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(Salon)   At least there is one judge that remembers her oath to support and defend Donald J. Trump against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I was beginning to worry   (salon.com) divider line
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2022-09-30 2:29:52 PM  
FFS, this judge blows ... TFG.
 
2022-09-30 2:40:40 PM  
Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.
 
2022-09-30 2:50:07 PM  
Finally, the swamp is drained!
 
2022-09-30 3:23:22 PM  

Jake Havechek: Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.


He's the hero of the mentally deficient.
 
2022-09-30 3:26:08 PM  
Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?
 
2022-09-30 3:26:24 PM  

Jake Havechek: Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.


Exactly this.
I don't get why people think there's more to any Trumpers than that.  No leverage or angle or monetary reward necessary.
 
2022-09-30 3:26:47 PM  
Im🍑 .
 
2022-09-30 3:27:09 PM  

Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?


He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.
 
2022-09-30 3:28:34 PM  
She probably thinks he's getting elected/selected as president again, and he would 100% elevate her to a higher court, given how much she's helped him here.
 
2022-09-30 3:29:28 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Jake Havechek: Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.

Exactly this.
I don't get why people think there's more to any Trumpers than that.  No leverage or angle or monetary reward necessary.


Proof of a rampaging epidemic of mental illness that beggars COVID and the Black Death put together.
 
2022-09-30 3:29:38 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.


He's Biff Tannen.  That shtick works with people obsessed with bullies exerting their power.
 
2022-09-30 3:31:32 PM  

Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?


He normalized being a racist dumb piece of shiat. We used to try to keep these people in the corner, now they are in every media outlet and government office you turn to.
 
2022-09-30 3:31:32 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.


I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.
 
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2022-09-30 3:33:13 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


Turns out the people who can barely form a sentence also have heroes
 
2022-09-30 3:33:26 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


You probably didn't have an abusive father. It would make more sense to you if you had.
 
2022-09-30 3:33:32 PM  

Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?


He gives them license to outwardly be the sh*tty people they always have been.

They hate us. We hate him, so they love him. It's really that simple. They just hate "liberals" that much. They want to be the worst they want and they want no one to stop them.
 
2022-09-30 3:33:48 PM  

Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?


Remember a couple years ago when they all thought that 5G was going to turn us into Bill Gates clones or gay frogs or something?  Huge numbers of people were up in arms about it.. .they were protesting in front of phone companies, burning cell towers etc etc etc

And then it all went away overnight.

You know why they stopped thinking that? Because of scientific evidence & data? No... they stopped thinking that because the media stopped telling them to think it. A certain portion of the population fervently believes everything they see on tv as the gospel truth... and then they carried that philosophy over to FB groups & OANN and Q-news. Tell them to microwave their phone & they do it, tell them that zombie JFK is coming to Dallas & they line up to see him. Tell them that the election was fixed & they try to burn down the capitol building.  No questions asked, no evidence required. The TV said it, they want to believe it, and so they do. Facts dont matter.
 
2022-09-30 3:34:41 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


Unfortunately that is considered 'genius' to 1/3rd of the US population.
 
2022-09-30 3:34:41 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


Exactly.
He doesn't talk like a "politician".  He doesn't act like a "politician".  No measured responses, no rules of debate.  He just gets up there and rambles and "tells it like it is" and insults people like a big jerk and they eat that stuff up.
 
2022-09-30 3:35:09 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.

Exactly.
He doesn't talk like a "politician".  He doesn't act like a "politician".  No measured responses, no rules of debate.  He just gets up there and rambles and "tells it like it is" and insults people like a big jerk and they eat that stuff up.


He's stupid, and they're stupid. And they hate people who are smarter than they are.
 
2022-09-30 3:36:35 PM  

Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?


Trump has the sort of talk, presence and narrative that would serve well for cult leader.  He's exactly the sort of guy that, if he didn't have money, easily would have lead thousands to somewhere remote, emptied their bank accounts and let them die in some sort of natural disaster or disease and called it "God's Will."

