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(MSN)   As Trump travels from state to state holding rallies for his preferred candidates, the GOP is desperately trying to find a way to tell him that he is Not Helping   (msn.com) divider line
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2022-09-30 11:45:07 AM  
The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.
 
2022-09-30 11:51:51 AM  

eurotrader: The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.


I was puzzled by the relationship between this proposed rally and the tour that has cancelled most upcoming rallies. I think I figured it out. This is part of the Save America tour, and the one that isn't paying bills is The American Freedom Tour.
 
2022-09-30 11:57:33 AM  

Clarence Brown: eurotrader: The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.

I was puzzled by the relationship between this proposed rally and the tour that has cancelled most upcoming rallies. I think I figured it out. This is part of the Save America tour, and the one that isn't paying bills is The American Freedom Tour.


So a classic shell game by a conman that knows his audience are idiots. The sheer size of the suckers list is something.
 
2022-09-30 12:29:35 PM  
Are you sure? He's helping identify people I shouldn't support. That's a kind of help.
 
2022-09-30 12:30:31 PM  
Has anyone just tried telling him to fark off and die? Democrat, Republican, I don't care. Maybe it's worth a shot.
 
2022-09-30 12:30:56 PM  
TFG is like Hitler
In April 45 he wanted Germany to burn wuth him
Trump wants the GOP to burn with him

The best way to stop him would probably be to say only you can save us
 
2022-09-30 12:31:35 PM  

eurotrader: Clarence Brown: eurotrader: The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.

I was puzzled by the relationship between this proposed rally and the tour that has cancelled most upcoming rallies. I think I figured it out. This is part of the Save America tour, and the one that isn't paying bills is The American Freedom Tour.

So a classic shell game by a conman that knows his audience are idiots. The sheer size of the suckers list is something.


I think the candidates or the RNC pay for the Rallies we're seeing.  Save America Tour was founded on the premise that someone would actually PAY to see this travelling freakshow, and why buy the cow when you can see the milk constantly on TV
 
2022-09-30 12:33:32 PM  
TFG isn't trying to help.

He's just grifting the rubes and trying to rile up the deplorables for the next phase of the insurrection.
 
2022-09-30 12:33:46 PM  
Oh, but he IS helping subby, he definitely is.

He's just not helping the GOP...
 
2022-09-30 12:34:05 PM  
Subby, let me fix this for you:

As Trump travels from state to state holding rallies for his preferred candidates ego, "brand," and pocketbook, the GOP is desperately trying to find a way to tell him that he is Not Helping.


/ Yes, I know the companies are not making money
// But, there is little chance that he personally isn't getting paid
/// And of course, his secret service security team, but that comes from a different account
 
2022-09-30 12:34:27 PM  

Clarence Brown: eurotrader: The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.

I was puzzled by the relationship between this proposed rally and the tour that has cancelled most upcoming rallies. I think I figured it out. This is part of the Save America tour, and the one that isn't paying bills is The American Freedom Tour.


Two separate tours and he has to cancel the fir profit one

That has to sting him

I think Lincoln needs to run an ad saying no one is willing to pay to see Trump
 
2022-09-30 12:34:30 PM  
Of course it's helping. It's helping his ego, and narcissistic dependencies. Did they honestly think he'd help them? Have they been asleep the past 7 years?
 
2022-09-30 12:37:03 PM  
Sorry but Trump needs rhe money, so the tour will continue
 
2022-09-30 12:37:22 PM  
Never interrupt your enemies while they are making a mistake-- Abraham Lincoln
 
2022-09-30 12:40:25 PM  
Sorry conservatives. You bought Trump. He's yours. You get to deal with all of his toxic crap polluting your ideology and destroying your party.
We told you not to do it, but y'all didn't listen.
 
2022-09-30 12:41:00 PM  

brainlordmesomorph: TFG isn't trying to help.

He's just grifting the rubes and trying to rile up the deplorables for the next phase of the insurrection.


All kinds of this.
 
2022-09-30 12:43:56 PM  
Is he doing it for their promotion or for his own grift and ego?
 
2022-09-30 12:45:46 PM  
FTFA:

"Here is the problem with these events: What does Trump do? He talks about the candidate he is allegedly there to support for about 60 seconds, he may or may not insult the candidate - as he did with J.D. Vance - and then the rest of it is the Trump Grievance Tour," said Doug Heye, a former communications director for the Republican National Committee.
Heye added that Trump's grievances - generally revolving around false claims of election fraud - "are of interest only to Trump, as opposed to the issues the candidate would prefer to be talking about."

FESTIVUS!

I betcha you could show that episode to TFG** he'd totally get it and think it's a real holiday.
 
