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2022-10-01 5:13:19 PM  

EnderWiggnz: Jake Havechek: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

Yeah.  They had good home versions of arcade games graphics-wise, but I didn't like the controllers that much.

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I got over it.

Amazing games, blew the rest of the consoles out of the water by a huge margin.


I had cousins with a console, and yes, it was a great performer.  Too bad the company tapped out, or it might have had successor systems like Nintendo, Sony et al.
 
2022-10-01 5:15:23 PM  
The Story of the Colecovision, What Could Have Been! - Video Game Retrospective
Youtube pkKKBgBXYSI
 
2022-10-01 5:59:33 PM  
Huh.  For some reason, leather companies that diversify into electronics seem to have a bad track record of crashing and burning after initial success.

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2022-10-01 6:04:47 PM  

craigzy: defender
popeye
qbert


No mention of Zaxxon?
 
2022-10-01 6:11:40 PM  

mjbok: craigzy: defender
popeye
qbert

No mention of Zaxxon?


sorry, im a girl on a budget (circa 1985).
 
2022-10-01 6:15:06 PM  
We had a Colecovision back in the day.  I was too young to be any good at the games, but what I remember most about it was the Atari cartridge adapter, which my dad played endless hours of Missile Command on. He also taught NBC warfare classes for the Army/National Guard.  I never connected those two things before today.
 
2022-10-01 6:16:34 PM  
Gil tries to sell Coleco Computers - The Simpsons Gems
Youtube wni4_n-Cmj4
 
2022-10-01 6:24:26 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

I have no idea what they're like now, but when I was a kid a Big Wheel was molded plastic except for the shaft connecting the pedals.  And usually you'd melt a hole in the front wheel about five minutes after the thing was put to use.

The reason I got the second Big Wheel is because I rode that hole to the point where the front tire split into two parts.  After the second one was ridden to it's demise, I got a "Green Machine" or something like that.   It was basically a Big Wheel with rear wheel steering and levers.

Then I got a bike.  Rubber tires have served me well.

A small part of me wants to build a 'Big Wheel' with proper bike parts, including handlebar brakes and a hub gear system so the pedals go into neutral while not providing power.  With a hub motor and a battery pack under the seat for power assist.  Then add a safety flag, because a recumbent trike is basically invisible to cars.  And an insulated trunk compartment in the back of the seat so you can carry snacks and such.  And maybe put an oversize fender around as much of the front wheel as possible not only to stop splashing but to avoid your legs contacting the wheel.

Now that would have been a fun thing to have as a kid.  Though e-bikes weren't a thing when I was that age, of course.


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2022-10-01 6:34:55 PM  
Meanwhile, the little doll with its own birth certificate sold 20 million in 1984, but antique toy appraiser and television personality Dr. Lori Verderame said bad company decisions and changing tastes were the beginning of the end.

"The Power Puff girls based on Japanese anime came along and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eventually pushed the Cabbage Patch Kid Dolls out of the way," Verderame said.


I hate to tell this supposed "expert", but Powe Puff Girls did NOTHING to affect Cabbage patch Kids. That shiat had plateaued well before that show ever appeared on TV. And TMNT? Not even close to the same scenario, I wouldn't say that kids buying those 15" TMNT action figures gave up a Cabbage Patch Doll for one. And once again, the real TMNT craze was around 1990. The real Cabbage Patch craze was over before then, too.
 
2022-10-01 6:54:24 PM  

fifthofzen: ARE YOU READY FOR SOME(kind of) FOOTBALL?

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Those were awesome. We really didn't need all of this shiat to have fun as kids.
 
2022-10-01 7:17:11 PM  

Bslim: yet_another_wumpus: Colecovision mark 1:

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Colecovision mark 2:
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My uncle had the first, I didn't really remember the second until googling the first image.  I don't think it was very popular.  Coleco just marketed the thing, Telstar built it, mostly thanks to a General Instrument AY-3-8500 chip.

PA appears to have made some real legends of the consumer silicon era of the time.  Other legends were MOS technologies (the dirt cheap but effective 6502), and Zilog (which briefly snatched the "compatible computer" crown away from Intel).


//you don't even see knock-offs now
///no idea they were Coleco.  If I was still riding them when I could read, the stickers were long worn off.

/what happened to big wheels anyway?

