disorientation. Even moreso if you're troubleshooting anything that went wrong on or after your takeoff roll (or just being so far behind the aircraft you might as well be hanging on to the tail tie down ring).
 
2022-10-03 1:46:48 PM  
1 vote:
Just a couple days after a helicopter flew into another house. What's up with these pilots? Were they high?

/well they were before they crashed, then they got quite low
 
2022-10-03 1:48:31 PM  
1 vote:
In Minnesota, you should always be prepared for guests to just drop in.
 
2022-10-03 2:59:44 PM  
1 vote:
I did something similar once. Took off for my three touch-and-goes, then asked the tower if I could go shoot the VOR for a little navigational practice. Didn't notice the clouds rolling in, until I couldn't see the VOR. Had to drop down a bit so I could, then noticed the field (LWS) was socked in, or so it appeared. White-knuckle flying the five miles back to 8/26 (the longer runway which the tower guys guided me to), and saw that the field was clear. Reduced my speed, set my flaps, and entered the pattern for short final. I literally kissed the ground when the plane stopped rolling.

Lesson Learned™: Whether you're a student, or experienced pilot, bad weather can roll in real farking quick. Always have a backup plan, and/or get back on the ground as quickly as possible...preferably in one piece.
 
2022-10-03 4:49:21 PM  
1 vote:

Oneiros: OVC002 overcast (at 2 miles?)


Overcast clouds 200ft above the ground.
 
2022-10-03 11:05:03 PM  
1 vote:

SansNeural: Charlie Freak: thedumbone: Oneiros: OVC002 overcast (at 2 miles?)

Overcast clouds 200ft above the ground.

Correct, and that's the biggest alarm bell here. 200' is LOW, you are in the clouds no more than 10-20 seconds after takeoff. Add an immediate right turn and going from a brightly-lit runway into a black hole, and it's a really good setup for spatial disorientation. Even moreso if you're troubleshooting anything that went wrong on or after your takeoff roll (or just being so far behind the aircraft you might as well be hanging on to the tail tie down ring).

At this point it could be any number of things and maybe combinations.  My current guess is disorientation, distraction and resulting failure to maintain airspeed.  But just guesses.


Correction - I will say he had plenty of airspeed, though. This was a spiral, not a stall/spin. He may have been close to a stall at one point, but the terminal descent had plenty of airspeed. Unusual attitude recovery. Practice it. A lot.
 
2022-10-04 9:41:09 AM  
1 vote:

RyansPrivates: Fano: RyansPrivates: Mr. Shabooboo: That movie is Terribly Sexy...Well actually it's terribly sad too...

/John Lithgow was just awesome too..

Lithgow is such a great talent, and I think underappreciated. Wife and I finished watching the first season of "The Old Man" a few weeks back. The scenes with Lithgows character and his "adopted" daughter were fantastic. It was like watching a masterclass of subtlety in acting.

He's got great comedy chops (3rd Rock From the Sun, for example) and can do everything from psychological horror to drama as well.

He is a ridiculously scary villain in Dexter

Yeah, between that and Raising Cain (mentioned above) he is scary as hell. He even get's scary in the "I will have you killed and buried somewhere and nobody will ever hear from you again" in The Old Man. You know that he wouldn't be the one committing the violence, but he damned well can order someone else to.


Ricochet was an amazing movie showcasing his ruthlessness as a villain.
 
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