2022-09-30 12:46:45 PM  

Clarence Brown: eurotrader: The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.

I was puzzled by the relationship between this proposed rally and the tour that has cancelled most upcoming rallies. I think I figured it out. This is part of the Save America tour, and the one that isn't paying bills is The American Freedom Tour.


The one that bankrupted is the for-profit tour they tried getting off the ground. If you recall he was supposed to tour the country with Bill O'Reilly and they thought they could charge for tickets to that crap.

These are standard political rallies that don't cost money to attend and are paid for by PACs.
 
2022-09-30 12:47:26 PM  
None of what TFG is doing is about the candidates, lol.

Everything is always about him.
 
2022-09-30 12:47:47 PM  
GOP blew their last best chance to cut bait during 2nd impeachment.  I am actively rooting for his petulant selfishness to tear the GOP apart.
 
2022-09-30 12:50:20 PM  
If you tell him he's not helping, he'll start not helping on purpose. Go for it.
 
2022-09-30 12:50:37 PM  

eurotrader: Clarence Brown: eurotrader: The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.

I was puzzled by the relationship between this proposed rally and the tour that has cancelled most upcoming rallies. I think I figured it out. This is part of the Save America tour, and the one that isn't paying bills is The American Freedom Tour.

So a classic shell game by a conman that knows his audience are idiots. The sheer size of the suckers list is something.


GOP should turn off the money spigot. Bullshiat dries up faster without cash.
 
2022-09-30 12:50:47 PM  
I'll believe they want him to go away when they actually stop him from "helping". Until then I will assume that they are using him to keep the morons motivated while pretending they don't like it to try to convince centrists that they're still a viable political party.
 
2022-09-30 12:57:42 PM  
It's not about the GOP any more. It's all about Trump.

Trump just got his pet judge to interfere with the special master Trump demanded be placed in the DoJ's way, because the special master wasn't interfering enough - unless overturned, Trump just got the crucial delay he needed to continue the grift for a couple of years.

Because Cannon's delayed the inevitable until mid-December, past the mid-term elections in November, he'll be able to declare himself a presidential candidate for 2024 and he can keep lining his slush fund... er, "campaign contributions in his 'Leadership PAC'" with their foolishly-parted funds.

Trump knows that he's screwing the GOP; it's a likely partial motivation, in fact, for their "betrayal" of his deserved rule as Emperor of 'Murica.
 
2022-09-30 12:58:21 PM  
The time to stop Trump from "helping" was back in March of 2016.

Since then, it's been at best damage control, and at worst hooking your caboose to his train and hoping you can get off before it runs over the cliff.

And it appears you failed.
 
2022-09-30 1:05:09 PM  
if he wasn't helping, they would let him know.  his well honed assholery is an excellent hedge against basic decency.   as long as he keeps the outrage machine pumping, it won't matter.  the waterheads will pull that R lever.
 
2022-09-30 1:07:17 PM  

spongeboob: TFG is like Hitler
In April 45 he wanted Germany to burn wuth him
Trump wants the GOP to burn with him

The best way to stop him would probably be to say only you can save us


I'm not entirely sure that's a fair analogy.  Hitler had core beliefs that Germany had been humiliated in WW1 and the subsequent Weimar Republic.  Overall, Hitler's "goal" was to re-establish Germany as THE superpower of Europe.  While it is fair to say that his core beliefs were monstrous and resulted in the destruction of millions of lives, including that of Germans, it can at least be said that he HAD core beliefs.

Trump has no core beliefs beyond enriching himself financially, boosting his fragile ego and narcissism, and causing chaos in the world that he seems to view as entertainment.
 
2022-09-30 1:08:15 PM  
Dear Don:

fark off. Please.

Signed,
Everyone.

That's how you do it.
 
2022-09-30 1:09:25 PM  
Please, Michigan, don't blow Trump. Please.

Oh...deliver a blow TO Trump. My bad.
 
2022-09-30 1:09:48 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Has anyone just tried telling him to fark off and die? Democrat, Republican, I don't care. Maybe it's worth a shot.


I tried it.  Even prayed for it. Didn't work.
 
2022-09-30 1:09:53 PM  

Close2TheEdge: spongeboob: TFG is like Hitler
In April 45 he wanted Germany to burn wuth him
Trump wants the GOP to burn with him

The best way to stop him would probably be to say only you can save us

I'm not entirely sure that's a fair analogy.  Hitler had core beliefs that Germany had been humiliated in WW1 and the subsequent Weimar Republic.  Overall, Hitler's "goal" was to re-establish Germany as THE superpower of Europe.  While it is fair to say that his core beliefs were monstrous and resulted in the destruction of millions of lives, including that of Germans, it can at least be said that he HAD core beliefs.

