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(YouTube)   So you want a new addiction in the 4X flavor? Watch this Civ streamer tackle Terra Invicta, where you micromanage PR, politics, climate change, military and research in mankind's squabbling in response to imminent alien arrival   (youtube.com) divider line
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2022-10-01 10:52:23 AM  
The biggest thing wrong about Watchmen was the idea that the threat of an alien invasion would unite humanity.
 
2022-10-01 11:16:21 AM  
Heeeey, Spuddies!
 
2022-10-01 12:01:22 PM  
DEAR GOD THAT TECH TREE.

And it's only a partial screenshot he shows. It lags your computer for 20 seconds to load the full version?

Sounds fascinating but looks like a micromanaging lifesink.
 
2022-10-01 12:05:05 PM  
I'm intrigued, I like complicated 4x but it's seriously a lot of systems to juggle and I don't know I have the braincells to spare anymore.
 
2022-10-01 12:16:21 PM  

Practical_Draconian: DEAR GOD THAT TECH TREE.

And it's only a partial screenshot he shows. It lags your computer for 20 seconds to load the full version?

Sounds fascinating but looks like a micromanaging lifesink.


Those kinds of games are my jam.
 
2022-10-01 12:26:42 PM  

Practical_Draconian: DEAR GOD THAT TECH TREE.

And it's only a partial screenshot he shows. It lags your computer for 20 seconds to load the full version?

Sounds fascinating but looks like a micromanaging lifesink.


I don't want to manage my life to that level, let alone a game
 
2022-10-01 1:00:24 PM  
Potato is my favorite Civ streamer out there. Hard to imagine that he's probably the biggest one since I started watching him when he was in the low thousands for sub count.
 
2022-10-01 2:50:09 PM  
When this was initially announced, it got me daydreaming about a game with this kind of strategy layer that then has tactical XCOM-style missions and battles. The full alien invasion simulation experience.
 
2022-10-01 4:06:39 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The biggest thing wrong about Watchmen was the idea that the threat of an alien invasion would unite humanity.


I think that's kinda the point. When Veidt asks John how things will end up and John says "nothing ever ends," that's what he's talking about. He might have postponed the immediate threat, but ultimately it's just going to keep going because nothing has fundamentally changed. You see it in the show/sequel too, where Veidt has to keep upping the fear factor by dumping small squid-aliens from the sky and showing it's an ongoing threat, but people have just become numb to it and view alien invasion as an inconvenience rather than an existential threat.
 
2022-10-01 4:24:49 PM  
I've put in over 1000 hours into LW2 and only beaten it once.

Once this thing leaves early access I'm grabbing it.
 
2022-10-01 6:01:16 PM  
Soooo...

X-Com. But more micromanaging?
 
2022-10-01 7:35:48 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: I'm intrigued, I like complicated 4x but it's seriously a lot of systems to juggle and I don't know I have the braincells to spare anymore.


If you stimulate them, more brain occur, make it go
 
2022-10-01 7:37:40 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The biggest thing wrong about Watchmen was the idea that the threat of an alien invasion would unite humanity.


The biggest thing wrong about Watchmen was Jon pole dancing.

It was not right.
 
2022-10-01 8:31:56 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Soooo...

X-Com. But more micromanaging?


Didn't you feel X-Com could have been micromanaged a little more? (Honest question.)

It seemed a bit flat, to me.
 
2022-10-01 9:27:07 PM  

germ78: Potato is my favorite Civ streamer out there. Hard to imagine that he's probably the biggest one since I started watching him when he was in the low thousands for sub count.


I have 3 YouTube subs, and he's one of them. Fun and informative.
 
2022-10-01 11:05:00 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: RoyFokker'sGhost: Soooo...

X-Com. But more micromanaging?

Didn't you feel X-Com could have been micromanaged a little more? (Honest question.)

It seemed a bit flat, to me.


Honestly? X-Com was just fine where it was. I don't particularly care for detailed land management in a squad tactics game, nor detailed squad tactics in a land management game. Pick one or the other; I don't have the spoons for both in one game.
 
