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2022-10-03 8:44:31 AM  
Great, now how am I going to see "Star Trek V; The Final Frontier"?!
 
2022-10-03 8:46:17 AM  

UberDave: Great, now how am I going to see "Star Trek V; The Final Frontier"?!


Just close your eyes and imagine why god needs a starship.
 
2022-10-03 8:53:25 AM  

UberDave: Great, now how am I going to see "Star Trek V; The Final Frontier"?!


YouTube Uhuru's sexy dance and you've watched the best part
 
2022-10-03 8:53:55 AM  
Uhura*

Fugging autocarrot.
 
2022-10-03 9:14:49 AM  
You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

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2022-10-03 9:41:00 AM  
I'm really impressed that all these separate streaming services are such an easy and convenient alternative to cable or satellite TV.

All...well, mostly all...a good chunk...a decent amount of my favorite TV shows and movies across 7 different streaming services all with their own monthly fee.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get my separate sports streams all with their own monthly fee.
 
2022-10-03 9:41:47 AM  
However, today the service is down to just two: the 2009 Star Trek film and 2013's Star Trek Into Darkness...no Star Trek films.
 
2022-10-03 9:43:39 AM  

optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

[Fark user image 850x1073]


Along those same lines, I bought a blu-ray set of all the original movies for... well i don't remember exactly, but it was less than 30$ on sale.

TOS and TNG are my favorite, but specifically TOS I can either put on and watch and be engaged, or put it on and have in the background and nap.
 
2022-10-03 9:46:40 AM  
Guess i gotta get out of my chair and swap out my blurays of the films like a primitive again.. so uncivilized.
 
2022-10-03 9:49:18 AM  
Ahhh, journalism in 2022.

I would actually like to know the story here, about why the movies keep disappearing, where they are going... What licensing deals keep being made, or why licensing deals made years ago keep affecting it on and off.

But like, the "journalist" might actually have to ask someone at Paramount, and that seems like a lot of effort. So vague guesses and loose talk about other services maybe or maybe not securing licenses or deals or not or bad data entry or a management oopsie or dare I say aliens or even lizard people could be responsible.
 
2022-10-03 9:49:32 AM  

Rev.K: I'm really impressed that all these separate streaming services are such an easy and convenient alternative to cable or satellite TV.

All...well, mostly all...a good chunk...a decent amount of my favorite TV shows and movies across 7 different streaming services all with their own monthly fee.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get my separate sports streams all with their own monthly fee.


I while I'm not a big fan of streaming services.
I LOVE over the air HDTV. So much so, we put up a new roof antenna and can pick up even more channels. (mostly god worriers tho)
But also a nearby PBS stations, movie stations and things like "ME TV", Comet, FoodTV, etc.
No charge. No charge for first run DVD movies at the library either.

You can PPV for sports events on the internet if you wish....just like DisneyPlus.

But YOU CAN STILL. PAY SPECTURM, CHARTER, TIME/W...a 170 a month to get all the bundles you miss and lament about not having, imagine That!.
Go for it! The Choice is yours now......because you *have* a choice.
 
2022-10-03 9:51:47 AM  
I don't understand, don't they own those movies??
 
2022-10-03 9:54:04 AM  
No big loss.

There was only one half-decent TNG movie and even then it was Picard as Rambo versus the Time-Travelling Space Zombies.
 
2022-10-03 9:56:38 AM  
Didn't Paramount produce and distribute them? Seems odd that it wouldn't just be an automatic thing, seeing as both Paramount Pictures and Paramount+ are owned by the same parent company
 
2022-10-03 9:59:36 AM  

Quantumbunny: Ahhh, journalism in 2022.

I would actually like to know the story here, about why the movies keep disappearing, where they are going... What licensing deals keep being made, or why licensing deals made years ago keep affecting it on and off.

But like, the "journalist" might actually have to ask someone at Paramount, and that seems like a lot of effort. So vague guesses and loose talk about other services maybe or maybe not securing licenses or deals or not or bad data entry or a management oopsie or dare I say aliens or even lizard people could be responsible.


