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(Variety)   Straight people in flyover states should go earn their Gay Rom-Com merit badge according to guy with financial stake in film   (variety.com) divider line
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2022-10-03 10:56:18 AM  
I for one am shocked, SHOCKED, that a film with a marketing campaign that heavily featured the lines:
"Do you guys remember straight people?"
"Yeah, they had a nice run."
Didn't appeal more to straight audiences?!?!

Also, there are approximately 11 million LGBTQ+ adult individuals in the US. Based on the opening weekend revenue, Bros. couldn't even get a 10th of them to show up. So maybe we shouldn't be blaming the straights until all the gays go and see it.

/Saw it Saturday, found it to be funny, charming, tame and wildly full of its own self-importance
//All the funniest parts are directly aimed at the white gay male demographic
///Maybe people just don't like Billy
 
2022-10-03 10:58:39 AM  
Well, really, it's more of a Shelbyvillefilm....
 
2022-10-03 10:59:03 AM  
Billy Eichner is entertaining in small doses, like his character on Parks & Rec.

Feature length Billy Eichner sounds exhausting
 
2022-10-03 10:59:20 AM  

This Honkey Grandma Be Trippin': I for one am shocked, SHOCKED, that a film with a marketing campaign that heavily featured the lines:
"Do you guys remember straight people?"
"Yeah, they had a nice run."
Didn't appeal more to straight audiences?!?!

Also, there are approximately 11 million LGBTQ+ adult individuals in the US. Based on the opening weekend revenue, Bros. couldn't even get a 10th of them to show up. So maybe we shouldn't be blaming the straights until all the gays go and see it.

/Saw it Saturday, found it to be funny, charming, tame and wildly full of its own self-importance
//All the funniest parts are directly aimed at the white gay male demographic
///Maybe people just don't like Billy


It doesn't help that the film isn't being carried by an actual gay star. Methinks Billy got in his own way.
 
2022-10-03 11:01:28 AM  
I find Billy hilarious, but I do not watch romantic comedies, which is why I did not see it.
 
2022-10-03 11:02:29 AM  

This Honkey Grandma Be Trippin': Also, there are approximately 11 million LGBTQ+ adult individuals in the US. Based on the opening weekend revenue,


There is some evidence that an absolutely staggering chunk of Gen Z considers itself something other than straight. Possibly 20% or more.

Unfortunately, a huge chunk of Gen Z is also getting killed on inflation and crap wages and a comedy romance isn't going to be a draw to a movie theater that a special effects epic might be.

There's an audience for this, but it probably won't find it until it shows up on streaming.
 
2022-10-03 11:03:16 AM  
I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.
 
2022-10-03 11:04:57 AM  
RomCom centered on 40 year old white dudes
fails to attract wide audience, Ric Romero has more at 11.
 
2022-10-03 11:05:26 AM  
Hi. I'm straight people in a flyover state. I used to like romantic comedies but then I grew old and died inside. That this particular romantic comedy is gay doesn't inspire me to see it any more than it would if the stars were whatever this years iteration of the Hollywood It Couple.

/Is Gosling still a thing?
//What about that Jennifer lady?
///Not her, the other one
 
2022-10-03 11:06:05 AM  
I just wonder why he ever thought this would be a bigger success. If there isn't explosions and lasers and shiat, people don't really opt for a big screen and ear bleeding volume. It should be successful on streaming.
 
2022-10-03 11:07:22 AM  
Is it any good? Years ago, there wasn't as much mainstream openly LGBTQ film out there so we had to suffer through some dreck (I'm looking at you, Better Than Chocolate). Now with more content, it's possible to be more discerning.
 
2022-10-03 11:09:08 AM  
Ok so I RTFA: If I don't see the movie I'm a homophobic weirdo? What am I supposed to do with all these Playbills and my pro-LGBT voting record? Shove them up my ass?
 
2022-10-03 11:09:41 AM  

iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.


 Henry and Glenn hip hop reboot?