Look at dude's like Koresh, Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite, it's not charisma that's overtly detectable.  Fully detectable is the sort of thing that a Con Man would have.  Trump has the ability to use both when he needs to.

His narrative is that he's the person that they all aspire to be, so wealthy that they can do whatever they want and everyone is threatened by them, including governments.
 
2022-09-30 3:36:45 PM  
There should be an ability for her peers to vote her off the island. Leaving the decision to impeach a lifetime position to congress only propagates political appointments.
 
2022-09-30 3:36:58 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.


Officer Barrelroll: I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


It's simple. He's not charismatic at all. Nobody can stand the man.

He's just a symbol of unbridled hate. He's just a living example that conservatives are now free to publicly say the most vile, hateful things they can imagine, and they will have the support of millions of other vile, hateful people.

Trump has gotten booed by his followers a few times. It's not Trump they follow; it's Trumpisim, and even Trump himself is often not Trumpy enough for the Trumpers.

They are committed to hate, not to the man.
 
2022-09-30 3:37:20 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.


He reminds me of a 5th grade bully. It's just weird that that is charismatic to some adults.
 
2022-09-30 3:38:16 PM  

Kris_Romm: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

He's Biff Tannen.  That shtick works with people obsessed with bullies exerting their power.

He's literally Biff Tannen, as in the writers of Back to the Future II based Alternate-Timeline Biff (the mob-boss one with the Pleasure Palace gambling resort gained from betting on things known from the future thanks to the almanac provided by his future self) directly on Donald Trump as he was at the time.
 
2022-09-30 3:38:59 PM  
conservative corrosion of justice at the district court level and at the USSC level does not bode well for a democracy

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Stack all the courts!!!
 
2022-09-30 3:39:01 PM  
The judiciary is important? No way!
 
2022-09-30 3:39:14 PM  
And it takes both a "high crime and misdemeanor" and 2/3rds of the Senate to remove her.  Gotta love the Trump/McConnel/Federalist Society dumpster-to-bench pipeline.
 
2022-09-30 3:39:28 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


To which his fans reply
"LOL lOoK HoW triGGeReD tHe Libby Lib is! GoOd Job bOsS! HAWHAW!"

If you ask them for any substantive reasoning, you get none; because they didn't get where they are BY reason, and they don't love him FOR being reasonable.

/I feel there is a correlation to be made between TFG's cult and a general decline in educational standards, a corrupt media and civic programs being gutted by Republicans
//and ignored by Democrats.
///Maybe.
 
2022-09-30 3:40:05 PM  
Whether Trump has something on this judge or not is irrelevant. Oftentimes we see assholes like her acting out of sheer partisan ideology.

The important part here is that this judge is doing her damndest to get Donnie farkface off the book.
 
2022-09-30 3:40:42 PM  
You combine this with SCOTUS "how dare you question our integrity" and you wonder how deep the rot goes.
 
2022-09-30 3:41:54 PM  
I dunno if this judge is bought or if she's just a bog standard corrupt Republican... either way, the conservatives on the whole have already decided that they will destroy themselves to protect trump.
Got me why they want to destroy themselves for a guy who doesn't give a damn about anything but himself.
🤷‍♀
 
2022-09-30 3:45:24 PM  

ImpendingCynic: You combine this with SCOTUS "how dare you question our integrity" and you wonder how deep the rot goes.


SCOTUS is concerned because when you not only know they're corrupt but call them out and refuse to heed them, they lose the power the wanted to gain from weaseling onto the bench.

You should have stopped paying attention to SCOTUS with the last round of appointments under Trump.  It's not a court any longer, it's a podium from which the cult leaders can announce certain decrees.
 
2022-09-30 3:45:25 PM  
If it's so bad, why haven't impeachment hearings started?
 
2022-09-30 3:45:53 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


Finishing sentences is what Liberals do. I know, it pisses me off too. We don't need to hear complete sentences, nor do we need the Liberals to finish our sentences for
 
2022-09-30 3:46:54 PM  

Moroning: If it's so bad, why haven't impeachment hearings started?


