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(Fox 4 News Dallas)   Imported baby formula, which was only supposed to be on the American market through November, gets an extension of its best-by date   (fox4news.com) divider line
    More: Cool, Joe Biden, Food and Drug Administration, U.S. regulators, foreign baby formula manufacturers, Manufacturing, U.S. market, United States, Federal government of the United States  
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1150 clicks; posted to Main » on 01 Oct 2022 at 12:05 AM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-10-01 12:13:37 AM  
Good, if foreign manufacturers can meet the same standards then there's no reason to bar them if the first place. FDA inspections have been a joke my whole life so it's not like they'll be doing worse as long as they operate in a country with a functioning regulator.
 
2022-10-01 12:21:22 AM  
Oh wow...we did something sane and logical. How about that!
 
2022-10-01 12:30:20 AM  
There's a French company that makes formula here in New Zealand called Aptamil that is helping to fill the gap. New Zealand's cattle is pasture-fed, so there'll be more omega 3 than milk coming from grain fed stock.
 
2022-10-01 12:32:27 AM  

pollyprepper: Oh wow...we did something sane and logical. How about that!


Although I agree with  you, this is highly unusual for Fark. Do you also agree this is the best approach for, say, manufacturing, electronics, petroleum, etc.?
 
2022-10-01 12:33:42 AM  

robodog: Good, if foreign manufacturers can meet the same standards then there's no reason to bar them if the first place. FDA inspections have been a joke my whole life so it's not like they'll be doing worse as long as they operate in a country with a functioning regulator.


 There is a lot of fear built up around the foreign formulas. When my child was born and developed a milk allergy, I was trying to find healthy alternatives to the limited formulas on the market here. My pediatrician very quickly discouraged using any foreign formulas. After trial and error, i had to opt for one here. It was a nightmare and we had to deal with horrible diaper rash and intermittent diarrhea for months.

We need more options.
 
2022-10-01 12:35:20 AM  
So long as it's not any of the BRICS nations making it we're good.
 
2022-10-01 12:46:12 AM  

thisispete: There's a French company that makes formula here in New Zealand called Aptamil


Are they from Brest?
 
2022-10-01 12:49:14 AM  
Our baby is thriving on formula from the Wuhan markets. Just look at those muscles!

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2022-10-01 12:50:38 AM  

pollyprepper: Oh wow...we did something sane and logical. How about that!


With the right conditions even  amoebas and the federal government are capable of learning .
 
2022-10-01 12:56:34 AM  

Loucifer: Our baby is thriving on formula from the Wuhan markets. Just look at those muscles!

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Oh, dear God! You must be so proud!
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2022-10-01 1:02:21 AM  

Shryke: pollyprepper: Oh wow...we did something sane and logical. How about that!

Although I agree with  you, this is highly unusual for Fark. Do you also agree this is the best approach for, say, manufacturing, electronics, petroleum, etc.?


Don't we do that already? With electronics, oil, and textiles. Import them from all over the world.

I was under the impression we didn't allow imported baby formula because of strict regulations (which I am all for keeping) but the ones we had let in due to the shortage were already approved.

Whoever is in charge of that shiat, they should really regulate all that junk coming in from China. We don't need most of it, its filling up our landfill with plastics and god knows what.
 
2022-10-01 1:08:13 AM  

Wendigogo: robodog: Good, if foreign manufacturers can meet the same standards then there's no reason to bar them if the first place. FDA inspections have been a joke my whole life so it's not like they'll be doing worse as long as they operate in a country with a functioning regulator.

There is a lot of fear built up around the foreign formulas. When my child was born and developed a milk allergy, I was trying to find healthy alternatives to the limited formulas on the market here. My pediatrician very quickly discouraged using any foreign formulas. After trial and error, i had to opt for one here. It was a nightmare and we had to deal with horrible diaper rash and intermittent diarrhea for months.

We need more options.


It really depends on the source of the 'foreign' manufacturers. Many of the EU food safety regulations and product standards are stricter than the US standards so so they are /likely/ equal or better than the US version, but even then you have no control over logistic part of the supply chain. For all you know those pallets of milk powder have been sitting on a 120F tarmac in the phoenix sun for three months before you got your hands on it.

Don't know if it's still the case, but a couple of years ago there were formula shortages across Europe as well, thanks to a bunch of scandals with Chinese milk powder -- Chinese parents no longer trusted the local Chinese supply, and would pay $$$ for grey market imports of European baby formula instead. European grocery stores ended up having to limit quantities because Chinese middlemen would literally buy their entire stock from the shelves leading to local shortages.
 
2022-10-01 1:13:56 AM  

Excelsior: Wendigogo: robodog: Good, if foreign manufacturers can meet the same standards then there's no reason to bar them if the first place. FDA inspections have been a joke my whole life so it's not like they'll be doing worse as long as they operate in a country with a functioning regulator.

There is a lot of fear built up around the foreign formulas. When my child was born and developed a milk allergy, I was trying to find healthy alternatives to the limited formulas on the market here. My pediatrician very quickly discouraged using any foreign formulas. After trial and error, i had to opt for one here. It was a nightmare and we had to deal with horrible diaper rash and intermittent diarrhea for months.

We need more options.