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2022-10-03 11:09:55 AM  
I sat through Power of the Dog. I've done my bit.
 
2022-10-03 11:12:20 AM  

blackminded: Hi. I'm straight people in a flyover state. I used to like romantic comedies but then I grew old and died inside. That this particular romantic comedy is gay doesn't inspire me to see it any more than it would if the stars were whatever this years iteration of the Hollywood It Couple.

/Is Gosling still a thing?
//What about that Jennifer lady?
///Not her, the other one


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2022-10-03 11:12:50 AM  

iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.


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2022-10-03 11:13:09 AM  

Klivian: Billy Eichner is entertaining in small doses, like his character on Parks & Rec.

Feature length Billy Eichner sounds exhausting


He even got to be a bit much on Parks and Rec.

He was good on Difficult People.

Never struck me as a leading actor though and this movie looks like dog shiat, as do most RomComs.
 
2022-10-03 11:14:33 AM  

iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.


I would watch the shiat out of that.
 
2022-10-03 11:17:26 AM  

zbtop: RomCom centered on 40 year old  RICH white dudes
fails to attract wide audience, Ric Romero has more at 11.


Yeah, I couldn't shake the "yuppie scum" vibe from the trailers/ads. There was a town in the Bay Area (Emeryville, I think) that was hostile to setting up a gayborhood b/c they were afraid of the gentrification/rent hikes. (In hindsight, the gentrification/rent hikes were going to come, straight or gay, no matter what they tried).
 
2022-10-03 11:18:47 AM  

iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.


Supernatural mysteries, or Scooby Doo supernatural mysteries?
 
2022-10-03 11:19:33 AM  

lindalouwho: iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.

I would watch the shiat out of that.


Any show description that ends with a variation of "and together they solve crimes," is a yes from me.
 
2022-10-03 11:21:46 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: I sat through Power of the Dog. I've done my bit.


The Power of the Dog was so awful if someone called it Gay Cinema and I was gay, I'd punch that person in the mouth.

Also, I don't know why Billy Eichner though people were going to come out in force for a gay romantic comedy in 2022. This movie has streaming written all over it. 3,300 theaters? That's Marvel territory. People wouldn't come out to see "When Harry met Sally" these days.
 
2022-10-03 11:22:22 AM  

Shelbyraed: lindalouwho: iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.

I would watch the shiat out of that.

Any show description that ends with a variation of "and together they solve crimes," is a yes from me.


And they'll rap/rhyme the clues!
 
2022-10-03 11:24:02 AM  

blackminded: Ok so I RTFA: If I don't see the movie I'm a homophobic weirdo? What am I supposed to do with all these Playbills and my pro-LGBT voting record? Shove them up my ass?


You may have RTFA, but I don't think you necessarily comprehended it.

He's saying if you aren't homophobic weirdo then you should go see it.
 
2022-10-03 11:24:58 AM  
Not every script is written for me. In addition to not watching Bros, I have also never watched Paw Patrol, Bring It On, or any DC superhero movie. This does not make me a homophobic weirdo.
 
2022-10-03 11:25:51 AM  
Has anyone directly involved in a film tried not blaming the audience for their failure?
 
2022-10-03 11:27:35 AM  
RomComs tend to not do super well at the box office these days. I honestly can't think of the last one which made a ton of money.

Okay, I just looked it up. In 2015, Trainwreck did $110 million at the box office (26th highest grossing RomCom of all time). What Men Want in 2019 did $54 million. Nothing released in the past 3 years is in the top 100 grossing RomComs of all time and only about 4 from 2018 and 2019 made the list, all grossing about $50 million, give or take.
 
2022-10-03 11:27:54 AM  

lindalouwho: Shelbyraed: lindalouwho: iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.

I would watch the shiat out of that.

Any show description that ends with a variation of "and together they solve crimes," is a yes from me.

And they'll rap/rhyme the clues!


Biggie Biggie Biggie can't you see, the old caretaker was the zombie.
 