Because Republicans refuse to hold any of conservative accountable for anything they do.
They just keep blocking everything.
 
2022-09-30 3:48:42 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.


Not hard to figure out. He's propped himself up as a weak man's version of what a strong man is, for idiots they see him telling them they're smart while experts are actually stupid, and he's what some poor assholes feel like they would be if they won enough money from pull tabs and scratch offs that they rightly deserve to have.

They see a dude walking around saying all the stuff they think to themselves but are too chickenshiat to say out loud and mistake that for bravery. It's super weird to see an elderly overweight narcissist who thinks wind mills cause brain cancer and know that for some people that's their ideal person, but some people are born marks for a conman. Even an obvious one.

He puts the Id in Idiot.
 
2022-09-30 3:50:46 PM  

Jake Havechek: Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.


This. I'm still amused people think everyone needs to be forced to do something appalling or stupid.

Most people who do appalling or stupid things seem farking delighted at the opportunity.

Like this idiot.
 
2022-09-30 3:52:15 PM  

COMALite J: Kris_Romm: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

He's Biff Tannen.  That shtick works with people obsessed with bullies exerting their power.
He's literally Biff Tannen, as in the writers of Back to the Future II based Alternate-Timeline Biff (the mob-boss one with the Pleasure Palace gambling resort gained from betting on things known from the future thanks to the almanac provided by his future self) directly on Donald Trump as he was at the time.


Yes, but he's actually like Biff too. Brutish and crude, but to his followers he's fascinating, because they have a limited understanding of what being smart and strong are. They just see being obviously on top as admirable.
 
2022-09-30 3:54:59 PM  

NateAsbestos: Finally, the swamp is drained!


I was always wondering if "Drain The Swamp" was some code word for their coordinated corruption, specifically the currency manipulation.
 
2022-09-30 4:00:38 PM  

Unsung_Hero: ImpendingCynic: You combine this with SCOTUS "how dare you question our integrity" and you wonder how deep the rot goes.

SCOTUS is concerned because when you not only know they're corrupt but call them out and refuse to heed them, they lose the power the wanted to gain from weaseling onto the bench.

You should have stopped paying attention to SCOTUS with the last round of appointments under Trump.  It's not a court any longer, it's a podium from which the cult leaders can announce certain decrees.

As I said in the Alito "questoning mah integrity" thread: Sammy himself "questioned the integrity" and/or competence of Justices Blackmun, Burger, Douglas, Brennan, Stewart, Marshall, and (surprisingly) Powell, calling their decision "egregiously wrong from the start" and "it's reasoning ... exceptionally weak" among other things. Why should we show Sammy any more respect than he showed for them, his predecessors and equals?
 
2022-09-30 4:01:30 PM  

Lambskincoat: Jake Havechek: Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.

He's the hero of the mentally deficient.


He is the hero of the absolute douchebags, the bigots and the racists, who for decades have fumed and nursed bottomless resentment at being disallowed in polite society for being douchebags, bigots and racists.

Every time he is a criminal, a dirtbag, a rapist and gets away with it, they live out their dreams vicariously.
 
2022-09-30 4:11:32 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.


He is NOT charismatic. He's a loud blustering manipulative liar born with just enough money to avoid consequences and dupe stupid and/or desperate people.

As others have said, he's the poor man's version of what a rich man is.

Charisma isn't always good and can be used for malignant ends. But it generally is inspiring, usually transcends circumstances. If Donnie hadn't been born to wealth he'd peak at being a semi successful used car salesman in podunk wherever, owe a crap ton of back taxes, on his 5th divorce and despised by all his kids.

That's not charisma.
 
2022-09-30 4:15:21 PM  

Jake Havechek: Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.


I disagree - I think she's just not good at her job. She made some stupid decisions that have the practical effect of extending the case, but I don't think she did that for TFG. It's more likely that she simply didn't think her decisions through.