Trump has no core beliefs beyond enriching himself financially, boosting his fragile ego and narcissism, and causing chaos in the world that he seems to view as entertainment.


Say what you will about the tenets of Nationalist Socialism but at least it's an ethos!
 
2022-09-30 1:15:19 PM  

CthulhuCalling: Close2TheEdge: spongeboob: TFG is like Hitler
In April 45 he wanted Germany to burn wuth him
Trump wants the GOP to burn with him

The best way to stop him would probably be to say only you can save us

I'm not entirely sure that's a fair analogy.  Hitler had core beliefs that Germany had been humiliated in WW1 and the subsequent Weimar Republic.  Overall, Hitler's "goal" was to re-establish Germany as THE superpower of Europe.  While it is fair to say that his core beliefs were monstrous and resulted in the destruction of millions of lives, including that of Germans, it can at least be said that he HAD core beliefs.

Trump has no core beliefs beyond enriching himself financially, boosting his fragile ego and narcissism, and causing chaos in the world that he seems to view as entertainment.

Say what you will about the tenets of Nationalist Socialism but at least it's an ethos!


Yeah, this is dangerous to post, because well...Hitler.  But I think it's important to point out the key differences between Hitler and Trump.  Hitler wanted to achieve something horrific and had a somewhat coherent strategy of how to get there.  I don't believe for a minute that Trump knows what he wants other than to be God Emperor, and exact revenge on his critics.  And he is clearly incapable of executing any kind of a coherent strategy.  He survives day to day, and has attracted scores of horrible people with their own agendas, who have somewhat coherent strategies.
 
2022-09-30 1:16:17 PM  
If they're that upset, that could stop paying his legal fees.

I'm not even sure why they're doing it in the first place.
 
2022-09-30 1:20:18 PM  
From further down in the article:
In Georgia, former football star Herschel Walker lagged Sen. Raphael Warnock (D) by 4 points in a Fox News poll this week.
That's a swing, isn't it?  Wasn't Herschel "Crazy Mind" Walker up by a couple just two weeks ago?
Of course he's not helping anything.  He has no concept of how to help anyone with anything.  He's never once said, even in jest, "Let me help you with that."
/DeSantis has got to be secretly happy that somebody competent is in the White House today.
 
2022-09-30 1:31:15 PM  

spongeboob: Clarence Brown: eurotrader: The TFG tour isn't paying vendors and entering bankruptcy so what companies are even allowing anything to be provided without cash upfront.

Curious if truth social will even make it to election day 2022 before folding like the cheap suit the leader wears.

I was puzzled by the relationship between this proposed rally and the tour that has cancelled most upcoming rallies. I think I figured it out. This is part of the Save America tour, and the one that isn't paying bills is The American Freedom Tour.

Two separate tours and he has to cancel the fir profit one

That has to sting him

I think Lincoln needs to run an ad saying no one is willing to pay to see Trump


Oh, they're paying to see him, and he's getting his money. So is the guy who owns the company. It's the vendors and the venues who aren't getting any money--nor are some (and perhaps all) of the speakers other than Trump. It's just a con--run up lots of debt, and then declare bankruptcy to avoid paying it. The CEO of the company has a history of doing that, apparently.
 
2022-09-30 1:36:58 PM  

Close2TheEdge: spongeboob: TFG is like Hitler
In April 45 he wanted Germany to burn wuth him
Trump wants the GOP to burn with him

The best way to stop him would probably be to say only you can save us

I'm not entirely sure that's a fair analogy.  Hitler had core beliefs that Germany had been humiliated in WW1 and the subsequent Weimar Republic.  Overall, Hitler's "goal" was to re-establish Germany as THE superpower of Europe.  While it is fair to say that his core beliefs were monstrous and resulted in the destruction of millions of lives, including that of Germans, it can at least be said that he HAD core beliefs.

Trump has no core beliefs beyond enriching himself financially, boosting his fragile ego and narcissism, and causing chaos in the world that he seems to view as entertainment.


Yes, absolutely true about Trump having no core beliefs.

But, it's also true that, when it was clear that Hitler was losing ,he did want Germany destroyed because Germans hadn't been loyal enough.

Of course, this is the guy who shouted at his generals that they had disobeyed his orders--he told them to take Moscow, and they didn't.

This is an amazing book: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/47599 It's transcripts of many of his conferences with his generals.
 
2022-09-30 1:37:03 PM  

RasIanI: None of what TFG is doing is about the candidates, lol.

Everything is always about him.