2022-10-03 11:27:58 AM  

Trocadero: iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.

Supernatural mysteries, or Scooby Doo supernatural mysteries?


I'm thinking part a little less campy Scooby Doo and part Mr. Rogers. And there can be guest stars, especially from the first generation of rap and hip-hop. I don't want to go the Supernatural route because that limits the audience.
 
2022-10-03 11:30:53 AM  
There are a fair number of LGBTQ+ rom coms out there on streaming services, especially Netflix.  It isn't clear to me why people should be paying for a movie ticket for this one instead of just watching one of them.

The implication in the article seems to be that this is an Important Film, but I'm just not seeing that.  It looks like a trite POS to me.  There are a sizeable number of better regarded LGBTQ rom coms out there now, and a lot of them aren't about old rich white dudes.
 
2022-10-03 11:32:31 AM  

meanmutton: RomComs tend to not do super well at the box office these days. I honestly can't think of the last one which made a ton of money.

Okay, I just looked it up. In 2015, Trainwreck did $110 million at the box office (26th highest grossing RomCom of all time). What Men Want in 2019 did $54 million. Nothing released in the past 3 years is in the top 100 grossing RomComs of all time and only about 4 from 2018 and 2019 made the list, all grossing about $50 million, give or take.


I was just looking it up too.

Crazy Rich Asians is the exception.  Billy Eichner thought he was making a Crazy Rich Asians.  He was wrong.
 
2022-10-03 11:32:43 AM  
Do any romcoms do well as theatrical releases in recent years?
 
2022-10-03 11:33:53 AM  
Please assume correct subject-verb agreement in my previous post. Thank you, and have a nice day.
 
2022-10-03 11:35:10 AM  

blackminded: Hi. I'm straight people in a flyover state. I used to like romantic comedies but then I grew old and died inside. That this particular romantic comedy is gay doesn't inspire me to see it any more than it would if the stars were whatever this years iteration of the Hollywood It Couple.

/Is Gosling still a thing?
//What about that Jennifer lady?
///Not her, the other one


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2022-10-03 11:35:46 AM  
Might have been more successful a few years back, like when Sex and the City was a big deal.  Back then, a lot of white chicks loved having a gay best friend/pet to show off to their other yenta friends.

Now that gay content and gay people are far more integrated into society, promoting something as "gay" isn't a driving draw.
 
2022-10-03 11:38:29 AM  

Spartapuss: lindalouwho: Shelbyraed: lindalouwho: iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.

I would watch the shiat out of that.

Any show description that ends with a variation of "and together they solve crimes," is a yes from me.

And they'll rap/rhyme the clues!

Biggie Biggie Biggie can't you see, the old caretaker was the zombie.


Tupac, Tupac, you're so right
You always make the whole thing tight.
 
2022-10-03 11:39:52 AM  
From listening to him on Conan's podcast, it seemed like he was hoping that it would bring back romcoms in general. That is a tall order. Like hoping a western would be a smash hit and return the genre to its glory days. Even if it was the best farking western ever made, it would probably still do mediocre at the box office.
 
2022-10-03 11:44:28 AM  

Ty Webb: This does not make me a homophobic weirdo.


No one's claiming that.


Squid_for_Brains: Has anyone directly involved in a film tried not blaming the audience for their failure?


When a film performs poorly in its opening weekend despite positive critical acclaim and what seemed to be a big marketing push, then what else do you blame?

I feel like most are just misreading the quotes from the article.

I like Eichner in small doses, but he can be a bit much.  I have no idea if his character in the film is less manic. He just sounds disappointed in the box office performance.
 
2022-10-03 11:46:40 AM  
I don't think I've paid for a straight rom-com in 25 years.
 
2022-10-03 11:47:50 AM  
The only Rom-Com I like is 'Just Friends'.  I'm glad my wife isn't super into those types of movies.
 
2022-10-03 11:52:58 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Ty Webb: This does not make me a homophobic weirdo.

