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2022-10-01 9:35:49 AM  
I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?
 
2022-10-01 9:43:58 AM  

kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?


Yeah.  They had good home versions of arcade games graphics-wise, but I didn't like the controllers that much.

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2022-10-01 10:00:08 AM  
I had some Coleco games for Atari 2600 - notably Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong jr
 
2022-10-01 10:07:51 AM  

Jake Havechek: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

Yeah.  They had good home versions of arcade games graphics-wise, but I didn't like the controllers that much.

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I got over it.

Amazing games, blew the rest of the consoles out of the water by a huge margin.
 
2022-10-01 10:09:12 AM  

Jake Havechek: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

Yeah.  They had good home versions of arcade games graphics-wise, but I didn't like the controllers that much.

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It does look like a phone for the bottom part but a knob for moving your character? I don't know if I would have able to get used to that.
 
2022-10-01 10:10:51 AM  

kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?


I never knew anyone who had one, but they had displays in stores you could play.  Sears, Target, etc. if memory serves me.  I vaguely remember playing this:

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2022-10-01 10:24:53 AM  
Oh dear.

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2022-10-01 10:37:24 AM  

kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?


Yes it was, totally blew the Atari system out of the water. Controllers were kinda brutal though
 
2022-10-01 10:45:58 AM  
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We had the Atari adapter too.  The only cartridges I had for that was crummy Pac Man, Pitfall, Enduro, Barnstorming, and Kaboom.
 
2022-10-01 10:57:28 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Oh dear.

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Is that made from the Atari Jaguar mold?
 
2022-10-01 11:08:14 AM  
Had a friend with a ColecoVision when I was a kid.  I seem to recall it being better than the Intellivision, but I adored my 64 and wouldn't give it up for either.

Though in all honesty it's entirely possible that's because my exposure to them was in the order "Intellivision, ColecoVision, C=64" and things were just improving along the way.  It was a long time ago.
 
2022-10-01 11:38:45 AM  

kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?


It was a step up from the Atari when it came to arcade games, though I remember hating the controller.
 
2022-10-01 11:41:44 AM  

kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?


Yes it was. You could make smurfette striptease
 
2022-10-01 11:43:58 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Had a friend with a ColecoVision when I was a kid.  I seem to recall it being better than the Intellivision, but I adored my 64 and wouldn't give it up for either.

Though in all honesty it's entirely possible that's because my exposure to them was in the order "Intellivision, ColecoVision, C=64" and things were just improving along the way.  It was a long time ago.


Hands down, the worst controller was Intellivision's, oh, and THAT Intel.
 
2022-10-01 12:00:31 PM  

Glitchwerks: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

I never knew anyone who had one, but they had displays in stores you could play.  Sears, Target, etc. if memory serves me.  I vaguely remember playing this:

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Fun fact: If you made it all the way to the end where you rescue Smurfette but then walked back left off the screen, she glitched and lifted her skirt, looked up and crazy. Since the game was short, after a while seeing the glitch was the only reason we played it.

[TAS] Coleco Smurf: Rescue in Gargamel's Castle by EZGames69 & Noxxa in 02:06.35
Youtube -tAx25iyHTw
 
2022-10-01 12:12:47 PM  
Before the dolls and video games, Coleco made really cool sleds.
 
2022-10-01 12:29:37 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: Glitchwerks: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

I never knew anyone who had one, but they had displays in stores you could play.  Sears, Target, etc. if memory serves me.  I vaguely remember playing this:

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Fun fact: If you made it all the way to the end where you rescue Smurfette but then walked back left off the screen, she glitched and lifted her skirt, looked up and crazy. Since the game was short, after a while seeing the glitch was the only reason we played it.

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There was no glitch in the video, I feel cheated.
 
2022-10-01 12:42:40 PM  
I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

But that article sucked.   It was paragraph after paragraph of "the rise" part of the headline, and about a sentence on the "and fall" part.  They did this, and it was a smash hit, then they did that, and it was a smash hit, then they did the other thing, and everyone loved it!  Then they launched the Adam.

The end.
 
2022-10-01 12:51:42 PM  

Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.


I have no idea what they're like now, but when I was a kid a Big Wheel was molded plastic except for the shaft connecting the pedals.  And usually you'd melt a hole in the front wheel about five minutes after the thing was put to use.
 
2022-10-01 12:52:06 PM  
For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
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which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.
 
