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2022-10-02 7:18:58 PM  
Wow. Imagine being handcuffed in a police car, with its door open, and watching your impending death coming at 60mph and 110 decibels...Wow.
 
2022-10-02 7:24:49 PM  
Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?
 
2022-10-02 7:29:21 PM  
From Subby's headline I thought it was the only attorney Trump as ever paid.
 
2022-10-02 7:35:06 PM  
Just like a cop - uncuff the patrol rifle and save it, but leave the Woman handcuffed in the back.
 
2022-10-02 8:16:04 PM  
Luckier than that dog with two dicks?
 
2022-10-02 8:53:30 PM  
Qualified immunity.

The department will kick her a few hundred grand and agree not to bill her family for the full cost of the police car.

She will sign an NDA.

Officer will face no consequences.
 
2022-10-02 9:41:51 PM  

tonguedepressor: Wow. Imagine being handcuffed in a police car, with its door open, and watching your impending death coming at 60mph and 110 decibels...Wow.


And watching the closest cop realize what is going on and rather than helping you wets their pants and runs like a coward.


thin blue line my ass. Thin yellow line down the leg is more like it.
 
2022-10-02 10:25:21 PM  
I like how all it took for her to be detained was someone calling 911 and reporting a gun was pointed. I also like how the cops assume the lack of gun is evidence that she tossed said gun.
 
2022-10-03 12:02:54 AM  
This guy is the luckiest lawyer EVER as he did not die from this (From 2003 but WARNING: Graphic).

Man shoots at his lawyer
Youtube H9zy37-_0LU
 
2022-10-03 12:03:41 AM  
A better video (Same deal, but very graphic).

Lawyer Dodges Bullets
Youtube 9tkMYoOLAhk
 
2022-10-03 12:14:02 AM  

fnordfocus: Qualified immunity.

The department will kick her a few hundred grand and agree not to bill her family for the full cost of the police car.

She will sign an NDA.

Officer will face no consequences.


They may or may not face criminal charges, but they'll probably face a few bucks civilly.
These verdicts aren't getting cheaper. It's going the other way.
 
TWX
2022-10-03 1:10:07 AM  

Exile On Beale Street: Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?


I'd argue attempted murder.

He well knew the law, both the legal code and basic physics.  He intentionally put her in there and left the car on the tracks.  He tried to kill her and this should be treated as such.
 
2022-10-03 1:19:56 AM  

kdawg7736: A better video (Same deal, but very graphic).

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Now which one of us hasn't wanted to gun down a lawyer?
 
2022-10-03 1:20:17 AM  

Cewley: From Subby's headline I thought it was the only attorney Trump as ever paid.


Funny how a lot of people think of TFG in various ways .. Just today I saw a pile of dog crap beside the sidewalk and I thought of him ..
 
2022-10-03 1:21:53 AM  
Why would you park on train tracks?
 
2022-10-03 1:23:15 AM  
So, why was the car stopped on the tracks?
 
2022-10-03 1:25:16 AM  

kdawg7736: This guy is the luckiest lawyer EVER as he did not die from this (From 2003 but WARNING: Graphic).

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I remember that. I remember wondering how badly the lawyer had farked up that man's case. And how bad a shot the guy was.
 
2022-10-03 1:25:18 AM  

TWX: Exile On Beale Street: Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?

I'd argue attempted murder.

He well knew the law, both the legal code and basic physics.  He intentionally put her in there and left the car on the tracks.  He tried to kill her and this should be treated as such.


While I agree with you. Reaching for the most extreme charge possible has resulted in quite a few "not guilty" i would rather they go for the charge they know they can win, than go for the hail Mary.
 
2022-10-03 1:26:23 AM  
How about suspend or revoke their drivers license.  There should be enough points to do that.  It is hard to be a cop without a drivers license and that stuff will follow them out of state if they decide to move.

Can the railroad police press charges too?
 
2022-10-03 1:26:30 AM  

TWX: Exile On Beale Street: Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?

I'd argue attempted murder.

He well knew the law, both the legal code and basic physics.  He intentionally put her in there and left the car on the tracks.  He tried to kill her and this should be treated as such.