It really depends on the source of the 'foreign' manufacturers. Many of the EU food safety regulations and product standards are stricter than the US standards so so they are /likely/ equal or better than the US version, but even then you have no control over logistic part of the supply chain. For all you know those pallets of milk powder have been sitting on a 120F tarmac in the phoenix sun for three months before you got your hands on it.

Don't know if it's still the case, but a couple of years ago there were formula shortages across Europe as well, thanks to a bunch of scandals with Chinese milk powder -- Chinese parents no longer trusted the local Chinese supply, and would pay $$$ for grey market imports of European baby formula instead. European grocery stores ended up having to limit quantities because Chinese middlemen would literally buy their entire stock from the shelves leading to local shortages.


True. It's less likely, but couldn't a similar problem with logistics happen here with American-based formulas? A whole pallet of formula sitting in a warehouse in the dead of summer for months? Not during a shortage, of course...
 
2022-10-01 1:20:58 AM  

Wendigogo: Excelsior: Wendigogo: robodog: Good, if foreign manufacturers can meet the same standards then there's no reason to bar them if the first place. FDA inspections have been a joke my whole life so it's not like they'll be doing worse as long as they operate in a country with a functioning regulator.

There is a lot of fear built up around the foreign formulas. When my child was born and developed a milk allergy, I was trying to find healthy alternatives to the limited formulas on the market here. My pediatrician very quickly discouraged using any foreign formulas. After trial and error, i had to opt for one here. It was a nightmare and we had to deal with horrible diaper rash and intermittent diarrhea for months.

We need more options.

It really depends on the source of the 'foreign' manufacturers. Many of the EU food safety regulations and product standards are stricter than the US standards so so they are /likely/ equal or better than the US version, but even then you have no control over logistic part of the supply chain. For all you know those pallets of milk powder have been sitting on a 120F tarmac in the phoenix sun for three months before you got your hands on it.

Don't know if it's still the case, but a couple of years ago there were formula shortages across Europe as well, thanks to a bunch of scandals with Chinese milk powder -- Chinese parents no longer trusted the local Chinese supply, and would pay $$$ for grey market imports of European baby formula instead. European grocery stores ended up having to limit quantities because Chinese middlemen would literally buy their entire stock from the shelves leading to local shortages.

True. It's less likely, but couldn't a similar problem with logistics happen here with American-based formulas? A whole pallet of formula sitting in a warehouse in the dead of summer for months? Not during a shortage, of course...


Of course. Food items ordered from Amazon have always been an absolute crapshoot, "air conditioning" is just considered an unnecessary luxury for a warehouse after all.
 
2022-10-01 1:49:45 AM  
And somehow subby seems to think this is bad?
 
2022-10-01 2:04:55 AM  
For safety purposes it's obviously nice to be able to track production of something like baby formula to make sure it's okay and not going to just suddenly cause a hundred babies to die of botulism or ingest lead shavings and become stupid.

The other problem I guess is stability of supply since you don't want to be switching formula brands every time the little tike takes a steamer since those little humans have finicky digestive and nutritional requirements like a puppy only you can't force it to stay outside to think about what it's done when it pees on the floor.

So if that's solved then I guess it doesn't matter if it's floated on a boat across the great big moat.
 
2022-10-01 2:20:23 AM  
I hate that we have to even consider importing food.  But since we want everything cheap and refuse to pay what it will actually cost to manufacture it here, can we at least not to source from countries that hate us?

Melamine in formula was all the rage a while back in China.  That's a fad I don't want to see sweep our nation.  But knowing our corporate tyrants, that will be the only source we'll consider, because stock holder value must be considered way ahead of product safety.
 
2022-10-01 8:16:13 AM  
Meanwhile, formula companies PAY OB-GYN's to distribute free formula. I once knew a doctor who opened first consultations by admitting this, informing the woman he would not give her any formula because he donated it to a food bank, and stating that he used the money to defray the costs of taking patients that had no insurance; could not afford his services.

Formula companies also print how-to guides on breastfeeding with known misinformation which drastically reduces the likelihood of successful breastfeeding. These brochures are often placed in doctors' offices and in baby stores.

In the past, Formula companies have even taught women here and abroad that formula is more nutritious and safer than breast milk.
 
2022-10-01 10:34:58 AM  

Bruscar: Meanwhile, formula companies PAY OB-GYN's to distribute free formula. I once knew a doctor who opened first consultations by admitting this, informing the woman he would not give her any formula because he donated it to a food bank, and stating that he used the money to defray the costs of taking patients that had no insurance; could not afford his services.

Formula companies also print how-to guides on breastfeeding with known misinformation which drastically reduces the likelihood of successful breastfeeding. These brochures are often placed in doctors' offices and in baby stores.

In the past, Formula companies have even taught women here and abroad that formula is more nutritious and safer than breast milk.


Like Nestle...
 
2022-10-01 12:45:58 PM  
Our younger kid wasn't much for breastfeeding. We got HIPP because it was clearly a better formula than what is available here. Much less sugar.
 
2022-10-01 1:11:51 PM  
problem solved
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2022-10-01 1:20:59 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: problem solved
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A lot of women aren't able to breastfeed for various reasons. So, no, it isn't "problem solved".
 
2022-10-01 4:55:30 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: problem solved
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And fark all the babies whose mom doesn't create sufficient milk or can't breastfeed, or don't have a mom at all, or for a million other reasons, right?
 
2022-10-01 6:25:36 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: problem solved
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Not an option for everyone

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