2022-10-01 12:55:05 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

I have no idea what they're like now, but when I was a kid a Big Wheel was molded plastic except for the shaft connecting the pedals.  And usually you'd melt a hole in the front wheel about five minutes after the thing was put to use.


The reason I got the second Big Wheel is because I rode that hole to the point where the front tire split into two parts.  After the second one was ridden to it's demise, I got a "Green Machine" or something like that.   It was basically a Big Wheel with rear wheel steering and levers.

Then I got a bike.  Rubber tires have served me well.
 
2022-10-01 1:01:49 PM  

ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
[Fark user image image 640x480]
which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.


IIRC, Richard Linklater filmed a couple small segments of Slacker with one of those.
 
2022-10-01 1:10:14 PM  

Rent Party: Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

I have no idea what they're like now, but when I was a kid a Big Wheel was molded plastic except for the shaft connecting the pedals.  And usually you'd melt a hole in the front wheel about five minutes after the thing was put to use.

The reason I got the second Big Wheel is because I rode that hole to the point where the front tire split into two parts.  After the second one was ridden to it's demise, I got a "Green Machine" or something like that.   It was basically a Big Wheel with rear wheel steering and levers.

Then I got a bike.  Rubber tires have served me well.


A small part of me wants to build a 'Big Wheel' with proper bike parts, including handlebar brakes and a hub gear system so the pedals go into neutral while not providing power.  With a hub motor and a battery pack under the seat for power assist.  Then add a safety flag, because a recumbent trike is basically invisible to cars.  And an insulated trunk compartment in the back of the seat so you can carry snacks and such.  And maybe put an oversize fender around as much of the front wheel as possible not only to stop splashing but to avoid your legs contacting the wheel.

Now that would have been a fun thing to have as a kid.  Though e-bikes weren't a thing when I was that age, of course.
 
2022-10-01 1:10:18 PM  
I played Donkey Kong a lot on that thing. In fact I think that was the only game we had. It was a Christmas present.

After a month or so the screen went black & white and I had to wedge something somewhere to get it to go back to color, memory is hazy. Kind of like blowing on the Atari cartridge, only more painful.
 
2022-10-01 1:14:24 PM  

Jake Havechek: ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
[Fark user image image 640x480]
which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.

IIRC, Richard Linklater filmed a couple small segments of Slacker with one of those.


Among others.

There is also a PXL THIS Film Festival.
 
2022-10-01 1:14:43 PM  
Coleco popularized Cabbage Patch Dolls by mass marketing them. The originals were handmade. My grandmother had one.
 
2022-10-01 1:20:08 PM  

kdawg7736: Jake Havechek: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

Yeah.  They had good home versions of arcade games graphics-wise, but I didn't like the controllers that much.

[Fark user image 425x419]

It does look like a phone for the bottom part but a knob for moving your character? I don't know if I would have able to get used to that.


it wasn't a knob.  It was a joystick
 
2022-10-01 1:20:44 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

I have no idea what they're like now, but when I was a kid a Big Wheel was molded plastic except for the shaft connecting the pedals.  And usually you'd melt a hole in the front wheel about five minutes after the thing was put to use.

The reason I got the second Big Wheel is because I rode that hole to the point where the front tire split into two parts.  After the second one was ridden to it's demise, I got a "Green Machine" or something like that.   It was basically a Big Wheel with rear wheel steering and levers.

Then I got a bike.  Rubber tires have served me well.

A small part of me wants to build a 'Big Wheel' with proper bike parts, including handlebar brakes and a hub gear system so the pedals go into neutral while not providing power.  With a hub motor and a battery pack under the seat for power assist.  Then add a safety flag, because a recumbent trike is basically invisible to cars.  And an insulated trunk compartment in the back of the seat so you can carry snacks and such.  And maybe put an oversize fender around as much of the front wheel as possible not only to stop splashing but to avoid your legs contacting the wheel.

Now that would have been a fun thing to have as a kid.  Though e-bikes weren't a thing when I was that age, of course.


Recumbents are cool, but I'm turning into a gram snob in my old age.   I am seeing e-bikes all over the place though.   I guess if it gets folks pedaling around that's good.   I rode to the Snoqualmie Pass tunnel last weekend.  19 miles of railroad grade, 2300 feet of elevation, all uphill.   I saw probably a dozen of them.
 