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2022-10-03 1:27:24 AM  
Part of my wishes those cops could be tied up and tossed in front of a moving train, but that would just be mean to the train driver and it might scuff the paint of the train. Maybe give them all free trips to Hawaii and toss them in an active lava vent?
 
2022-10-03 1:27:51 AM  

olorin604: TWX: Exile On Beale Street: Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?

I'd argue attempted murder.

He well knew the law, both the legal code and basic physics.  He intentionally put her in there and left the car on the tracks.  He tried to kill her and this should be treated as such.

While I agree with you. Reaching for the most extreme charge possible has resulted in quite a few "not guilty" i would rather they go for the charge they know they can win, than go for the hail Mary.


How about threaten with the 'extreme' charge to get them to plead guilty to lesser charges? You know, the same strong-arm duress tactic they legally pull on non-cops all the time?
 
2022-10-03 1:27:56 AM  

mikalmd: Cewley: From Subby's headline I thought it was the only attorney Trump as ever paid.

Funny how a lot of people think of TFG in various ways .. Just today I saw a pile of dog crap beside the sidewalk and I thought of him ..


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2022-10-03 1:30:18 AM  
And people think we need theses officers of stupid.
 
2022-10-03 1:31:38 AM  
That sure looks to me like attempted murder by the police.
 
2022-10-03 1:39:02 AM  

fnordfocus: Qualified immunity.

The department city will kick her a few hundred grand and agree not to bill her family for the full cost of the police car.

She will sign an NDA.

Officer will face no consequences.


Qualified immunity. The police department won't lose one red cent in the lawsuit.


/and the officers involved won't face criminal charges, because no officer had ever cuffed someone and put them into a police cruiser parked on that particular railroad crossing
 
2022-10-03 1:42:05 AM  

kdawg7736: A better video (Same deal, but very graphic).

[YouTube video: Lawyer Dodges Bullets]


Early camera phone?
 
2022-10-03 1:45:41 AM  

King Something: Qualified immunity. The police department won't lose one red cent in the lawsuit.


Qualified immunity will apply to something like attempted murder charges, it won't apple for something like failure to secure a suspect.

They have him on video running away from his suspect.
 
2022-10-03 1:46:15 AM  

Lsherm: it won't apple


apply
 
2022-10-03 1:51:00 AM  
You see, cops are not only above the law, they are above physics too. Ain't no goddamned train gonna tell an officer of the law that they can't park on the tracks.  That train needs to be arrested for obstructing an officer in the performance of their duty.
 
2022-10-03 1:51:49 AM  
Yeah, all rules are out for a cop PARKING ON THE TRACKS! There was space to ride up on the bumper of the voluntarily stopped vehicle. She had pulled forward far enough to make space. Even if the train came a few minutes earlier, before she was caged, he was a moron for violating the most basic of rules.
 
2022-10-03 1:55:21 AM  
It just occurred to me that train crossings are a primary example of regulatory capture. The train company has regulations to require basic notices, but since you can't stop a train they get preferential treatment. If trains were invented today, they'd have to be able to stop in a regulated short distance.
 
2022-10-03 1:59:49 AM  

SpectroBoy: And watching the closest cop realize what is going on and rather than helping you wets their pants and runs like a coward.


The reprehensible thing here was that they parked and put a detainee in a car parked on railroad tracks.  But it was six seconds between when the cop noticed (2:12 in video) the train and it hit the car (2:18).  It would have been physically impossible to get her out at that point.

TWX: Exile On Beale Street: Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?

I'd argue attempted murder.

He well knew the law, both the legal code and basic physics.  He intentionally put her in there and left the car on the tracks.  He tried to kill her and this should be treated as such.


I would agree the police should face something like that (and probably won't because the law sucks) but it's on the basis that once they took her into custody they took responsibility for her safety.  I.e., failure to take reasonable measures to protect someone in your custody (like not parking on farking train tracks) should be prosecuted as if actively harming them.

It's not because the police tried to killer.  The police did not try to kill her.  That's not a reasonable thing to claim based on the video.


You know, it's pretty asinine for you guys to make this overzealous and unjustifiable claims about the police.  Not because it's asinine to vilify the police, but because reasonable-thinking people have to deal with the nausea of defending the police to correct you.
 
2022-10-03 2:15:45 AM  

olorin604: TWX: Exile On Beale Street: Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?