I found this thing on Amazon

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Ask Gallagher where he got his.
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2022-10-01 7:39:30 PM  
For modern video games is a monthly fee required to play or can you buy a game and play it either against the machine or against someone sitting next to you without having to pay extra for a gaming service?
 
2022-10-01 7:44:26 PM  

kdawg7736: Jake Havechek: kdawg7736: I have never seen a ColecoVision before. Was it a fun system to play?

Yeah.  They had good home versions of arcade games graphics-wise, but I didn't like the controllers that much.

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It does look like a phone for the bottom part but a knob for moving your character? I don't know if I would have able to get used to that.


You didn't really use the pad for game functions, just the joystick and the two side buttons.  Once you got used to it it was actually a pretty good joystick.  Hold it like a phone, use your thumb and middle finger for the buttons, other hand for the stick like it's a modern controller.  As weird and semi-useless as the # pad was, it functioned quite nicely as a controller and was ahead of it's time - the pad just makes you focus on that to the exclusion of the "actually functional for gaming" part

/yeah I had one, can you tell?
//I was bummed when they finally broke
///right side button functioned as an auto-fire for C-64 games
 
2022-10-01 8:25:41 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

I have no idea what they're like now, but when I was a kid a Big Wheel was molded plastic except for the shaft connecting the pedals.  And usually you'd melt a hole in the front wheel about five minutes after the thing was put to use.

The reason I got the second Big Wheel is because I rode that hole to the point where the front tire split into two parts.  After the second one was ridden to it's demise, I got a "Green Machine" or something like that.   It was basically a Big Wheel with rear wheel steering and levers.

Then I got a bike.  Rubber tires have served me well.

A small part of me wants to build a 'Big Wheel' with proper bike parts, including handlebar brakes and a hub gear system so the pedals go into neutral while not providing power.  With a hub motor and a battery pack under the seat for power assist.  Then add a safety flag, because a recumbent trike is basically invisible to cars.  And an insulated trunk compartment in the back of the seat so you can carry snacks and such.  And maybe put an oversize fender around as much of the front wheel as possible not only to stop splashing but to avoid your legs contacting the wheel.

Now that would have been a fun thing to have as a kid.  Though e-bikes weren't a thing when I was that age, of course.


I think you've just reinvented the Sinclair C5.

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2022-10-01 8:49:00 PM  
I got an AADAM.  It worked for very basic things.  It even had something called TurtleDOS.  Some computer/gamers magazines even had basic codes to make really basic 4 color games.  I tried to use it as a word processor.  I'd get 1 page printed, then it would puke random characters on the page.  There was no way to print a document mid-document.  Sending it for service got nothing fixed, they test it and nothing would ever fail.
 
2022-10-01 8:58:40 PM  

craigzy: defender
popeye
qbert


I also had:

War Games
Turbo
Zaxxon
Cosmic Avenger
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong jr.
Frogger
Galaxian
Defender
I found Popeye at a pawn shop too.

My friend had Rocky which needed some odd 3 buttoned controllers
 
2022-10-01 9:04:56 PM  

Jesstur: craigzy: defender
popeye
qbert

I also had:

War Games
Turbo
Zaxxon
Cosmic Avenger
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong jr.
Frogger
Galaxian
Defender
I found Popeye at a pawn shop too.

My friend had Rocky which needed some odd 3 buttoned controllers


Heh, had to watch a youtube to recall a few more

Venture
Subroc
 
2022-10-01 9:11:54 PM  

Jesstur: Heh, had to watch a youtube to recall a few more

Venture
Subroc

'

Venture' was pretty much my first d&d video game.
 
2022-10-01 9:13:06 PM  

Jesstur: craigzy: defender
popeye
qbert

I also had:

War Games
Turbo
Zaxxon
Cosmic Avenger
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong jr.
Frogger
Galaxian
Defender
I found Popeye at a pawn shop too.

My friend had Rocky which needed some odd 3 buttoned controllers


Bet it was this one:
Super Action..?
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I begged my parents for one, bit never got one and then the videogame thing collapsed for a while coontil Nintendo). Never got to try 'em..Wonder if they were actually any good.
 
2022-10-01 9:14:14 PM  

iron de havilland: Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: Unsung_Hero: Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

I have no idea what they're like now, but when I was a kid a Big Wheel was molded plastic except for the shaft connecting the pedals.  And usually you'd melt a hole in the front wheel about five minutes after the thing was put to use.

