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2022-10-02 6:58:34 AM  
anything to keep the oil burning
 
2022-10-02 7:17:45 AM  
reefs

Yeah those might be gone soon too. Reefs are essentially limestone, and limestone dissolves in acidic pH, and as the oceans absorb more of the CO2 we're pumping out (a huge amount goes there instead of the atmosphere, which is why we're not already baking), the oceans get more acidic, which means, physically, fewer and fewer reefs.  Even assuming we can replace them with heat-resistant corals and grow enough quickly.
 
2022-10-02 8:13:47 AM  
Ok. Who is adopting all these Problem people?
 
2022-10-02 8:26:16 AM  

edmo: Ok. Who is adopting all these Problem people?


Nose goes.
 
2022-10-02 8:58:01 AM  

edmo: Ok. Who is adopting all these Problem people?


Everyone at the table turns and looks at Idaho.
 
2022-10-02 9:47:33 AM  
Or we could do the American thing...thoughts and prayers, nothing but thoughts and prayers...

it's great cause it costs nothing, solves nothing, and requires no effort, aside from saying the words on camera.
 
2022-10-02 9:54:01 AM  
Distributing them over a larger area will only increase their influence.
 
2022-10-02 9:56:38 AM  

WickerNipple: edmo: Ok. Who is adopting all these Problem people?

Everyone at the table turns and looks at Idaho.


Idaho?  No.  Youdaho!
 
2022-10-02 10:01:18 AM  
Or, we could try *more* thoughts and prayers...lets try that...it costs nothing, solves nothing, and requires no effort, but looks good on the cameras.

Thoughts and prayers, it's the American way!
 
2022-10-02 10:10:50 AM  
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2022-10-02 10:42:50 AM  
I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left
 
2022-10-02 10:50:07 AM  
Climate change is helping cylons intensify faster, produc... Wait, what?

Stupid brain.
 
2022-10-02 10:50:26 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left


Threadjack:
Please holler at me or Malloree? Thanks.
/ end tj
 
2022-10-02 10:57:12 AM  
They would just go someplace else and vote for someone to destroy America from there. There is no value to anyone in floriduh. They are an absolute negative resource and drain on humanity.
 
2022-10-02 11:18:24 AM  

AlphaG33k: Or, we could try *more* thoughts and prayers...lets try that...it costs nothing, solves nothing, and requires no effort, but looks good on the cameras.

Thoughts and prayers, it's the American way!


It was dumb the first time you posted it, you didn't need to double down.
 
2022-10-02 11:22:20 AM  

jerryskid: They would just go someplace else and vote for someone to destroy America from there. There is no value to anyone in floriduh. They are an absolute negative resource and drain on humanity.


Agreed. Keep them in Flooriduh, so they don't go poisoning the rest of the country any more than they already do.
 
2022-10-02 11:34:38 AM  
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2022-10-02 11:40:40 AM  
But "earth isn't overpopulated" 🙄
 
2022-10-02 11:42:48 AM  

Cafe Threads: pastramithemosterotic: I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left

Threadjack:
Please holler at me or Malloree? Thanks.
/ end tj


I know i have your guys contact somewhere, I will.
 
2022-10-02 11:51:02 AM  

ClavellBCMI: jerryskid: They would just go someplace else and vote for someone to destroy America from there. There is no value to anyone in floriduh. They are an absolute negative resource and drain on humanity.

Agreed. Keep them in Flooriduh, so they don't go poisoning the rest of the country any more than they already do.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume neither of you graduated middle school.
 
2022-10-02 11:53:31 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: Cafe Threads: pastramithemosterotic: I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left

Threadjack:
Please holler at me or Malloree? Thanks.
/ end tj

I know i have your guys contact somewhere, I will.

We need people to do the opposite: move to the low-populated super-red states like Wyoming. Yeah, things would be tough until enough of us move there to flip it blue. It'd only take a few hundred thousand ― the population of a medium-sized city. That flips two Senate seats and a House seat, and of course Wyoming's new blue legislature could rescind any application for a Constitutional Convention.

They're winning because they have more land even though we have more people, and while we like to say that land doesn't vote, due to the Senate, it really does.
 
2022-10-02 11:58:21 AM  
Coral reefs may be good for reducing wave action but they aren't gonna do shiat about storm surge or rainfall flooding.

The Gulf of Mexico is getting warmer and storms are going to get stronger.