I'd argue attempted murder.

He well knew the law, both the legal code and basic physics.  He intentionally put her in there and left the car on the tracks.  He tried to kill her and this should be treated as such.

While I agree with you. Reaching for the most extreme charge possible has resulted in quite a few "not guilty" i would rather they go for the charge they know they can win, than go for the hail Mary.


A friend of mine became a public defender. He wanted to be a prosecutor, but ya know, grades and all.  He was quite conservative. When he got the PD job, we ribbed him a bit.

Anyway, he told me he thought about 10% of his clients were probably innocent, but that 90% were overcharged. And that's how he found value and passion in his work.
 
2022-10-03 2:19:35 AM  
Pigs are the worst.
 
2022-10-03 2:21:42 AM  
 
2022-10-03 2:24:19 AM  

wildcardjack: If trains were invented today, they'd have to be able to stop in a regulated short distance.


I kind of doubt it, especially for long freight trains.  It's not physically realistic to expect something that large and fast to stop in as short as distance as it takes to notice something on the tracks.  It's maybe possible, but you lose everything that makes trains cost- and fuel-effective, and I doubt it'd be feasible to stop such a large heavy train in a short distance without serious risk of derailment.  So it'd have to go really slow to be able stop in a short distance, killing cost-effectiveness, and the constant stopping would kill the fuel efficiency.

So either freight trains wouldn't have been invented at all, or regulation would have been adjusted to allow a longer stop distance.

Passenger trains tend to be shorter and lighter, though.  Light rail in fact usually is required to have a short stopping distance.  I remember once a commuter line in LA stopped suddently and waited about three minutes for some homeless guy to mosey across the tracks.
 
2022-10-03 2:30:19 AM  

aerojockey: wildcardjack: If trains were invented today, they'd have to be able to stop in a regulated short distance.

I kind of doubt it, especially for long freight trains.  It's not physically realistic to expect something that large and fast to stop in as short as distance as it takes to notice something on the tracks.  It's maybe possible, but you lose everything that makes trains cost- and fuel-effective, and I doubt it'd be feasible to stop such a large heavy train in a short distance without serious risk of derailment.  So it'd have to go really slow to be able stop in a short distance, killing cost-effectiveness, and the constant stopping would kill the fuel efficiency.

So either freight trains wouldn't have been invented at all, or regulation would have been adjusted to allow a longer stop distance.

Passenger trains tend to be shorter and lighter, though.  Light rail in fact usually is required to have a short stopping distance.  I remember once a commuter line in LA stopped suddently and waited about three minutes for some homeless guy to mosey across the tracks.


If new tech, the regulations probably wouldn't focus on stopping distance for the physics you mentioned. Rather, they'd probably focus on safe intersection with other transport. More bridges, more tunnels to equal less intersection. That'd be easier as the infrastructure was being built, rather than to change it all today. Go up, over, under, and around. If you are laying the tracks for the first time, you could probably do that.
 
2022-10-03 2:31:37 AM  
The cop parked on the tracks because she was smart enough not to.

He stopped behind her pulled over car concerned she had a gun. The thought of a train never occurred to him because he was worried about getting shot.

After he had her under control it was sloppy not to move the car. He had to notice standing on tracks when he put her inside.
 
2022-10-03 2:39:43 AM  

Senseless_drivel: The cop parked on the tracks because she was smart enough not to.

He stopped behind her pulled over car concerned she had a gun. The thought of a train never occurred to him because he was worried about getting shot.

After he had her under control it was sloppy not to move the car. He had to notice standing on tracks when he put her inside.


Actually I found a longer vid. And, I curious if the suspect was hoping for the cops to get killed. That would have been funny as fark all
 
2022-10-03 2:41:54 AM  

question_dj: I like how all it took for her to be detained was someone calling 911 and reporting a gun was pointed. I also like how the cops assume the lack of gun is evidence that she tossed said gun.


We allow SWATting to happen. This is just normal background american levels compared to that.
 
2022-10-03 2:43:46 AM  
Handcuff that piece of shiat and run him over.
 
