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2022-10-03 1:21:26 PM  
Nope.... Just nope
 
2022-10-03 1:30:21 PM  
Sounds weird.  But Vetri and his restaurants rarely miss so I'm somewhat intrigued.
 
2022-10-03 1:36:28 PM  
For sauces sure what ever this is nope
 
2022-10-03 1:37:02 PM  
I'll try it, but it's not a martini.
 
2022-10-03 1:38:32 PM  
I like my martini with a very floral gin and lillet blanc instead of vermouth. Is that still a martini?
 
2022-10-03 1:47:28 PM  

talkyournonsense: I like my martini with a very floral gin and lillet blanc instead of vermouth. Is that still a martini?


No, but it sounds better than a martini
 
2022-10-03 1:55:13 PM  
The only thing good about saving pasta water is that chance Scarlett Johansson will bang you like I saw in a movie.
 
2022-10-03 1:59:06 PM  
I get my gin from a little Portland distillery you've never heard of and I drink it neat.

A shaken vodka martini is just a vermouth and water. Lots of water.
 
2022-10-03 2:05:47 PM  
Gin is gross. If you like gin, you're gross too.
 
2022-10-03 2:33:47 PM  

abhorrent1: Gin is gross. If you like gin, you're gross too.


I hated gin until I had a Negroni. Now, the more herbaceous the better.
 
2022-10-03 2:47:31 PM  

abhorrent1: Gin is gross. If you like gin, you're gross too.


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Oblig.
 
2022-10-03 3:05:52 PM  

AuralArgument: Nope.... Just nope


That was my first reaction also.

But if Vetri is doing it, it's going to be good.
 
2022-10-03 3:19:52 PM  
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2022-10-03 3:24:11 PM  
BunkyBrewman:

The difference is it's his pasta water, with his pasta.


I'm sure my 00 flour isn't the same flour they use. Etc
 
2022-10-03 3:25:53 PM  

talkyournonsense: I like my martini with a very floral gin and lillet blanc instead of vermouth. Is that still a martini?


Lillet Blanc is like a French version of vermouth, so it's not that far off from what most consider to be a martini based solely upon ingredients.
 
2022-10-03 3:28:50 PM  

abhorrent1: Gin is gross. If you like gin, you're gross too.


Gin comes in a wide range of flavors, so not all of them are heavy on the juniper, which seems to be what some people dislike about it. Perhaps you might do better with gin if you can find one that suits your personal preferences in terms of flavor.
 
2022-10-03 3:40:27 PM  

talkyournonsense: I like my martini with a very floral gin and lillet blanc instead of vermouth. Is that still a martini?


It's almost a Vesper. It's certainly Aston Martin-ish.
 
2022-10-03 5:00:59 PM  
I prefer my martinis wet with a twist so the olive-y ones don't sound appealing, but the Turf Club cocktail sounds good.

I'm also pretty sure I don't want a martini that sticks to my tongue, but I'd be willing to try it.
 
2022-10-03 5:03:23 PM  
My latest gin cocktail, which is vaguely martini-ish if these things are, is two jiggers of gin, half of damiana, a dash of chocolate bitters, and a few drops of Fee Brothers or cinnamon bitters, stirred and served up. Smooth, lightly sweet, and complex.
 
2022-10-03 5:17:02 PM  
Why do they call these Martini's instead of coming up with an original name? Especially if they contain almost nothing that an actual martini contains?

Here's how to make a vodak old-fashioned:

1 oz vodak
1 oz triple sec
a splash of cola
a couple drops of grenadine
and a black olive
Serve in an old-fashioned glass with ice

See! It's just a variation of an old-fashioned!
 
2022-10-03 5:34:56 PM  

eyeq360: talkyournonsense: I like my martini with a very floral gin and lillet blanc instead of vermouth. Is that still a martini?

Lillet Blanc is like a French version of vermouth, so it's not that far off from what most consider to be a martini based solely upon ingredients.


