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(Forbes)   Just like the MAGAs, who seem to have a stiffy for Russia, actual Russians must be getting tired of winning   (forbes.com) divider line
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4988 clicks; posted to Main » on 03 Oct 2022 at 7:30 AM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-03 5:34:17 AM  
Nah, it's not 'murder' it's the opportunity to sacrifice themselves to free up units WITH training to watch the homeland in case the serfs get restless. Totally different. These are people who were going to drink themselves to death or come to horrible ends with a cellphone in their hand and driving with their knees on icy roads while trying to verify if they had the 'good' kind of krokodil. Really, the government is doing them a service by getting them the Hell out of the country.
 
2022-10-03 6:45:42 AM  
Sometimes your lot in life is to serve as a reminder to never let a right-wing psychopath take over your country--at all costs.
 
2022-10-03 7:40:43 AM  
Have they started with one rifle for every two soldiers thing like they did in Stalingrad?
 
2022-10-03 7:41:20 AM  
There are merely the regular conscripts.  Once Russia calls up the elite conscripts, then Ukraine is in big trouble.
 
2022-10-03 7:45:21 AM  
The one with the rifle shoots.  When he gets killed, the one behind him picks up the rifle and shoots.

What more training do you need?
(probably screwed up that line but it's been a while since I've seen Enemy at the gates)
 
2022-10-03 7:45:44 AM  
Russia needs to be recruiting top notch military leaders like Oath Keepers to lead their troops into battle.  They have experience trying to topple a government and they even have their own uniforms.  We'll swap you six of them Britney Griner.
 
2022-10-03 7:46:54 AM  
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2022-10-03 7:51:47 AM  

freidog: The one with the rifle shoots.  When he gets killed, the one behind him picks up the rifle and shoots.

What more training do you need?
(probably screwed up that line but it's been a while since I've seen Enemy at the gates)


The full sequence is:

The one with the rifle shoots! One out of two gets a rifle. The one without follows him! When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots! <it repeats a bit from there>
 
2022-10-03 7:53:52 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: freidog: The one with the rifle shoots.  When he gets killed, the one behind him picks up the rifle and shoots.

What more training do you need?
(probably screwed up that line but it's been a while since I've seen Enemy at the gates)

The full sequence is:

The one with the rifle shoots! One out of two gets a rifle. The one without follows him! When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots! <it repeats a bit from there>


It's more or less a film-ism though from all accounts.  While they did strip some of their back line units and leave them armed with pistols and such due to shortages, front line soldiers almost always did have rifles and reasonable amounts of ammunition unless they were cut off from all supply
 
2022-10-03 7:54:08 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: [Fark user image 425x425]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD


MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!
 
2022-10-03 7:54:55 AM  
Guys wait are these "country" things just historical accidents that no one should die for?
 
2022-10-03 8:01:37 AM  

Whiskey Dharma: Guys wait are these "country" things just historical accidents that no one should die for?


No
 
2022-10-03 8:03:30 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: Have they started with one rifle for every two soldiers thing like they did in Stalingrad?


What rifles?
 
2022-10-03 8:05:09 AM  
Does anyone have the meme of the russian mother who is dressing her little boy in his army uniform and says to the crying kid "Don't worry i'm going to have more children".
 
2022-10-03 8:07:57 AM  
Hopefully they start pulling from the MAGAt pool some time soon. Would be cool if I could have one weekend where I don't have to feel like I'm living in a warzone because Muh Rights™ and Freedumbz. They're acting like rabid animals that need to be put down.
 
2022-10-03 8:10:14 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: Have they started with one rifle for every two soldiers thing like they did in Stalingrad?


No. They all get their own rifle. Whether it's capable of shooting or not is up for grabs.
 
2022-10-03 8:10:24 AM  
It's not JUST murder. It is the actively creating a situation in which war crimes are almost guaranteed to occur.
 
2022-10-03 8:10:52 AM  
https://twitter.com/mrkovalenko/status/1576748568404074498?s=46&t=2eGRmCn3GDMHvvfeWwIdng

Russian basic training is just trying to survive in a bombed out forest just with no weapons, food, or even warm clothing, using just what you have on hand, which makes it absolutely perfect for the modern Russian army.
 
2022-10-03 8:14:04 AM  

Diocletian's Last Cabbage: brainlordmesomorph: Have they started with one rifle for every two soldiers thing like they did in Stalingrad?

What rifles?


This. They sold all the rifles. My 85 year old Nagant probably needs to be oiled. Last time I oiled her...Obama was president.
 
2022-10-03 8:15:41 AM  
MTG, Tucker, and Cruz need to report to duty before their homeland is destroyed. They're Vlad's only hope.
 
2022-10-03 8:16:43 AM  
"The nukes are all I have left."
 
2022-10-03 8:18:04 AM  

bighairyguy: Russia needs to be recruiting top notch military leaders like Oath Keepers to lead their troops into battle.  They have experience trying to topple a government and they even have their own uniforms.  We'll swap you six of them Britney Griner.