The reason I got the second Big Wheel is because I rode that hole to the point where the front tire split into two parts.  After the second one was ridden to it's demise, I got a "Green Machine" or something like that.   It was basically a Big Wheel with rear wheel steering and levers.

Then I got a bike.  Rubber tires have served me well.

A small part of me wants to build a 'Big Wheel' with proper bike parts, including handlebar brakes and a hub gear system so the pedals go into neutral while not providing power.  With a hub motor and a battery pack under the seat for power assist.  Then add a safety flag, because a recumbent trike is basically invisible to cars.  And an insulated trunk compartment in the back of the seat so you can carry snacks and such.  And maybe put an oversize fender around as much of the front wheel as possible not only to stop splashing but to avoid your legs contacting the wheel.

Now that would have been a fun thing to have as a kid.  Though e-bikes weren't a thing when I was that age, of course.

I think you've just reinvented the Sinclair C5.

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Nice find!  (Though not a 'Big Wheel').

It'd be fun to get one if it wasn't limited to about 2/3 the legal speed limit for an e-bike, and if it wasn't in dire need of a battery system upgrade (they're lead-acid powered).  And presumably you'd want to replace the lighting system too, because it's going to be incandescent (and probably dim on top of that).  So motor, electronics, battery, lights.  You'd essentially end with the original shell and not much else.

And then it's going to need a full canopy option for inclement weather.  Yeah, I know, that wasn't in my original suggestion for an upgraded Big Wheel, but things change!
 
2022-10-01 9:17:16 PM  

Mikey1969: Meanwhile, the little doll with its own birth certificate sold 20 million in 1984, but antique toy appraiser and television personality Dr. Lori Verderame said bad company decisions and changing tastes were the beginning of the end.

"The Power Puff girls based on Japanese anime came along and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eventually pushed the Cabbage Patch Kid Dolls out of the way," Verderame said.

I hate to tell this supposed "expert", but Powe Puff Girls did NOTHING to affect Cabbage patch Kids. That shiat had plateaued well before that show ever appeared on TV. And TMNT? Not even close to the same scenario, I wouldn't say that kids buying those 15" TMNT action figures gave up a Cabbage Patch Doll for one. And once again, the real TMNT craze was around 1990. The real Cabbage Patch craze was over before then, too.


I had the same reaction.  Coleco went under in 1988.  The first episode of the Powerpuff Girls aired in 1998.

And I don't recall it being a big toy craze, either.
 
2022-10-01 9:46:01 PM  

Dr. Bogenbroom: Gordon Bennett: Oh dear.

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Is that made from the Atari Jaguar mold?


It is. One of the ways funds were raised was selling new transparent replacement cases for the Jaguar.

Unfortunately it never included the CD-ROM addon to build the complete Atari Jaguar toilet.

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2022-10-01 9:47:17 PM  

Mikey1969: Meanwhile, the little doll with its own birth certificate sold 20 million in 1984, but antique toy appraiser and television personality Dr. Lori Verderame said bad company decisions and changing tastes were the beginning of the end.

"The Power Puff girls based on Japanese anime came along and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and eventually pushed the Cabbage Patch Kid Dolls out of the way," Verderame said.

I hate to tell this supposed "expert", but Powe Puff Girls did NOTHING to affect Cabbage patch Kids. That shiat had plateaued well before that show ever appeared on TV. And TMNT? Not even close to the same scenario, I wouldn't say that kids buying those 15" TMNT action figures gave up a Cabbage Patch Doll for one. And once again, the real TMNT craze was around 1990. The real Cabbage Patch craze was over before then, too.


I'm glad to now be old enough to be able to laugh in the face of "experts" who obviously couldn't have been alive during the events they are describing, trying to explain how WW2 caused WW1 somehow.
 
2022-10-01 10:32:03 PM  
I always wanted a Colecovision. My parents were super-cool and bought me an Atari 5200. How would they know it was an awesome system that was DOA. Beautiful graphics. Advanced nice controller. Awesome game play.

No games.
 
2022-10-01 10:35:05 PM  

ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
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which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.


My girlfriend in the Air Force had one of these. It needed metal cassettes. Pretty good video....

Yeah.. pretty good.
 