2022-10-01 1:22:00 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: Coleco popularized Cabbage Patch Dolls by mass marketing them. The originals were handmade. My grandmother had one.


People tried killing each other to get those things.
 
2022-10-01 1:25:43 PM  

Rent Party: I am seeing e-bikes all over the place though. I guess if it gets folks pedaling around that's good.


My parents would have given up on exercising if not for power-assist.  It's kept them active and healthier longer than they likely otherwise would have been.

For me, I do not currently have a bike but I wouldn't get anything without it because there are just too many hills here... plus it extends your range regardless of your fitness level.
 
2022-10-01 1:39:16 PM  

Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

But that article sucked.   It was paragraph after paragraph of "the rise" part of the headline, and about a sentence on the "and fall" part.  They did this, and it was a smash hit, then they did that, and it was a smash hit, then they did the other thing, and everyone loved it!  Then they launched the Adam.

The end.


Yeah, the full story is sadder than that. They basically had all their fads end at the same time. One of those fads was Trivial Pursuit -- they bought that long with Parcheese and Scrabble for $75 million on pretty much the exact day that the very last American household bought a copy.
 
2022-10-01 1:59:54 PM  
Colecovision mark 1:

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Colecovision mark 2:
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My uncle had the first, I didn't really remember the second until googling the first image.  I don't think it was very popular.  Coleco just marketed the thing, Telstar built it, mostly thanks to a General Instrument AY-3-8500 chip.

PA appears to have made some real legends of the consumer silicon era of the time.  Other legends were MOS technologies (the dirt cheap but effective 6502), and Zilog (which briefly snatched the "compatible computer" crown away from Intel).

/what happened to big wheels anyway?
//you don't even see knock-offs now
///no idea they were Coleco.  If I was still riding them when I could read, the stickers were long worn off.
 
2022-10-01 2:05:12 PM  
Hasbro bought them out. I recall seeing rows of Coleco trailers parked in a lot in Pawtucket.

That probably ended ALF, too.
 
2022-10-01 2:08:06 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Colecovision mark 1:

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Colecovision mark 2:
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My uncle had the first, I didn't really remember the second until googling the first image.  I don't think it was very popular.  Coleco just marketed the thing, Telstar built it, mostly thanks to a General Instrument AY-3-8500 chip.

PA appears to have made some real legends of the consumer silicon era of the time.  Other legends were MOS technologies (the dirt cheap but effective 6502), and Zilog (which briefly snatched the "compatible computer" crown away from Intel).


//you don't even see knock-offs now
///no idea they were Coleco.  If I was still riding them when I could read, the stickers were long worn off.


/what happened to big wheels anyway?

I found this thing on Amazon

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2022-10-01 2:11:35 PM  
In my neighborhood, there was a huge rivalry between those that had a Big Wheel and those that had a Green Machine.
 
2022-10-01 2:28:23 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: Glitchwerks: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

I never knew anyone who had one, but they had displays in stores you could play.  Sears, Target, etc. if memory serves me.  I vaguely remember playing this:

[Fark user image image 850x1150]

Fun fact: If you made it all the way to the end where you rescue Smurfette but then walked back left off the screen, she glitched and lifted her skirt, looked up and crazy. Since the game was short, after a while seeing the glitch was the only reason we played it.

[YouTube video: [TAS] Coleco Smurf: Rescue in Gargamel's Castle by EZGames69 & Noxxa in 02:06.35]


Well damn thanks for the memory. I loved that stupid little game, along with Donkey Kong and (iirc) Donkey Kong Jr. My brother loved Pole Position. There was also some mousetrap like game for it, where you had to insert this plastic overlay on the number keys to help you navigate through the game. I vaguely remember one of the in game things was a cat head, and another was a cheese wedge.

Gods, 1982...
 
2022-10-01 2:38:47 PM  

Glitchwerks: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

I never knew anyone who had one, but they had displays in stores you could play.  Sears, Target, etc. if memory serves me.  I vaguely remember playing this:

[Fark user image image 850x1150]


Yeah, I spent a lot of time playing Smurf on the Sears store display.
 
2022-10-01 2:49:51 PM  

ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
[Fark user image 640x480]
which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.


That became a hipster favorite after it died a swift death among its intended market. I remember attending a film festival where all of the entries were filmed with Fisher-Price pixelvision cameras.
 