As Professor Tribe said in TFA:  this is a bad decision made in a case that has very little real-world effect. The classified documents are already being used in a criminal investigation. Now that the DOJ already has the remaining materials they can make copies of anything else that's useful. The only real reason to keep them is to comply with the Presidential Records Act.

I said this in a previous thread - she made 2 surprising changes to Dearie's rules: 1) TFG doesn't have to certify what was "planted" until the doc review phase, and 2) TFG doesn't have to produce his challenges on a rolling basis but in one lump production at the deadline she stated. These will cause more problems but don't change the fact that TFG has the burden of proof.
 
2022-09-30 4:16:05 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.


The type of charisma that a seemingly rich person has over a person trained from birth to associate success with divine providence.

*cough*

You know, Calvinists
 
2022-09-30 4:16:08 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Jake Havechek: Probably nothing.  She just worships him as a god like most Trump supporters.

Exactly this.
I don't get why people think there's more to any Trumpers than that.  No leverage or angle or monetary reward necessary.


He appeals to certain people.
Liberal haters.
Bullies.
Those that want to burn the country down.
Racist.
Those who wish they could be as big of an a$$hole and/or thief get away with it.
People that want to be next to celebrities.
People who think he'll make them rich or advance their career.
People who want to be a super commando but can't hack the military.
and finally, the weak-minded who are ready to believe any conspiracy and/or hate gossip they hear (think about the people in school who told you that X celebrity had to go to the hospital to get quarts of semen pumped out of their stomach-usually Rod Stewart or Elton John...or the "Mikey blew himself up by consuming soda and pop-rocks" idiots).
These are his people. Unfortunately, they make up a third of the country.
 
2022-09-30 4:19:12 PM  

mistahtom: NateAsbestos: Finally, the swamp is drained!

I was always wondering if "Drain The Swamp" was some code word for their coordinated corruption, specifically the currency manipulation.


It was a simple phrase that he could remember. That's how the Wall became a thing. His advisers wanted him to criticize illegal immigration. The way that got him to remember to mention it in his rambling word salad speeches was to cue him to say Build the Wall. That isn't speculation. His first set of campaign advisers confirmed it. You just have to remember how farking stupid he is to see that it makes sense.
 
2022-09-30 4:19:23 PM  
Honestly, Trump has nothing on Judge Cannon. What Cannon is doing is strictly about arranging her retirement.  She has now ensured for herself a lifetime of paid speaking gigs (probably 10K a pop) at Conservative Symposiums and events.

If she's eventually investigated, she quickly retires, and gets a guaranteed 6 figure job for a Conservative think tank, or lobbyist.   Regardless of leaving, she's "Judge Cannon" for life on Reich Wing media.
 
2022-09-30 4:21:58 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Officer Barrelroll: Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.

I can't figure it out. He makes no sense when he speaks and barely finishes a sentence.

Not hard to figure out. He's propped himself up as a weak man's version of what a strong man is, for idiots they see him telling them they're smart while experts are actually stupid, and he's what some poor assholes feel like they would be if they won enough money from pull tabs and scratch offs that they rightly deserve to have.

They see a dude walking around saying all the stuff they think to themselves but are too chickenshiat to say out loud and mistake that for bravery. It's super weird to see an elderly overweight narcissist who thinks wind mills cause brain cancer and know that for some people that's their ideal person, but some people are born marks for a conman. Even an obvious one.

He puts the Id in Idiot.


a stupid man's idea of a smart man
a poor man's idea of a rich man
a weak man's idea of a strong man
etc etc etc
 
2022-09-30 4:22:41 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Vacation Bible School: Why does he have so much support? He's not charismatic. Are that many Americans clamoring to be a bully's toady?

He's EXTREMELY charismatic.  You don't get the kind of hero worship he does without being charismatic.  It's just not the type of charisma that appeals to you or me.


It's the MAGA-X files.  They want to believe.  Once they convince themselves to believe, everything starts to add to the delusion.  It starts to become part of their being and as time passes, the hopes of reverting back to objective drop to near none.  Sunk Fallacy at its greatest.
 
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