Only 6? I will offer 600 for her and 100 for any other imprisoned American there.
 
2022-10-03 8:19:13 AM  

Rapmaster2000: There are merely the regular conscripts.  Once Russia calls up the elite conscripts, then Ukraine is in big trouble.


I still believe Putin is buying time for the army of Putin clones to ripen so he can unleash them in Ukraine.
 
2022-10-03 8:25:45 AM  
Conscripts die or surrender. They die, one less mouth to feed. If the surrender then the Ukraine has to divert resources to guard, feed an house.
 
2022-10-03 8:27:38 AM  
I'm beginning to think Putin hasn't thought his cunning plan all the way through...
 
2022-10-03 8:33:19 AM  

Majin_Buu: Hopefully they start pulling from the MAGAt pool some time soon. Would be cool if I could have one weekend where I don't have to feel like I'm living in a warzone because Muh Rights™ and Freedumbz. They're acting like rabid animals that need to be put down.


I hope you are looking in the mirror while saying this.

Absolute tool you are.
 
2022-10-03 8:38:22 AM  
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2022-10-03 8:42:24 AM  

mrinfoguy: Majin_Buu: Hopefully they start pulling from the MAGAt pool some time soon. Would be cool if I could have one weekend where I don't have to feel like I'm living in a warzone because Muh Rights™ and Freedumbz. They're acting like rabid animals that need to be put down.

I hope you are looking in the mirror while saying this.

Absolute tool you are.


I'm not for calling any group animals, since dehumanizing helps make it easier to do terrible things, but the rest of it?

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They're around the right age to get conscripted and fight with two days' training.  Hell, they probably have more experience with a variety of firearms than a Russian conscript, though their AR-15s will be in much better shape.
 
2022-10-03 8:58:15 AM  
This is probably the first time in the story that normally racist MAGA has felt solidarity and identity with the mostly Asian soldiers, drafted from Turkic speaking and Muslim, Budhist, etc stretches and "-stans" of the former Soviet Empire.

Except for that other time, when the extremely white, extremely conservative, homophobic, gynophobic wing of Episcopalians broke off to become "Special Anglicans®" and had to search Africa for an extremely black, extremely conservative to be their guide and shepherd.

Borat sends his love.
 
2022-10-03 9:07:53 AM  

Rapmaster2000: There are merely the regular conscripts.  Once Russia calls up the elite conscripts, then Ukraine is in big trouble.


Anyone Russia calls "elite" means that they survived 30 days on the front lines in Ukraine.
 
2022-10-03 9:13:00 AM  
Have they started conscripting men and women age 45 and older? Because they're the ones who put Putin in power.
 
2022-10-03 9:18:49 AM  
This is the country we feared and built a massive military industrial complex to combat.
It was called the cold war, or a blank check to military anything.
We (the commoners) got scammed again.
 
2022-10-03 9:23:50 AM  

groppet: bighairyguy: Russia needs to be recruiting top notch military leaders like Oath Keepers to lead their troops into battle.  They have experience trying to topple a government and they even have their own uniforms.  We'll swap you six of them for Britney Griner.

Only 6? I will offer 600 for her and 100 for any other imprisoned American there.


That's just my negotiation starting point.  I'd be working up them throwing in a superyacht.
 
2022-10-03 9:27:11 AM  

MIRV888: This is the country we feared and built a massive military industrial complex to combat.
It was called the cold war, or a blank check to military anything.
We (the commoners) got scammed again.


Yes we did get scammed, but notice that the people who are against the west helping Ukraine are the very same people that foreclosed an entire generation building weapons of war against Russia in the 80s and opted for oil companies and perpetual low intensity conflict to protect their inverted Totalitarian system rather than making actual geopolitical changes and troop deployments that would change things for the better.
 
2022-10-03 9:54:52 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: mrinfoguy: Majin_Buu: Hopefully they start pulling from the MAGAt pool some time soon. Would be cool if I could have one weekend where I don't have to feel like I'm living in a warzone because Muh Rights™ and Freedumbz. They're acting like rabid animals that need to be put down.

I hope you are looking in the mirror while saying this.

Absolute tool you are.

I'm not for calling any group animals, since dehumanizing helps make it easier to do terrible things, but the rest of it?

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They're around the right age to get conscripted and fight with two days' training.  Hell, they probably have more experience with a variety of firearms than a Russian conscript, though their AR-15s will be in much better shape.


It's nice they found each other.
 
2022-10-03 10:09:14 AM  
OK, so we know that Russia is a paper tiger and tanks have gone the way of the battleship but where are the million active soldiers and two million reservists?  Ukraine kills 1/20th of their armed forces and 1/5th of their tanks and they are scraping the congealed flen off the rims of mayonnaise jars to throw in front of Ukraine? 

We had a 1:8 tooth to tail ratio in Iraq.  That T3 ratio would give Russia 111,111 active combatants and 222,222 reserve combatants.  More likely, Russia went to war with something similar to our Cold War T3 of 1:14 or 71,500 combatants, which includes troops on other borders.