2022-10-01 2:59:03 PM  
Fun fact: Atari was very close to becoming the North American distributor for the Nintendo Famicom in 1983, but they saw Coleco demoing Donkey Kong on a Coleco Adam computer at CES. This violated the Atari's exclusive license to sell the game on home computers, so it led to a huge fallout between Atari and Nintendo that caused the deal to get scuttled, pushing back the Famicom US release by two years and giving Nintendo its opening in the worldwide home console market.
 
2022-10-01 3:04:52 PM  
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2022-10-01 3:11:51 PM  

ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
[Fark user image image 640x480]
which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.


Yep. Had a buddy who was in the process of modding one to fit in an R/C plane back in the day. Now, cameras are tiny, but at the time, that was the bomb for his needs...
 
2022-10-01 3:13:43 PM  

kdawg7736: Jake Havechek: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

Yeah.  They had good home versions of arcade games graphics-wise, but I didn't like the controllers that much.

[Fark user image 425x419]

It does look like a phone for the bottom part but a knob for moving your character? I don't know if I would have able to get used to that.


They had overlays, so the buttons represented whatever they did in the game. 2, 4, 6, & 8, would represent arrow up, left, right, and down. But the overlay would show the arrows.
 
2022-10-01 3:42:00 PM  
I have a very vague memory of this, being in the backseat when my father got pulled over. The officer saw my Cabbage Patch Kid (Delmar Jay IIRC, thank you very much) being dangled out the open bit of the window by an ankle in the middle of a downpour and thought it might have been a baby. The officer was extremely relieved from what I'm told. I'm also told my father was not amused at the time and that would only come later.
 
2022-10-01 3:57:09 PM  
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2022-10-01 4:14:45 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Some Bass Playing Guy: Coleco popularized Cabbage Patch Dolls by mass marketing them. The originals were handmade. My grandmother had one.

People tried killing each other to get those things.


the Cabbage Patch Riots of 1983 were a real thing.

CABBAGE PATCH KIDS - December 1983 News Report
Youtube QRVhdrU1joA


never had a Colecovision though. last year or so I saw one for sale at a flea market for $100 and was tempted to buy it.  my wife has one from when she was a kid - she thinks it's somewhere in her parent's attic. may have to ask her to go find it someday
 
2022-10-01 4:18:45 PM  

poconojoe: Unsung_Hero: Some Bass Playing Guy: Coleco popularized Cabbage Patch Dolls by mass marketing them. The originals were handmade. My grandmother had one.

People tried killing each other to get those things.

the Cabbage Patch Riots of 1983 were a real thing.

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never had a Colecovision though. last year or so I saw one for sale at a flea market for $100 and was tempted to buy it.  my wife has one from when she was a kid - she thinks it's somewhere in her parent's attic. may have to ask her to go find it someday


Some bank had offers of free Cabbage Patch Kids for every $2,000 put into a new account. Granny got two of them, one for myself and one for my brother.

Thanks, Granny!
 
2022-10-01 4:47:27 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: I am seeing e-bikes all over the place though. I guess if it gets folks pedaling around that's good.

My parents would have given up on exercising if not for power-assist.  It's kept them active and healthier longer than they likely otherwise would have been.

For me, I do not currently have a bike but I wouldn't get anything without it because there are just too many hills here... plus it extends your range regardless of your fitness level.


Yup.  Lot of older folks and families with kids.  Mom and dad on e-bikes, and the kids just pedaling like mad because they have all the energy.

I live with lots of hills, too.   That last ride I mentioned, I got to the top and took a rest.   On the other side of the tunnel (the tunnel itself is like two miles long) is a big parking lot for the ski area and I guess a lot of people take two cars, drive over the pass and park there, then ride through the tunnel and down the hill to the state park at the other end of the trail.   Then go collect their car at the top.

Anyway, I ride to the top, and there are lots of bikes coming out of the tunnel heading down the hill.  One group stopped and a guy asked if I had just ridden up it.  I said yes, and he asked how it was.  "Uphill, the whoooole way" I said.   He seemed genuinely surprised I was riding back down, too.

Hills are good for you.  They will also turn you into a gram snob.  :)
 
2022-10-01 4:48:44 PM  

fifthofzen: ARE YOU READY FOR SOME(kind of) FOOTBALL?

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I had one of those, too!  Got to the point I could score a TD every down.
 
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NOW I GO IT!

HAH! nice
 
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