No one's claiming that.



Are you sure about that? Is that your final answer?

FTFA:

"That's just the world we live in, unfortunately," Eichner continued. "Even with glowing reviews, great Rotten Tomatoes scores, an A CinemaScore, etc., straight people, especially in certain parts of the country, just didn't show up for Bros. And that's disappointing but it is what it is."

Eichner concluded his thoughts by encouraging "everyone who isn't a homophobic weirdo" to see "Bros," writing that it remains "special and uniquely powerful to see this particular story on a big screen."
 
2022-10-03 11:54:08 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: I feel like most are just misreading the quotes from the article.


Article? Everything I need to know about his movie is written in headline
 
2022-10-03 11:54:51 AM  
Couldn't make it this past weekend, seeing it this coming Saturday.

/straight guy
 
2022-10-03 11:55:10 AM  

Calehedron: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Ty Webb: This does not make me a homophobic weirdo.

No one's claiming that.


Are you sure about that? Is that your final answer?

FTFA:

"That's just the world we live in, unfortunately," Eichner continued. "Even with glowing reviews, great Rotten Tomatoes scores, an A CinemaScore, etc., straight people, especially in certain parts of the country, just didn't show up for Bros. And that's disappointing but it is what it is."

Eichner concluded his thoughts by encouraging "everyone who isn't a homophobic weirdo" to see "Bros," writing that it remains "special and uniquely powerful to see this particular story on a big screen."


Yeah, you should read it again.  If you need help, I can try to explain it to you.
 
2022-10-03 11:55:11 AM  

blackminded: Ok so I RTFA: If I don't see the movie I'm a homophobic weirdo?


These days if you say you're straight, you get arrested and thrown in jail
 
2022-10-03 11:59:22 AM  

LewDux: blackminded: Ok so I RTFA: If I don't see the movie I'm a homophobic weirdo?

These days if you say you're straight, you get arrested and thrown in jail


Yeah straight people are being persecuted and stuff.
 
2022-10-03 12:00:16 PM  

lindalouwho: Spartapuss: lindalouwho: Shelbyraed: lindalouwho: iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.

I would watch the shiat out of that.

Any show description that ends with a variation of "and together they solve crimes," is a yes from me.

And they'll rap/rhyme the clues!

Biggie Biggie Biggie can't you see, the old caretaker was the zombie.

Tupac, Tupac, you're so right
You always make the whole thing tight.


I would so watch this... unfortunately, I can't see Tupac or Biggie's estates ever allowing it to go forward
 
2022-10-03 12:00:44 PM  

Marcos P: iheartscotch: I actually have an idea for a sitcom / romcom.

It's set in the fictional town of Connecticut, Vermont. The main characters are Tupac and Biggie. They are not dead. They got relocated through witness protection. They are gay married, own a series of bed and breakfasts and solve mysteries.

 Henry and Glenn hip hop reboot?

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My Blue Heaven

I Blew Heaven
 
2022-10-03 12:03:07 PM  

browntimmy: From listening to him on Conan's podcast, it seemed like he was hoping that it would bring back romcoms in general. That is a tall order. Like hoping a western would be a smash hit and return the genre to its glory days. Even if it was the best farking western ever made, it would probably still do mediocre at the box office.


The Conan podcast really put this film into perspective in terms of how Billy regards it. It's a passion project nd for good reason: Most of his career he was told no one wanted to see a gay romcom. Unfortunately, the box office numbers aren't helping, although, as other upthread have mentioned, it will probably do well on streaming. I get that finally getting to make a film that's pretty tame by most metrics, but outside of a "viable demographic" is important, and why shouldn't there be gay romcoms? But yeah, you make a pigeonhole movie in a pigeonhole genre and of course it's not gonna be a smash worldwide hit.
 
2022-10-03 12:03:29 PM  
It's also produced by Judd Apatow, so it's probably way longer than it has to be, with the second half bogged down by melodrama.
 
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