2022-10-02 4:50:23 AM  

PartTimeBuddha: LowbrowDeluxe: I'm intrigued, I like complicated 4x but it's seriously a lot of systems to juggle and I don't know I have the braincells to spare anymore.

If you stimulate them, more brain occur, make it go


The difference between good depth in a game a stupid tedious bullshiat designed for the sole purpose of increasing metrics is about the size of jupiter. Companies, especially 4x companies, have been on the wrong side of this for the better part of a decade and they dont seem interested in fixing their stupidity.
 
2022-10-02 5:33:06 AM  
Concrete Donkey:

Girl, you really need an orgy.
 
2022-10-02 7:01:40 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: PartTimeBuddha: RoyFokker'sGhost: Soooo...

X-Com. But more micromanaging?

Didn't you feel X-Com could have been micromanaged a little more? (Honest question.)

It seemed a bit flat, to me.

Honestly? X-Com was just fine where it was. I don't particularly care for detailed land management in a squad tactics game, nor detailed squad tactics in a land management game. Pick one or the other; I don't have the spoons for both in one game.


The biggest problem with the XCOM games, any of them, is that the strategic layer only winds up interesting for about half the game. At some point, you go from nail biting everything to knowing you'll steamroll whatever is left, and all you have to do is not not wipe out your squad. That's fun, and it takes longer to get there in games that support mods that draw out the campaign, but every title has that issue.

My guess is that this game has that too. A player that gets control of The USA and either Asia or The EU probably sets the tone for everything left to do in the strategic game, but so far at least, it seems nicely varied. I appreciate that there are occasional setbacks in secure places, not just forward planning.
 
2022-10-02 9:33:16 AM  
I guess I should've known "obscure for fark" isn't a thing.... I picked up Civ 6 when it was free and have been loving it.....and independently discovered potato and the civilifer and enjoy their helpy videos.  Genuinely surprsed to see one of their vids as a greenlight.
 
2022-10-02 10:06:25 AM  

PartTimeBuddha: RoyFokker'sGhost: Soooo...

X-Com. But more micromanaging?

Didn't you feel X-Com could have been micromanaged a little more? (Honest question.)

It seemed a bit flat, to me.


You might want to give Troubleshooters: Abandoned Children a look.  Gameplay-wise, the TRPG aspect is a lot like the XCOM reboots, but with a hell of a lot more mechanics, upgrades, and character customization going on between the actual missions.  The localization isn't amazing (it's an indie South Korean studio, and it shows at times), but it's serviceable, and the game's pretty much always on sale for a really good price.
 
2022-10-02 10:29:26 AM  
Cautiously optimistic about this one, I loved the Longwar and Longwar 2 takes on XCOM...but only after further adding more 3rd party mods to tone down the brutality/micro-managey default LW experience.
 
2022-10-02 2:01:59 PM  

Practical_Draconian: DEAR GOD THAT TECH TREE.

And it's only a partial screenshot he shows. It lags your computer for 20 seconds to load the full version?

Sounds fascinating but looks like a micromanaging lifesink.


It takes me a good 3-5 seconds on my i7-11800 that's not even a year old.

It... I'm not even sure what to think of it yet. I'm 10 hours in and there's a ton of micromanaging. On the other hand, I made the idiotic mistake of trying to take over South America instead of going anywhere that's a good step forward towards later game goals, so I spend all my time eradicating corruption and educating and building and modernizing economies.

It's a bit depressing to think that it's anything like doing the same would be in real life, though in real life we do have more concrete examples of regime change greatly impacting corruption. In this game, corruption is just a byproduct of low GDP and uneducated people, with is a bit of an ugly shortcut if you ask me.

/ Not trying to brag, but a lot of streamers have systems that topped out with the last generation of console hardware, so they're not running on newer gear. It's not surprising they take a long time to open the tech tree
// okay, maybe bragging a little bit
 
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