This makes their conscription fiasco all the more perplexing.  They should have another 10,000-50,000 active combatants and another 140,000 trained combatants in reserve before calling up untrained meat.  If I was Russia, I'd be pulling every active combatant, including SPs, MPs, and marines, from the Kola Peninsula to the Kiril Islands to fight and backfill them with reservists.  If I was China, I'd mobilize a million men towards the Russian frontier to scare Putin into capitulation.
 
2022-10-03 10:28:09 AM  
Putting a barely trained man on the front line worker great in The Edge of Tomorrow/live. Die. Repeat.
 
2022-10-03 10:37:20 AM  

Halfabee64: OK, so we know that Russia is a paper tiger and tanks have gone the way of the battleship but where are the million active soldiers and two million reservists?  Ukraine kills 1/20th of their armed forces and 1/5th of their tanks and they are scraping the congealed flen off the rims of mayonnaise jars to throw in front of Ukraine? 

We had a 1:8 tooth to tail ratio in Iraq.  That T3 ratio would give Russia 111,111 active combatants and 222,222 reserve combatants.  More likely, Russia went to war with something similar to our Cold War T3 of 1:14 or 71,500 combatants, which includes troops on other borders.

This makes their conscription fiasco all the more perplexing.  They should have another 10,000-50,000 active combatants and another 140,000 trained combatants in reserve before calling up untrained meat.  If I was Russia, I'd be pulling every active combatant, including SPs, MPs, and marines, from the Kola Peninsula to the Kiril Islands to fight and backfill them with reservists.  If I was China, I'd mobilize a million men towards the Russian frontier to scare Putin into capitulation.


The aftermath of this war is going to be ugly.  Russia was always too big and too diverse to manage as single political entity but the government's complete ineptness in Ukraine is now going to spawn a thousand little rebellions all throughout the country.  And yes, bordering states like China are going to see opportunity everywhere.
 
2022-10-03 10:42:00 AM  
If we send the MAGAts to Russia, and they send them to the front lines, they'll piss and shiat themselves as they're running away from the fight.

Or get themselves killed.

Either way, nothing of value will be lost.
 
2022-10-03 10:51:45 AM  

mrinfoguy: Majin_Buu: Hopefully they start pulling from the MAGAt pool some time soon. Would be cool if I could have one weekend where I don't have to feel like I'm living in a warzone because Muh Rights™ and Freedumbz. They're acting like rabid animals that need to be put down.

I hope you are looking in the mirror while saying this.

Absolute tool you are.


It's amazing the bullshiat the shills will post to keep from being drafted.
 
2022-10-03 11:14:00 AM  
Putin is getting Ukrainians and his non-white serfs to kill each other and taking the opportunity to kidnap hundreds of thousands of women and children in order to lighten up Russia. Sounds like that part of the plan is going very, very well.
 
2022-10-03 11:14:17 AM  
Tank boy!
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2022-10-03 11:25:34 AM  
Can someone explain to me why MAGAs seem to still have a hard on for Russia?  Is it the bullying thing, the anti gay thing?   Can't be the migrant thing or they'd feel the same about Japan lol.

/confused
 
2022-10-03 11:36:27 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: [Fark user image 425x425]

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"He can have yours."

/ How Khorney can you get?
 
2022-10-03 11:39:12 AM  

Smoking GNU: kittyhas1000legs: [Fark user image 425x425]

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MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!


World-eaters?

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2022-10-03 11:40:09 AM  

Whiskey Dharma: Guys wait are these "country" things just historical accidents that no one should die for?


Shhhh.  Let them kill each other off, then we can take over the world.
 
2022-10-03 11:43:19 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: I'm not for calling any group animals, since dehumanizing helps make it easier to do terrible things, but the rest of it?


I dunno, I think fascists should have pretty horrible things done to them.
 
2022-10-03 11:44:24 AM  
Yes, but the men in Moscow understand that dead soldiers can't participate in a revolution.  That's the real point of the mobilization.  Has little to do with Ukraine, and everything to do with the existential threat posed against those in power.
 
2022-10-03 12:04:48 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: mrinfoguy: Majin_Buu: Hopefully they start pulling from the MAGAt pool some time soon. Would be cool if I could have one weekend where I don't have to feel like I'm living in a warzone because Muh Rights™ and Freedumbz. They're acting like rabid animals that need to be put down.

I hope you are looking in the mirror while saying this.

Absolute tool you are.

I'm not for calling any group animals, since dehumanizing helps make it easier to do terrible things, but the rest of it?

[Fark user image 850x477]

They're around the right age to get conscripted and fight with two days' training.  Hell, they probably have more experience with a variety of firearms than a Russian conscript, though their AR-15s will be in much better shape.


"In fact, we're so alike in voice and appearance, they're often mistaken for dwarf men."
 
2022-10-03 12:29:09 PM  

robxiii: Can someone explain to me why MAGAs seem to still have a hard on for Russia?  Is it the bullying thing, the anti gay thing?   Can't be the migrant thing or they'd feel the same about Japan lol.

/confused


Paychecks.
 
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