Glad I'm not the only one noticing that.

An article filled with speculation rather than actual information. I'm also pretty sure the phrases like "we reached out to ${company} but received no comment" is code for "I fired off a tweet seconds before my deadline, that counts!"
 
2022-10-03 10:01:09 AM  

Bslim: However, today the service is down to just two: the 2009 Star Trek film and 2013's Star Trek Into Darkness...no Star Trek films.


It's been that way with Trek since the 60's. NBC got into a b-fight with "Desilu" about rebroadcast rights in the early 70's. Lucile Ball eventually signed over her rights to NBC and got screwed on the scydication deals.
I think NBC said "fine" we don't have to carry your show, we'll put on reruns of WildWildWest until YOU SUBMIT LUCY.
It was only when there was a massive fan led protest, letter writing campaign that Trek got picked up for a 3rd season.

https://www.startrek.com/news/how-lucille-ball-helped-star-trek-become-a-cultural-icon
https://heavy.com/entertainment/star-trek/bjo-john-trimble-letter-writing-campaign/
 
2022-10-03 10:05:41 AM  

Brynden Rivers: I don't understand, don't they own those movies??


What's funny. Is that they when they did the animated series. They didn't own the music.
And corporate didn't want to pay for the music. So, there's like inverted phrases, missing beats---just enough to nudge in a 'negativeland' coprwrite dodge.

Star Trek: The Animated Series Season 1 Opening and Closing Credits and Theme Song
Youtube JB_1Uh65wZU
 
2022-10-03 10:13:36 AM  

Rattrap007: Guess i gotta get out of my chair and swap out my blurays of the films like a primitive again.. so uncivilized.


And this Chateau le Blanc '68 is supposed to be served slightly chilled! This is room temperature! What do you think we are? Animals?
 
2022-10-03 10:14:35 AM  

optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.


The CGI enhanced TOS always makes me chuckle, because the digital updates now look more dated than the original effects.
 
2022-10-03 10:18:17 AM  

Brynden Rivers: I don't understand, don't they own those movies??


Yes, they do - and if you don't own them on physical media or hard drive, they can flip-flop their availability to you as much as and whenever they please.
 
2022-10-03 10:22:50 AM  

Quantumbunny: Ahhh, journalism in 2022.

I would actually like to know the story here, about why the movies keep disappearing, where they are going... What licensing deals keep being made, or why licensing deals made years ago keep affecting it on and off.

But like, the "journalist" might actually have to ask someone at Paramount, and that seems like a lot of effort. So vague guesses and loose talk about other services maybe or maybe not securing licenses or deals or not or bad data entry or a management oopsie or dare I say aliens or even lizard people could be responsible.


Yeah, we can only guess.  But when people don't understand things, they just get angry (see fark threads).  I'm going to assume being angry drives clicks and that makes them revenue?  I dunno.

But yeah, it's annoying.  Most of the time when a movie or something disappears from streaming services it's because of deals made long ago.  And sometimes they're not available on any streaming services because those deals were to cable channels.

Unfortunately until all those deals run out (or are bought out, but that's only going to happen rarely, because), this kind of weirdness is going to continue.

On the other hand, companies themselves would do themselves a service to announce that too.  "Hey, this is going away because of a deal we made 10 years ago before our streaming service was a thing.  But don't worry, the deal is only for a year, they'll return permanently at that point".  Instead of all these angry idiots who claim they're going to commit illegal acts... how about transparency?  If you're transparent about why a movie is disappearing, it'll ease the concerns.  Maybe people will still be annoyed, but at least they'll understand.
 
2022-10-03 10:25:32 AM  

optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

[Fark user image image 850x1073]


The CGI "improvements " make it feel weird when they are showing a modern version of the Enterprise in front of a glorious CGI planet, and the the camera goes to the interior of the clearly 1960s living room
 
2022-10-03 10:30:37 AM  
The TNG movies were shiat. The Borg one somewhat less shiat.
 