2022-10-01 10:45:02 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Fun fact: Atari was very close to becoming the North American distributor for the Nintendo Famicom in 1983, but they saw Coleco demoing Donkey Kong on a Coleco Adam computer at CES. This violated the Atari's exclusive license to sell the game on home computers, so it led to a huge fallout between Atari and Nintendo that caused the deal to get scuttled, pushing back the Famicom US release by two years and giving Nintendo its opening in the worldwide home console market.


Didn't the Adam feature a high-speed cassette based storage system? With 16k of memory and optional RS232 port?
 
2022-10-01 10:46:00 PM  

aerojockey: Huh.  For some reason, leather companies that diversify into electronics seem to have a bad track record of crashing and burning after initial success.

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They are still around.

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2022-10-01 10:47:06 PM  

Jake Havechek: In my neighborhood, there was a huge rivalry between those that had a Big Wheel and those that had a Green Machine.


We are the Green Machine Marines.!
We will flatten the little baby big wheels!
 
2022-10-01 10:52:21 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: You didn't really use the pad for game functions, just the joystick and the two side buttons.  Once you got used to it it was actually a pretty good joystick.  Hold it like a phone, use your thumb and middle finger for the buttons, other hand for the stick like it's a modern controller.  As weird and semi-useless as the # pad was, it functioned quite nicely as a controller and was ahead of it's time - the pad just makes you focus on that to the exclusion of the "actually functional for gaming" part


The number pads on those early consoles (Intellivision, ColecoVision, Atari 5200) may have been goofy, but they were an early acknowledgement that more complex games would require more complex controls.  Think about how quickly buttons proliferated on later gamepads:

NES - D-pad, two face buttons, two middle buttons
SNES - D-pad, four face buttons, two middle buttons, two shoulder buttons
PS1 - D-pad, four face buttons, two middle buttons, four shoulder buttons
PS2 - D-pad, four face buttons, two middle buttons, four shoulder buttons, two analog sticks, two stick buttons

That's sixteen digital switches and four analog axes, within a span of roughly 20 years.  A joystick with 14-17 buttons wasn't quite as silly as it seemed at the time.
 
2022-10-01 11:03:42 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: You didn't really use the pad for game functions, just the joystick and the two side buttons.  Once you got used to it it was actually a pretty good joystick.  Hold it like a phone, use your thumb and middle finger for the buttons, other hand for the stick like it's a modern controller.  As weird and semi-useless as the # pad was, it functioned quite nicely as a controller and was ahead of it's time - the pad just makes you focus on that to the exclusion of the "actually functional for gaming" part

The number pads on those early consoles (Intellivision, ColecoVision, Atari 5200) may have been goofy, but they were an early acknowledgement that more complex games would require more complex controls.  Think about how quickly buttons proliferated on later gamepads:

NES - D-pad, two face buttons, two middle buttons
SNES - D-pad, four face buttons, two middle buttons, two shoulder buttons
PS1 - D-pad, four face buttons, two middle buttons, four shoulder buttons
PS2 - D-pad, four face buttons, two middle buttons, four shoulder buttons, two analog sticks, two stick buttons

That's sixteen digital switches and four analog axes, within a span of roughly 20 years.  A joystick with 14-17 buttons wasn't quite as silly as it seemed at the time.


Oh undoubtedly, it was a pioneer in that.  The "actually a good" part comes in with the placement.  While an ordered grid on the front makes sense engineering-wise it's pretty useless gameplay-wise.  But beyond that I actually loved it as a controller (back in the days when essentially 2-button controllers were workable)
 
2022-10-01 11:38:58 PM  
Way too many Coke fueled golf outings?
 
2022-10-01 11:52:56 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: Rent Party: I had literally ridden the wheels off of two Big Wheels by the time I graduated to two wheel bikes.

But that article sucked.   It was paragraph after paragraph of "the rise" part of the headline, and about a sentence on the "and fall" part.  They did this, and it was a smash hit, then they did that, and it was a smash hit, then they did the other thing, and everyone loved it!  Then they launched the Adam.

The end.

Yeah, the full story is sadder than that. They basically had all their fads end at the same time. One of those fads was Trivial Pursuit -- they bought that long with Parcheese and Scrabble for $75 million on pretty much the exact day that the very last American household bought a copy.


All they had to do was make more question card packs to sell. But they didn't.
 