/and Leon's getting larger
 
2022-10-02 12:00:18 PM  

Marshmallow Jones: G33k


It's the American way! USA! USA!

I'll just offer my tots and pears again...to your fee fees
 
2022-10-02 12:05:35 PM  
How does 'letting wackjobs infiltrate the sane states' solve a lot of problems?
 
2022-10-02 12:08:15 PM  

dionysusaur: Distributing them over a larger area will only increase their influence.


Actually, given that they're basically sheep (they just have really bad shepherds), if you spread them around thinly enough you'll have a good chance of rehabilitating the kids if not the adults.  They'll adapt to their new communities through peer pressure.

You just have to make sure you don't have two or more such families within a mobility scooter ride of each other.
 
2022-10-02 12:14:33 PM  

Marshmallow Jones: ClavellBCMI: jerryskid: They would just go someplace else and vote for someone to destroy America from there. There is no value to anyone in floriduh. They are an absolute negative resource and drain on humanity.

Agreed. Keep them in Flooriduh, so they don't go poisoning the rest of the country any more than they already do.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume neither of you graduated middle school.


You do know what happens when you assume, right?
 
2022-10-02 12:15:13 PM  

scanman61: Coral reefs may be good for reducing wave action but they aren't gonna do shiat about storm surge or rainfall flooding.

The Gulf of Mexico is getting warmer and storms are going to get stronger.

/and Leon's getting larger


Wave energy helps send ocean water further inland.
 
2022-10-02 12:24:35 PM  

COMALite J: pastramithemosterotic: Cafe Threads: pastramithemosterotic: I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left

Threadjack:
Please holler at me or Malloree? Thanks.
/ end tj

I know i have your guys contact somewhere, I will.
We need people to do the opposite: move to the low-populated super-red states like Wyoming. Yeah, things would be tough until enough of us move there to flip it blue. It'd only take a few hundred thousand ― the population of a medium-sized city. That flips two Senate seats and a House seat, and of course Wyoming's new blue legislature could rescind any application for a Constitutional Convention.

They're winning because they have more land even though we have more people, and while we like to say that land doesn't vote, due to the Senate, it really does.


How do I win in this scenario? I have to move to f*cking Wyoming?
 
2022-10-02 12:29:01 PM  

thornhill: scanman61: Coral reefs may be good for reducing wave action but they aren't gonna do shiat about storm surge or rainfall flooding.

The Gulf of Mexico is getting warmer and storms are going to get stronger.

/and Leon's getting larger

Wave energy helps send ocean water further inland.


And the warming Gulf is going to cause storms of much higher intensity that are going to cause greater and greater problems.  The coastal areas along the Gulf are pretty much farked no matter what we do because the genie is already out of the bottle.

Don't get me wrong, saving & restoring the reefs is a good thing, but someone is trying to piggyback their cause onto the coverage after Ian.
 
2022-10-02 12:47:31 PM  

mistahtom: But "earth isn't overpopulated" 🙄


Keep farking that chicken.
 
2022-10-02 1:46:39 PM  

jerryskid: They would just go someplace else and vote for someone to destroy America from there. There is no value to anyone in floriduh. They are an absolute negative resource and drain on humanity.



Biden got 5.3 million votes in Florida, more than any state but California.  But everyone in Florida is stupid, right?  Why, because they're bigots?  I guess it's OK when we do it.
 
2022-10-02 1:47:02 PM  

scanman61: thornhill: scanman61: Coral reefs may be good for reducing wave action but they aren't gonna do shiat about storm surge or rainfall flooding.

The Gulf of Mexico is getting warmer and storms are going to get stronger.

/and Leon's getting larger

Wave energy helps send ocean water further inland.

And the warming Gulf is going to cause storms of much higher intensity that are going to cause greater and greater problems.  The coastal areas along the Gulf are pretty much farked no matter what we do because the genie is already out of the bottle.

Don't get me wrong, saving & restoring the reefs is a good thing, but someone is trying to piggyback their cause onto the coverage after Ian.


So what are you arguing? That we throw up our hands and just do nothing?

Why not try everything: Rebuild reefs and barrier islands, stop building sea walls that contribute beach errosion, prohibit housing in the areas most prone to coastal flooding, etc.
 
2022-10-02 1:55:53 PM  

pearls before swine: jerryskid: They would just go someplace else and vote for someone to destroy America from there. There is no value to anyone in floriduh. They are an absolute negative resource and drain on humanity.