2022-10-03 10:34:50 AM  

Fano: optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

[Fark user image image 850x1073]

The CGI "improvements " make it feel weird when they are showing a modern version of the Enterprise in front of a glorious CGI planet, and the the camera goes to the interior of the clearly 1960s living room


The CGI for the remaster aged like milk.  It was cool when it first came out, but looked pretty bad even a few years later.  The cleaned up video and audio of the original versions looks outstanding on Blu-Ray, though.  Same with TNG.  It's amazing how good those episodes look now.  It's too bad DS9 will never see similar treatment.
 
2022-10-03 10:35:41 AM  

jake3988: Quantumbunny: Ahhh, journalism in 2022.

I would actually like to know the story here, about why the movies keep disappearing, where they are going... What licensing deals keep being made, or why licensing deals made years ago keep affecting it on and off.

But like, the "journalist" might actually have to ask someone at Paramount, and that seems like a lot of effort. So vague guesses and loose talk about other services maybe or maybe not securing licenses or deals or not or bad data entry or a management oopsie or dare I say aliens or even lizard people could be responsible.

Yeah, we can only guess.  But when people don't understand things, they just get angry (see fark threads).  I'm going to assume being angry drives clicks and that makes them revenue?  I dunno.

But yeah, it's annoying.  Most of the time when a movie or something disappears from streaming services it's because of deals made long ago.  And sometimes they're not available on any streaming services because those deals were to cable channels.

Unfortunately until all those deals run out (or are bought out, but that's only going to happen rarely, because), this kind of weirdness is going to continue.

On the other hand, companies themselves would do themselves a service to announce that too.  "Hey, this is going away because of a deal we made 10 years ago before our streaming service was a thing.  But don't worry, the deal is only for a year, they'll return permanently at that point".  Instead of all these angry idiots who claim they're going to commit illegal acts... how about transparency?  If you're transparent about why a movie is disappearing, it'll ease the concerns.  Maybe people will still be annoyed, but at least they'll understand.


Customer Service? Transparency? How DARE you suggest something that take a second's thought, and cost pennies. Those pennies could be profit, damnit.
 
2022-10-03 10:38:14 AM  
So with Paramount+, I can watch "Star Trek: Discovery" and "Picard"?

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2022-10-03 10:40:32 AM  

NeoCortex42: Fano: optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

[Fark user image image 850x1073]

The CGI "improvements " make it feel weird when they are showing a modern version of the Enterprise in front of a glorious CGI planet, and the the camera goes to the interior of the clearly 1960s living room

The CGI for the remaster aged like milk.  It was cool when it first came out, but looked pretty bad even a few years later.  The cleaned up video and audio of the original versions looks outstanding on Blu-Ray, though.  Same with TNG.  It's amazing how good those episodes look now.  It's too bad DS9 will never see similar treatment.


What is sad about the DS9 situation is that even Babylon 5 received a surprise HD remaster last year.

https://www.engadget.com/babylon-5-remastered-hbo-max-digital-download-080058907.html
 
2022-10-03 10:42:23 AM  

no1curr: UberDave: Great, now how am I going to see "Star Trek V; The Final Frontier"?!

YouTube Uhuru's sexy dance and you've watched the best part


That was just weird.
 
2022-10-03 10:44:13 AM  

Mad_Radhu: What is sad about the DS9 situation is that even Babylon 5 received a surprise HD remaster last year.


So Babylon 5 doesn't look like a cut scene from a Sega Genesis game anymore?
 
2022-10-03 10:46:19 AM  
Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.
 
2022-10-03 10:49:10 AM  

stuhayes2010: Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.


Like I said, the Borg one wasn't bad. At least it wasn't riddled with plot holes like Generations and it didn't have Picard driving a dune buggy while Worf gunned down primitive natives like Nemesis.
 
2022-10-03 10:50:57 AM  
,,,,and the Borg queen was strangely hot.
 
2022-10-03 10:52:56 AM  

stuhayes2010: Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.


With the exception of one or two stupid gags, I liked Insurrection because it felt a lot like the show.