2022-10-02 12:02:21 AM  

HempHead: aerojockey: Huh.  For some reason, leather companies that diversify into electronics seem to have a bad track record of crashing and burning after initial success.

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They are still around.

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I used to think SweeTarts were made by Tandy too because it said "Tandy Candy" on the label - or so I thought.


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2022-10-02 12:12:41 AM  

paulleah: Mad_Radhu: Fun fact: Atari was very close to becoming the North American distributor for the Nintendo Famicom in 1983, but they saw Coleco demoing Donkey Kong on a Coleco Adam computer at CES. This violated the Atari's exclusive license to sell the game on home computers, so it led to a huge fallout between Atari and Nintendo that caused the deal to get scuttled, pushing back the Famicom US release by two years and giving Nintendo its opening in the worldwide home console market.

Didn't the Adam feature a high-speed cassette based storage system? With 16k of memory and optional RS232 port?


Not sure. I'm not super familiar with the Adam.
 
2022-10-02 12:14:46 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Dr. Bogenbroom: Gordon Bennett: Oh dear.

[Fark user image image 720x960]

Is that made from the Atari Jaguar mold?

It is. One of the ways funds were raised was selling new transparent replacement cases for the Jaguar.

Unfortunately it never included the CD-ROM addon to build the complete Atari Jaguar toilet.

[Fark user image image 663x594]


The Jaguar molds got a lot of use after the system wears discontinued.

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2022-10-02 12:15:08 AM  
*was discontinued
 
2022-10-02 12:48:23 AM  
Bslim:
Bet it was this one:
Super Action..?
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I begged my parents for one, bit never got one and then the videogame thing collapsed for a while coontil Nintendo). Never got to try 'em..Wonder if they were actually any good.


yeah, that was it.  This was the only game it used it on so I don't know if they ever made more games.
 
2022-10-02 12:59:34 AM  

paulleah: Mad_Radhu: Fun fact: Atari was very close to becoming the North American distributor for the Nintendo Famicom in 1983, but they saw Coleco demoing Donkey Kong on a Coleco Adam computer at CES. This violated the Atari's exclusive license to sell the game on home computers, so it led to a huge fallout between Atari and Nintendo that caused the deal to get scuttled, pushing back the Famicom US release by two years and giving Nintendo its opening in the worldwide home console market.

Didn't the Adam feature a high-speed cassette based storage system? With 16k of memory and optional RS232 port?


I remember the tape drive, that is how you loaded TurtleDOS and ADAM came with a tape loaded game too.  Buck Rodgers.  It had a second spot for maybe another drive but I never saw it as I finally gave up on it when I couldn't get more that a single page to print at a time.   I was too young to remember the rs232 though.
 
2022-10-02 2:10:55 AM  

WoodyHayes: I have a very vague memory of this, being in the backseat when my father got pulled over. The officer saw my Cabbage Patch Kid (Delmar Jay IIRC, thank you very much) being dangled out the open bit of the window by an ankle in the middle of a downpour and thought it might have been a baby. The officer was extremely relieved from what I'm told. I'm also told my father was not amused at the time and that would only come later.


The fact that he came at all from that scenario is pretty messed up, even if he delayed his gratification.
 
2022-10-02 6:42:06 AM  
Videogames on TV - (1998) Colecovision - South Park S02E10
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2022-10-02 8:59:27 AM  

Bslim: Jesstur: craigzy: defender
popeye
qbert

I also had:

War Games
Turbo
Zaxxon
Cosmic Avenger
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong jr.
Frogger
Galaxian
Defender
I found Popeye at a pawn shop too.

My friend had Rocky which needed some odd 3 buttoned controllers

Bet it was this one:
Super Action..?
[c8.alamy.com image 368x540]

I begged my parents for one, bit never got one and then the videogame thing collapsed for a while coontil Nintendo). Never got to try 'em..Wonder if they were actually any good.


My friend had a cilecovision with these styles of controllers. I remember playing an awesome baseball game with them that was better than all the Atari games ever and better than most of the C64 games available at that time.
 
2022-10-02 9:58:31 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Then add a safety flag, because a recumbent trike is basically invisible to cars.


Not that it'll make a difference...other things that are invisible to cars include other cars and whole-ass buildings.
 