Biden got 5.3 million votes in Florida, more than any state but California.  But everyone in Florida is stupid, right?  Why, because they're bigots?  I guess it's OK when we do it.


The Florida electorate is unique with how disproportionately old and white is. In most states, the average age of the electorate is dropping each year, and it's becoming more racially diverse. Florida is perpetually stuck in 1980.
 
2022-10-02 4:12:52 PM  

thornhill: scanman61: thornhill: scanman61: Coral reefs may be good for reducing wave action but they aren't gonna do shiat about storm surge or rainfall flooding.

The Gulf of Mexico is getting warmer and storms are going to get stronger.

/and Leon's getting larger

Wave energy helps send ocean water further inland.

And the warming Gulf is going to cause storms of much higher intensity that are going to cause greater and greater problems.  The coastal areas along the Gulf are pretty much farked no matter what we do because the genie is already out of the bottle.

Don't get me wrong, saving & restoring the reefs is a good thing, but someone is trying to piggyback their cause onto the coverage after Ian.

So what are you arguing? That we throw up our hands and just do nothing?

Why not try everything: Rebuild reefs and barrier islands, stop building sea walls that contribute beach errosion, prohibit housing in the areas most prone to coastal flooding, etc.


By all means, rebuild the reefs and barrier islands.  I grew up near Lake Pontchartrain and now live near Galveston and I enjoy the coastal areas.

Just don't pretend that it's going to do much aside from protecting coastal estuaries from normal erosion.  I don't think even the "Ike dike" project they're planning for coastal Texas is going to be enough against the coming storms.

They're building the defenses needed for the last war, not the coming one.
 
2022-10-02 8:21:20 PM  

koder: reefs

Yeah those might be gone soon too. Reefs are essentially limestone, and limestone dissolves in acidic pH, and as the oceans absorb more of the CO2 we're pumping out (a huge amount goes there instead of the atmosphere, which is why we're not already baking), the oceans get more acidic, which means, physically, fewer and fewer reefs.  Even assuming we can replace them with heat-resistant corals and grow enough quickly.


Ah, but if we can have enough polyps locking in calcium carbonate it might help sequestration. Coral and clams and other filter feeders in giant reefs, slowing surges while cleaning water and sucking down carbon.
 
2022-10-02 10:04:44 PM  

COMALite J: pastramithemosterotic: Cafe Threads: pastramithemosterotic: I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left

Threadjack:
Please holler at me or Malloree? Thanks.
/ end tj

I know i have your guys contact somewhere, I will.
We need people to do the opposite: move to the low-populated super-red states like Wyoming. Yeah, things would be tough until enough of us move there to flip it blue. It'd only take a few hundred thousand ― the population of a medium-sized city. That flips two Senate seats and a House seat, and of course Wyoming's new blue legislature could rescind any application for a Constitutional Convention.

They're winning because they have more land even though we have more people, and while we like to say that land doesn't vote, due to the Senate, it really does.


And the right wing whackos can do Vermont and Maryland.
 
2022-10-02 11:40:16 PM  

COMALite J: pastramithemosterotic: Cafe Threads: pastramithemosterotic: I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left

Threadjack:
Please holler at me or Malloree? Thanks.
/ end tj

I know i have your guys contact somewhere, I will.
We need people to do the opposite: move to the low-populated super-red states like Wyoming. Yeah, things would be tough until enough of us move there to flip it blue. It'd only take a few hundred thousand ― the population of a medium-sized city. That flips two Senate seats and a House seat, and of course Wyoming's new blue legislature could rescind any application for a Constitutional Convention.

They're winning because they have more land even though we have more people, and while we like to say that land doesn't vote, due to the Senate, it really does.


Good luck with that. You'll need housing, and that is actually pretty scarce. They aren't going to approve a bunch just for some blue staters to move in. They actually try to push out anyone not into ranching or mineral extraction.
 
2022-10-03 1:07:32 AM  
You know, I'm not so sure about that, smitty.  Having to pay recovery efforts every so often is probably a small price to pay to ensure people from Florida stay in Florida.
 
2022-10-03 12:23:24 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: I was planning on moving out of Florida before Ian, but this cemented my decision.

My list of states to move to  is just crossing off the bright red ones and seeing what's left


I'll trade a 5 bedroom house in NJ for a home of similar value in Hurricane Alley
 
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