That's what I think but not all in this thread agree, I wish I could take a poll
 
2022-10-03 5:35:36 PM  

NobleHam: I prefer my martinis wet with a twist so the olive-y ones don't sound appealing, but the Turf Club cocktail sounds good.

I'm also pretty sure I don't want a martini that sticks to my tongue, but I'd be willing to try it.


I do mine with a twist too!
 
2022-10-03 5:40:44 PM  

NobleHam: My latest gin cocktail, which is vaguely martini-ish if these things are, is two jiggers of gin, half of damiana, a dash of chocolate bitters, and a few drops of Fee Brothers or cinnamon bitters, stirred and served up. Smooth, lightly sweet, and complex.


1. That sounds delicious, but where do you get Damiana liquor and what's the brand name . I've seriously looked freaking everywhere for it. I have the loose herb and I'm 10 seconds from getting some everclear and making my own.

2. My favorite gin cocktail is gin, creme d'violette, lillet blanc, with a wee bit o absinthe aka Arsenic and Old Lace but I mix it in a way that makes it taste like farking candy!
 
2022-10-03 6:00:15 PM  

talkyournonsense: 1. That sounds delicious, but where do you get Damiana liquor and what's the brand name . I've seriously looked freaking everywhere for it. I have the loose herb and I'm 10 seconds from getting some everclear and making my own.


It can be hard to find. If you're in Seattle I know one place that usually has it, Esquin. Otherwise, check large specialty wine and liquor stores. As far as brand names, I don't know, it just says Damiana on the bottle, which is pretty distinctive:

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2022-10-03 6:27:39 PM  

talkyournonsense: eyeq360: talkyournonsense: I like my martini with a very floral gin and lillet blanc instead of vermouth. Is that still a martini?

Lillet Blanc is like a French version of vermouth, so it's not that far off from what most consider to be a martini based solely upon ingredients.

That's what I think but not all in this thread agree, I wish I could take a poll


Fark is full of people with opinions on every topic, and martinis is one of them. Purists will insist that a martini only contains London Dry style gin and dry vermouth, and will give arguments on the proper ratio of each and the right garnish.

iat's your personal riff on the martini and if you like it, then by all means, go and drink it, other opinions on name and taste be damned.
 
2022-10-03 8:57:21 PM  

NobleHam: talkyournonsense: 1. That sounds delicious, but where do you get Damiana liquor and what's the brand name . I've seriously looked freaking everywhere for it. I have the loose herb and I'm 10 seconds from getting some everclear and making my own.

It can be hard to find. If you're in Seattle I know one place that usually has it, Esquin. Otherwise, check large specialty wine and liquor stores. As far as brand names, I don't know, it just says Damiana on the bottle, which is pretty distinctive:

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Next time I'm in Seattle I'll find it!
 
2022-10-03 10:02:11 PM  

NobleHam: talkyournonsense: 1. That sounds delicious, but where do you get Damiana liquor and what's the brand name . I've seriously looked freaking everywhere for it. I have the loose herb and I'm 10 seconds from getting some everclear and making my own.

It can be hard to find. If you're in Seattle I know one place that usually has it, Esquin. Otherwise, check large specialty wine and liquor stores. As far as brand names, I don't know, it just says Damiana on the bottle, which is pretty distinctive:

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I think Damiana is the name of the product and the company/brand that makes it. At least from what I've seen online.
 
2022-10-03 11:25:04 PM  

eyeq360: NobleHam: talkyournonsense: 1. That sounds delicious, but where do you get Damiana liquor and what's the brand name . I've seriously looked freaking everywhere for it. I have the loose herb and I'm 10 seconds from getting some everclear and making my own.

It can be hard to find. If you're in Seattle I know one place that usually has it, Esquin. Otherwise, check large specialty wine and liquor stores. As far as brand names, I don't know, it just says Damiana on the bottle, which is pretty distinctive:

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I think Damiana is the name of the product and the company/brand that makes it. At least from what I've seen online.


I live in a place with government run liquor so finding things like this can be a challenge
 
2022-10-03 11:27:52 PM  
Who puts water in a martini?
 
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