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(Guardian)   Over 100 years of climate change reporting. But remember, this information was covered up by big business and politicians. If only people had been capable of reading   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2022-10-03 12:33:47 PM  
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It's a Hoax
 
2022-10-03 12:37:55 PM  
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2022-10-03 12:53:59 PM  
1890! Wow.

The Guardian is one of the few news organizations I trust.
 
2022-10-03 12:54:52 PM  
When I was just starting out in IT, we had a saying:

"Over 90% of the problems that people have with computers are caused by the simple fact that people cannot read."  (Note that this does not distinguish between IT people and end users.)

My addendum to this observation:

"Of the people who *can* read, over 90% of them cannot *think*."

As I have lived my life, I have become convinced that this is a more general phenomenon, and is not in the least limited to the field of computers.

(I myself am certainly not exempt from these observations.  Everyone is an idiot at least once a day.  The trick is to not exceed your quota.)
 
2022-10-03 1:00:47 PM  
Maybe more people would get the message these days if it wasn't hidden behind a paywall
 
2022-10-03 1:33:03 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: When I was just starting out in IT, we had a saying:

"Over 90% of the problems that people have with computers are caused by the simple fact that people cannot read."  (Note that this does not distinguish between IT people and end users.)

My addendum to this observation:

"Of the people who *can* read, over 90% of them cannot *think*."

As I have lived my life, I have become convinced that this is a more general phenomenon, and is not in the least limited to the field of computers.

(I myself am certainly not exempt from these observations.  Everyone is an idiot at least once a day.  The trick is to not exceed your quota.)


A good chunk of my job is highlighting the relevant areas of error logs and sending the ticket back to the programmers. I was advised to not include the word obviously in the phrase "this is obviously not a network issue" on the tickets.
 
2022-10-03 2:10:26 PM  
The most effective tactic used by fossil fuel interests wasn't covering up information. It was muddying the waters to stave off action.
 
2022-10-03 2:12:32 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: When I was just starting out in IT, we had a saying:

"Over 90% of the problems that people have with computers are caused by the simple fact that people cannot read."  (Note that this does not distinguish between IT people and end users.)

My addendum to this observation:

"Of the people who *can* read, over 90% of them cannot *think*."


Back in the dim, dark days of the 90s, my (now) ex-wife and I would help noobs get online via our BBS.  Our welcome screen had a "Press [Enter] to continue" prompt at the bottom, and without fail everyone would sit there and stare at the screen for at least a minute before saying, "What should I do?"  "What does it tell you to do?" "It says press enter to continue."  "So what do you think you should do?"  "Press enter to continue?"  And after 20+ years of working in IT myself, I've seen endless variations of that.

As for the "paywall" that others have mentioned, a single click eliminates it.

They're right, of course.  Though I'm not old enough to have seen it, LBJ mentioned climate change in at least one of his speeches.  The CIA had a report focused on climate change in 1974, relating it to global political instability.  I learned about it in middle and high school in the late 70s/early 80s, long before the topic became polarized.  I remember seeing it in newspapers throughout the 80s, along with publications aimed at the general public, like National Geographic.  Though it's considered a bit of a clunker, 1995's Waterworld is all about a world in which all of the ice caps have melted due to climate change.  And I've been on Fark long enough to remember that climate change was a regularly discussed topic 20+ years ago, when we still may have had an opportunity to avoid what's coming.

It was there all along, staring us in the face in various forms.  No one cared, at least not enough to change, because the changes in the climate were mild compared to what they are now.
 
2022-10-03 2:19:22 PM  
You know what the Hearst Family wants you to know.  You don't know what they don't want you to know.
Kidnapped Patty out front shoulda told ya.
 
2022-10-03 4:20:51 PM  
Fifty years ago, people were talking about smog and greenhouse gases. Then they cleaned up the smog, and we stopped worrying about it.

Most of us, anyway. When there's a small group of protestors waving signs way over there, it's easy to ignore them.

Climate change is a subtle problem. You have to educate the public. You can't do that properly when the oil companies are diseducating the public with denial garbage. They set up their own group of protestors waving signs, but they were louder and better organized.

Our civilization is on track to wipe itself out. Snarky headlines aren't helping.
 
2022-10-04 10:59:33 AM  

Russell_Secord: You can't do that properly when the oil companies are diseducating the public with denial garbage.
Our civilization is on track to wipe itself out. Snarky headlines aren't helping.


You know what else isn't helping?  Parroting the exact thing that subby's headline was mocking, the kind of comments Farkers have been making for 20 years.

The people who believed the climate denialism are the people who wanted to believe it.  They're no different than the people who believed the denialism spread by big tobacco, who preferred to believe the peddlers of poison over the scientists, including the Surgeon General.  Smokers believed it because it told them it was okay to continue smoking, and most of them found out the hard way just how stupid they were (including the late Leonard Nimoy).

And it all comes down to health.  Whether it comes down to the health of the individual or the health of the planet, the vast majority of people don't care -- until they lose it.  And then they do the exact same thing, look for someone to blame, which never seems to involve looking in the nearest mirror.  When it comes to individual health in the US, we blame our for-profit healthcare system, yet 75% of our pre-pandemic healthcare dollars were spent on conditions that are usually preventable.  We didn't care about the health we were ruining, until it was ruined.  Same with climate change.  We blame big business "lies" and inaction of politicians, while almost everyone was engaging in the very activities that are the root cause -- overconsumption.
 
2022-10-05 1:19:57 AM  

Colonel_Angus: Russell_Secord: You can't do that properly when the oil companies are diseducating the public with denial garbage.
Our civilization is on track to wipe itself out. Snarky headlines aren't helping.

You know what else isn't helping?  Parroting the exact thing that subby's headline was mocking, the kind of comments Farkers have been making for 20 years.

The people who believed the climate denialism are the people who wanted to believe it.  They're no different than the people who believed the denialism spread by big tobacco, who preferred to believe the peddlers of poison over the scientists, including the Surgeon General.  Smokers believed it because it told them it was okay to continue smoking, and most of them found out the hard way just how stupid they were (including the late Leonard Nimoy).

And it all comes down to health.  Whether it comes down to the health of the individual or the health of the planet, the vast majority of people don't care -- until they lose it.  And then they do the exact same thing, look for someone to blame, which never seems to involve looking in the nearest mirror.  When it comes to individual health in the US, we blame our for-profit healthcare system, yet 75% of our pre-pandemic healthcare dollars were spent on conditions that are usually preventable.  We didn't care about the health we were ruining, until it was ruined.  Same with climate change.  We blame big business "lies" and inaction of politicians, while almost everyone was engaging in the very activities that are the root cause -- overconsumption.


I'll drink to that.
 
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