Generations was just plain bad, First Contact had good individual performances wrapped in a terrible base idea (changing the Borg from something unique and alien to just another bug race), and Nemesis felt more like a b-movie adaptation of a TNG video game than it did an actual TNG film.
 
2022-10-03 11:14:19 AM  

Mugato: stuhayes2010: Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.

Like I said, the Borg one wasn't bad. At least it wasn't riddled with plot holes like Generations and it didn't have Picard driving a dune buggy while Worf gunned down primitive natives like Nemesis.


Star Trek Nemesis Alternate Ending 1 How it should have ended parody deleted scene
Youtube nvrGEWJryeI
 
2022-10-03 11:16:54 AM  

clkeagle: stuhayes2010: Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.

With the exception of one or two stupid gags, I liked Insurrection because it felt a lot like the show.

Generations was just plain bad, First Contact had good individual performances wrapped in a terrible base idea (changing the Borg from something unique and alien to just another bug race), and Nemesis felt more like a b-movie adaptation of a TNG video game than it did an actual TNG film.


Insurrection committed the grave sin of being boring and completely forgettable.

I could look it up but I'm writing this to challenge myself:  They found the Fountain of Youth.  There was a reference to Gilliam's Brazil with the lady who stapled her face back.  And the bad guy had mommy issues? Also yet another corrupt Admiral in Starfleet.

Picard, as he is known for, swung into action. Kicking names and taking ass. Talk is for losers, things go explode now. The end.
 
2022-10-03 11:28:40 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: clkeagle: stuhayes2010: Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.


Picard, as he is known for, swung into action. Kicking names and taking ass. Talk is for losers, things go explode now. The end.


He sided with the wrong people. Those people were squatting, it wasn't their planet and they refused to share their youth radiation with anyone. Picard sided with them to get some MILF action.
 
2022-10-03 11:31:59 AM  

no1curr: Didn't Paramount produce and distribute them? Seems odd that it wouldn't just be an automatic thing, seeing as both Paramount Pictures and Paramount+ are owned by the same parent company


Just because they are both part of Paramount doesn't mean Paramount Pictures and Paramount+ can't get into a pissing match. Yes, it all ends up in the same pot, but Paramount+ will pay licensing fees to Paramount Pictures and it will affect things like bonuses for people in both subsidiaries. And it would be far from the first time different branches of the same company didn't cooperate.

It could also be that the prior deals that were pulled back still have some restrictions or something or some other aspect of pulling those deals is being challenged and they either had to pull the movies.until that is dealt with or chose to.

Finally, it could be an attempt to generate media buzz when they are removed and later when they are returned to the service.
 
2022-10-03 11:36:11 AM  

LZeitgeist: Brynden Rivers: I don't understand, don't they own those movies??

Yes, they do - and if you don't own them on physical media or hard drive, they can flip-flop their availability to you as much as and whenever they please.


They can be put into or out of the vault at whim. Yet another reason I still have physical media for stuff I really liked.
 
2022-10-03 11:53:31 AM  

optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

[Fark user image image 850x1073]


I can't remember the last time I put in a dvd to watch something.
 
2022-10-03 11:55:19 AM  
It's like they want you to pirate everything.
 
2022-10-03 11:59:39 AM  

Zombie DJ: optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

[Fark user image image 850x1073]

I can't remember the last time I put in a dvd to watch something.


Most Libraries have online services that you can stream. Videos, Audiobooks, eBooks, Music services, etc.
Hoopa is a common service. https://www.hoopladigital.com/
Check your local library website.
 
2022-10-03 12:02:16 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Also yet another corrupt Admiral in Starfleet.


I used to think this was a campy trope, but then I saw General Flynn in the Trump admin, and Doug Mastriano in PA... and, well... it tracks
 
2022-10-03 12:03:56 PM  

Zombie DJ: optikeye: You can get a DVD collection of TOS that has both the 'as the aired' and the 'special edition' CGI crap.
Both versions have been cleaned up for sound remastering and in their original 4:3 format for TV.
zonelink.

