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(ABC7 San Francisco)   "Snitches get stitches" is now official policy of Oakland...City Schools administrators   (abc7news.com) divider line
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Thoreny
2022-09-30 7:22:22 PM  
25 votes:
"Don't talk to cops" is a very popular Fark rallying cry.
 
TomDooley
2022-09-30 7:31:52 PM  
17 votes:
FTA:

"law enforcement sources tell us ..."

"Law enforcement sources tell ..."

"the I-Team's Dan Noyes asked Oakland Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong about that information. He answered .."

"connections inside the police department tell ... "

"law enforcement sources tell us .."

"police sources tell me .."

Pure Copaganda.
 
Red Shirt Blues
2022-09-30 6:01:34 PM  
14 votes:
I started my career in public accounting by auditing school systems. The administrators are gangsters. They have the nicest offices and pay and they over emphasize their job importance to keep control of the money. And when you come to audit them they shield you from the rank and file. This was in New Jersey but I guess it's the same all around.
 
oopsboom
2022-09-30 7:58:20 PM  
14 votes:
read up on it a bit.

if you know something about the shooting get a lawyer and do what the lawyer tells you to do.  protect yourself first.
if the cops are coming to you its b/c they want to blame you for the shooting.
if the school admin is coming to you it's b/c they want to blame you for the shooting.

the school admin is 100% right in saying "dont talk to the cops" but dont talk to THEM either.  if you know or saw anything get a lawyer and prepare a statement through them so they you can present what you know in a way that
1. doesn't open you to suspicion by being someone who knows things that the cops think only the criminal knows
2. protects you from being the scapegoat for bringing information out if that info makes someone in power look bad
 
oopsboom
2022-09-30 7:23:47 PM  
11 votes:
tfa: law enforcement sources tell us school officials have sent text messages to shooting victims, instructing them not to cooperate with police

i know nothing about what happened...and i can tell you that's the best thing anyone has told those kids.
 
Alaskan Yoda [recently expired TotalFark]
2022-09-30 7:38:44 PM  
10 votes:

Red Shirt Blues: I started my career in public accounting by auditing school systems. The administrators are gangsters. They have the nicest offices and pay and they over emphasize their job importance to keep control of the money. And when you come to audit them they shield you from the rank and file. This was in New Jersey but I guess it's the same all around.


So much this.
Part of the reason we have a teaching shortage is how god awful admin is. 15 years in education and I have had the worst bosses in this field, hands down.
 
Alaskan Yoda [recently expired TotalFark]
2022-09-30 7:39:28 PM  
7 votes:

Thoreny: "Don't talk to cops" is a very popular Fark rallying cry.


Sadly, it's smart advice.

Our cops are turning into the Gestapo.
 
Bandito King [OhFark]
2022-09-30 8:00:52 PM  
7 votes:
"Some police personnel is angry."

"Some police personnel is angry."

"Some police personnel is angry."

Great job, reporter.

Also, yes admin typically suck. However, cops also suck and it looks like maybe they have a beef with the school district about booting uniformed officers off campus. Probably for harassing kids. So when cops say "they won't cooperate" I hear, "they still won't let us harass the black kids!"
 
danvon
2022-09-30 7:33:05 PM  
6 votes:
If you have a problem, and you call the cops, you now have two problems.

/Not serious for this situation, but not universally unserious.
 
Thoreny
2022-09-30 7:24:57 PM  
5 votes:

oopsboom: tfa: law enforcement sources tell us school officials have sent text messages to shooting victims, instructing them not to cooperate with police

i know nothing about what happened...and i can tell you that's the best thing anyone has told those kids.


Absolutely. It'll let whoever do this finish the job without impediment.
 
SBinRR [OhFark]
2022-09-30 7:24:37 PM  
4 votes:
Cop or school administrators...

I can't decide!
 
the voice of raisin
2022-09-30 7:33:30 PM  
4 votes:

TomDooley: FTA:

"law enforcement sources tell us ..."

"Law enforcement sources tell ..."

"the I-Team's Dan Noyes asked Oakland Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong about that information. He answered .."