2022-10-03 2:52:11 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: If new tech, the regulations probably wouldn't focus on stopping distance for the physics you mentioned. Rather, they'd probably focus on safe intersection with other transport. More bridges, more tunnels to equal less intersection. That'd be easier as the infrastructure was being built, rather than to change it all today. Go up, over, under, and around. If you are laying the tracks for the first time, you could probably do that.



Probably there'd be a lot more overpasses than there are now, but I still doubt they'd build a bridge over every podunk road that crosses the tracks.

CSB, there is a railroad that crosses the entrance to the parking lot where I work.  The rails are no longer in use (the right-of-way was sold to the county to build a new commuter rail) and there were huge piles of dirt covering the tracks on both sides.  As such, it was completely safe to stop on the rails, and I would sometimes do so just to unnerve other drivers who all tended to avoid stopping on them.
 
2022-10-03 3:00:59 AM  

question_dj: I like how all it took for her to be detained was someone calling 911 and reporting a gun was pointed. I also like how the cops assume the lack of gun is evidence that she tossed said gun.


Yeah it is that sort of shiat that pisses me off.  The cops constantly act like a 911 call is evidence of something when it is anything but.  There was no RAS to handcuff her and put her in the police car, at best they were allowed to get her out of the car and pat her down (not search her) for their safety.
 
2022-10-03 3:04:13 AM  

aerojockey: Probably there'd be a lot more overpasses than there are now, but I still doubt they'd build a bridge over every podunk road that crosses the tracks.


Up, over, under, and especially around would take care of a lot. But not every crossing. But I bet if it was new construction, with the eye on safety and regulation now, there would at least be warning lights and gates at every intersection. That's the way we build now.
 
2022-10-03 3:12:04 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: aerojockey: Probably there'd be a lot more overpasses than there are now, but I still doubt they'd build a bridge over every podunk road that crosses the tracks.

Up, over, under, and especially around would take care of a lot. But not every crossing. But I bet if it was new construction, with the eye on safety and regulation now, there would at least be warning lights and gates at every intersection. That's the way we build now.


Maybe, but the police would still be stupid enough to park on the tracks.
 
2022-10-03 4:19:29 AM  
ACAB
 
2022-10-03 4:49:22 AM  
The city and police department better work out a nice settlement, and try to keep this from getting to a jury.
An attractive young woman being cuffed in a car, and left to be hit by a train, is not going to end well for the cops at the scene. Also having it all on video, makes it even worse.
Cop also should be charged with criminal negligence.
 
2022-10-03 5:30:14 AM  

aerojockey: SpectroBoy: And watching the closest cop realize what is going on and rather than helping you wets their pants and runs like a coward.

The reprehensible thing here was that they parked and put a detainee in a car parked on railroad tracks.  But it was six seconds between when the cop noticed (2:12 in video) the train and it hit the car (2:18).  It would have been physically impossible to get her out at that point.

TWX: Exile On Beale Street: Sue everyone back to the Stone Age. Cop should be charged. Reckless endangerment?

I'd argue attempted murder.

He well knew the law, both the legal code and basic physics.  He intentionally put her in there and left the car on the tracks.  He tried to kill her and this should be treated as such.

I would agree the police should face something like that (and probably won't because the law sucks) but it's on the basis that once they took her into custody they took responsibility for her safety.  I.e., failure to take reasonable measures to protect someone in your custody (like not parking on farking train tracks) should be prosecuted as if actively harming them.

It's not because the police tried to killer.  The police did not try to kill her.  That's not a reasonable thing to claim based on the video.


You know, it's pretty asinine for you guys to make this overzealous and unjustifiable claims about the police.  Not because it's asinine to vilify the police, but because reasonable-thinking people have to deal with the nausea of defending the police to correct you.


Bull.  THEY PARKED ON TRAIN TRACKS.  Anyone who has ever set for a drivers license test knows that's a big NO-NO.  It doesn't matter that he "noticed" it late; he still didn't follow the law.  That's what makes it attempted murder.

Don't make excuses for people who are supposed to be trained to know better.
 
2022-10-03 5:39:35 AM  
The cop could be fined $15 to $100 and no points for parking on the tracks.
https://law.justia.com/codes/colorado/2016/title-42/regulation-of-vehicles-and-traffic/article-4/part-12/section-42-4-1204
Unless the other cop said to do it.
 
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