2022-10-02 10:04:28 AM  

yet_another_wumpus: /what happened to big wheels anyway?
//you don't even see knock-offs now


They're too expensive.  Big Wheel costs $150 and the knockoffs are about half that.  A balance bike from a bicycle dealership (basically a bicycle with no pedals so kids can learn how to ride a bike without having to worry about pedalling) is like, $100.
 
2022-10-02 10:11:52 AM  

aerojockey: Huh.  For some reason, leather companies that diversify into electronics seem to have a bad track record of crashing and burning after initial success.

[bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 400x264]


Eeh.  I wouldn't exactly call it "initial" so much as "decades of".  Plus seems like RadioShack had a bit of return-to-roots-of-the-concept, and a new store opened in Claremore right after the whole "most of the chain is closing and we're getting rid of cellphones" thing.  It's still open.
 
2022-10-02 1:29:05 PM  

Baloo Uriza: yet_another_wumpus: /what happened to big wheels anyway?
//you don't even see knock-offs now

They're too expensive.  Big Wheel costs $150 and the knockoffs are about half that.  A balance bike from a bicycle dealership (basically a bicycle with no pedals so kids can learn how to ride a bike without having to worry about pedalling) is like, $100.


Checked prices and the googled images showed knockoffs at over $100.  (Branded) Little tykes car goes for less than $75.  Can't believe that the support of the car requires less plastic/molding work than the bigwheel, but it's possible (I'm an EE.  Statics was my worst class).  You'd think the knockoffs could be cheaper.

Could be a safety issue?  Easy enough to back over a bigwheel in a car, even easier in a SUV/CUV.  My dad insists they are *dangerous*.  Maybe he nearly backed over me (no memories of such).  Or just dad being dad (this was after his memory was iffy, but before it was really shot) because they were after his time (never heard him say such about the classic little red wagon, which was just as hard to see).
 
2022-10-02 2:08:43 PM  

ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
[Fark user image 640x480]
which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.


That began my career as a videographer with that toy.
 
2022-10-02 4:03:44 PM  

ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
[Fark user image image 640x480]
which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.


Oh, I wish I still had my PXL...
 
2022-10-02 8:57:59 PM  

alice_600: ZMugg: For some reason, whenever I see "Coleco Vision", I think of this:
[Fark user image 640x480]
which is a Fisher Price product ($150 as shown above).

It's a video camera that recorded on audio cassette tapes.

That began my career as a videographer with that toy.


Porn?
 
2022-10-02 10:00:40 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Checked prices and the googled images showed knockoffs at over $100.  (Branded) Little tykes car goes for less than $75.  Can't believe that the support of the car requires less plastic/molding work than the bigwheel, but it's possible (I'm an EE.  Statics was my worst class).  You'd think the knockoffs could be cheaper.


Plastic isn't as cheap as it used to be now that plastics can't contain softeners that are "forever chemicals" that leach into your body, and need to have less than the 500 year lifespan they had in the 80s.

yet_another_wumpus: Could be a safety issue?  Easy enough to back over a bigwheel in a car, even easier in a SUV/CUV.  My dad insists they are *dangerous*.  Maybe he nearly backed over me (no memories of such).  Or just dad being dad (this was after his memory was iffy, but before it was really shot) because they were after his time (never heard him say such about the classic little red wagon, which was just as hard to see).


They're dangerous more in that they lack effective traction, steering and braking at pretty much any speed, and they break easily after they've been in the sun and have some wear on the wheels.  I don't buy the visibility problems with large peoplesmashers to be a problem with big wheels, so much as the peoplesmashers, and maybe we should be reworking things so they're more of an option of last resort instead of the default.

Even without taking money into account I ended up getting my niece a balance bike instead of a bigwheel when she asked for a bigwheel because it seemed like a better value.  A balance bike is road legal when they're equipped with a brake (and brakes are standard equipment on models sold in the US), which means that they can use it on a cycleway and learn to ride on a family outing.  And now that she's outgrown the balance bike, whenever she's in town she wants to bring her current bike along so she can go ride with me.  My SIL wishes Fayetteville would get its shiat together and make cycletracks and safe intersections so she can just boot her out the door when she wants to go ride around or head to a friend's, most of the main roads don't have bike lanes and the ones that do are both usually brand new and of a design that's been obsolete for 30 years due to the lack of buffer from motorists or curbs to keep motorists out...
 
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