"connections inside the police department tell ... "

"law enforcement sources tell us .."

"police sources tell me .."

Pure Copaganda.


because everyone always cooperates with police, including yourself.
 
Dr. DJ Duckhunt [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-09-30 7:38:54 PM  
3 votes:

SBinRR: Cop or school administrators...

I can't decide!


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*preview is your friend
 
Alaskan Yoda [recently expired TotalFark]
2022-09-30 7:40:08 PM  
3 votes:

SBinRR: Cop or school administrators...

I can't decide!


Admins.

I've met a few good cops.
 
morg
2022-09-30 9:39:54 PM  
3 votes:

TomDooley: FTA:

"law enforcement sources tell us ..."

"Law enforcement sources tell ..."

"the I-Team's Dan Noyes asked Oakland Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong about that information. He answered .."

"connections inside the police department tell ... "

"law enforcement sources tell us .."

"police sources tell me .."

Pure Copaganda.


I want to hear the exact wording of the text. Could have been something like "Don't talk to police without your parents or a lawyer present" which translates into cop as "instructed not to cooperate with police".
 
oopsboom
2022-10-01 1:23:54 AM  
3 votes:

CruiserTwelve: oopsboom: if you know something about the shooting get a lawyer and do what the lawyer tells you to do.  protect yourself first.
if the cops are coming to you its b/c they want to blame you for the shooting.
if the school admin is coming to you it's b/c they want to blame you for the shooting.

Nah, just refuse to talk to the cops. Then, when you're the victim of a crime, whine about the cops not doing anything about it because none of the witnesses will talk to them.


bolded relevant part.  if you're already a victim cops arent doing fark all for you.  you're already a victim.
you need civil courts to award you damages.  you need counselling to help you get over the trauma.  you hopefully already got medical aid if you needed it.
all cops are doing is filling out paperwork that a crime happened.

the one can help with the other.  but its a double edged sword.  the cops can screw you over in their quest to close all the files nice and neat just as easily as they can make it easier to get your insurance and such closed out.
 
Bslim
2022-09-30 7:30:31 PM  
2 votes:
"After the shooting on Wednesday, Rudsdale High School did not tell any student not to cooperate with police"

Now *THAT'S* how you weasel, folks.
 
Snort
2022-09-30 7:38:42 PM  
2 votes:
https://twitter.com/InvokeTheFifth/status/1575920669333897225?s=20&t=VH97AF-1tE4pyiUn_OOX4w

It is Friday.
 
SimonElectric
2022-09-30 8:39:51 PM  
2 votes:
And the blame game staaarts...now!
 
CruiserTwelve
2022-10-01 12:19:41 AM  
2 votes:

oopsboom: if you know something about the shooting get a lawyer and do what the lawyer tells you to do.  protect yourself first.
if the cops are coming to you its b/c they want to blame you for the shooting.
if the school admin is coming to you it's b/c they want to blame you for the shooting.


Nah, just refuse to talk to the cops. Then, when you're the victim of a crime, whine about the cops not doing anything about it because none of the witnesses will talk to them.
 
WhippingBoi
2022-09-30 7:42:04 PM  
1 vote:
If you're an American, and you haven't spent the last six years of your life doing anything and everything to get yourself to a sane country, you are most definitely part of the problem.
 
misanthropicsob [OhFark]
2022-09-30 7:43:16 PM  
1 vote:

TomDooley: FTA:

"law enforcement sources tell us ..."

"Law enforcement sources tell ..."

"the I-Team's Dan Noyes asked Oakland Police Chief LeRonne Armstrong about that information. He answered .."

"connections inside the police department tell ... "

"law enforcement sources tell us .."

"police sources tell me .."

Pure Copaganda.


Yeah, that actually stuck out to me too.
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-10-01 2:25:59 AM  
1 vote:
Who would you trust less, cops or schools?
 
ThighsofGlory
2022-10-01 10:21:02 AM  
1 vote:
How is it possible that there could be a school shooting this close to an election and it didn't make the national news?
 
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