[Fark user image image 850x1073]

I can't remember the last time I put in a dvd to watch something.


Watched blazing saddles or captain ron the other week because I couldn't figure out which streaming service I'd bought it on.

/ turns out it was already in the ps4
 
2022-10-03 12:08:29 PM  

SVC_conservative: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Also yet another corrupt Admiral in Starfleet.

I used to think this was a campy trope, but then I saw General Flynn in the Trump admin, and Doug Mastriano in PA... and, well... it tracks


Sure, but the running gag I'm speaking to is that Roddenbery insisted that Starfleet was a near-perfect, benevolent organization and insisted that it was above corruption. In fact, it was forbidden to have interpersonal conflict amongst Starfleet according to the Writer's Bible.

But he kept writing in insane Commodores and crazy Admirals to give Kirk some dilemmas. And then of course it kept going after Gene's death. Seems that anyone with a desk job in Starfleet are crooks.
 
2022-10-03 12:11:28 PM  

BizarreMan: UberDave: Great, now how am I going to see "Star Trek V; The Final Frontier"?!

Just close your eyes and imagine why god needs a starship.


The thighs that launched a thousand starships.
 
2022-10-03 12:20:46 PM  

Mugato: Mad_Radhu: What is sad about the DS9 situation is that even Babylon 5 received a surprise HD remaster last year.

So Babylon 5 doesn't look like a cut scene from a Sega Genesis game anymore?


It looked amazing at the time and they were operating on a tiny budget (all five years of B5 cost less than the first season of DS9). Space ships looked like (and flew) like space ships. Ships actually broke apart when destroyed - not replaced by a visual effect of an explosion. By 2000 the effects definitely felt dated, but in 1993 they were excellent.
 
2022-10-03 12:27:14 PM  

Mugato: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: clkeagle: stuhayes2010: Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.


Picard, as he is known for, swung into action. Kicking names and taking ass. Talk is for losers, things go explode now. The end.

He sided with the wrong people. Those people were squatting, it wasn't their planet and they refused to share their youth radiation with anyone. Picard sided with them to get some MILF action.


It seemed to be the usual TNG arbitrarily constructed moral argument, the one where shiat goes down and suddenly Picard wants to be hard ass on letting the entire universe die so as to preserve the Prime Directive from bullshiat the Federation allowed to start with.
 
2022-10-03 12:37:03 PM  

Fano: Mugato: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: clkeagle: stuhayes2010: Is there a good TNG movie worth rewatching?  Loved the series, movies were all bad.  TOS, was meh about the series loved all the (even numbered) movies.


Picard, as he is known for, swung into action. Kicking names and taking ass. Talk is for losers, things go explode now. The end.

He sided with the wrong people. Those people were squatting, it wasn't their planet and they refused to share their youth radiation with anyone. Picard sided with them to get some MILF action.

It seemed to be the usual TNG arbitrarily constructed moral argument, the one where shiat goes down and suddenly Picard wants to be hard ass on letting the entire universe die so as to preserve the Prime Directive from bullshiat the Federation allowed to start with.


I can't believe you guys are making me defend that crap movie's premise *shakes head*
BUT, the Ba'ku settled on the world before the UFP was even founded.
Are humans squatters in every settlement or colony at that time?
F*ck outta my face with the squatter nonsense.
 
2022-10-03 12:39:53 PM  

SVC_conservative: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Also yet another corrupt Admiral in Starfleet.

I used to think this was a campy trope, but then I saw General Flynn in the Trump admin, and Doug Mastriano in PA... and, well... it tracks


Even Kirk was a dick when he was a new admiral in the first movie
 
2022-10-03 12:39:59 PM  

Rev.K: I'm really impressed that all these separate streaming services are such an easy and convenient alternative to cable or satellite TV.

All...well, mostly all...a good chunk...a decent amount of my favorite TV shows and movies across 7 different streaming services all with their own monthly fee.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get my separate sports streams all with their own monthly fee.


It's to the point that I'm considering getting my digital media the old fashioned way... TPB.
 
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