Exactly.  They may be ON BEHALF OF the candidates, but they're FOR God Emperor Donnieboy.
 
2022-09-30 1:56:49 PM  
Trump want to help the GOP, just himself.

And get his ego stroked.

And line his pockets with money from idiots.
 
2022-09-30 1:58:41 PM  
It doesn't matter what anyone else wants, Tя☭mp is going to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. They bought the tickets and they get to ride the Tя☭mp rollercoaster as it plunges off the edge.
 
2022-09-30 2:40:06 PM  
"In Georgia, former football star Herschel Walker lagged Sen. Raphael Warnock (D) by 4 points in a Fox News poll this week. "

Good.
 
2022-09-30 3:10:49 PM  

FormlessOne: It's not about the GOP any more. It's all about Trump.

Trump just got his pet judge to interfere with the special master Trump demanded be placed in the DoJ's way, because the special master wasn't interfering enough - unless overturned, Trump just got the crucial delay he needed to continue the grift for a couple of years.

Because Cannon's delayed the inevitable until mid-December, past the mid-term elections in November, he'll be able to declare himself a presidential candidate for 2024 and he can keep lining his slush fund... er, "campaign contributions in his 'Leadership PAC'" with their foolishly-parted funds.

Trump knows that he's screwing the GOP; it's a likely partial motivation, in fact, for their "betrayal" of his deserved rule as Emperor of 'Murica.


She only interfered with the documents that don't really matter. They are the documents that are probably violations of the Presidential Records Act. She tried interfering with the classified documents and got biatch slapped by the 11th Circuit 3-0, including two Trump appointees. The FBI has those records and is conducting its criminal and national security investigation.
 
2022-09-30 4:10:35 PM  
Dear GOP:
He doesn't care about you either.
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2022-09-30 4:18:37 PM  

dsmith42: FormlessOne: It's not about the GOP any more. It's all about Trump.

Trump just got his pet judge to interfere with the special master Trump demanded be placed in the DoJ's way, because the special master wasn't interfering enough - unless overturned, Trump just got the crucial delay he needed to continue the grift for a couple of years.

Because Cannon's delayed the inevitable until mid-December, past the mid-term elections in November, he'll be able to declare himself a presidential candidate for 2024 and he can keep lining his slush fund... er, "campaign contributions in his 'Leadership PAC'" with their foolishly-parted funds.

Trump knows that he's screwing the GOP; it's a likely partial motivation, in fact, for their "betrayal" of his deserved rule as Emperor of 'Murica.

She only interfered with the documents that don't really matter. They are the documents that are probably violations of the Presidential Records Act. She tried interfering with the classified documents and got biatch slapped by the 11th Circuit 3-0, including two Trump appointees. The FBI has those records and is conducting its criminal and national security investigation.


Unless the DoJ fast-tracks indictments based on those docs, the distinction is unimportant. He doesn't have to do shiat before mid-December, and if the DoJ can't indict him before November, he still gets what he wants.
 
2022-09-30 4:20:14 PM  

FormlessOne: Unless the DoJ fast-tracks indictments based on those docs, the distinction is unimportant. He doesn't have to do shiat before mid-December, and if the DoJ can't indict him before November, he still gets what he wants.


As an aside, that's likely why the NY AG just announced that they, too, are fast-tracking their civil lawsuit against Trump, so they can get his ass into court before November.
 
2022-09-30 4:54:59 PM  

extroverted_suicide: If they're that upset, that could stop paying his legal fees.

I'm not even sure why they're doing it in the first place.


Uh, you aren't? I think it's pretty clear that almost ALL of the Republican Party officials were at least complicit in trumps crimes; if he is found guilty, THEY become guilty.

When asking why a Republican is doing ANYTHING, the answer is - self interest. Always.
 
2022-09-30 4:58:48 PM  

brainlordmesomorph: TFG isn't trying to help.

He's just grifting the rubes and trying to rile up the deplorables for the next phase of the insurrection.


That and his LOVE for being behind a microphone for an adulating audience.
 
2022-09-30 8:25:28 PM  

Close2TheEdge: CthulhuCalling: Close2TheEdge: spongeboob: TFG is like Hitler
In April 45 he wanted Germany to burn wuth him
Trump wants the GOP to burn with him

The best way to stop him would probably be to say only you can save us

I'm not entirely sure that's a fair analogy.  Hitler had core beliefs that Germany had been humiliated in WW1 and the subsequent Weimar Republic.  Overall, Hitler's "goal" was to re-establish Germany as THE superpower of Europe.  While it is fair to say that his core beliefs were monstrous and resulted in the destruction of millions of lives, including that of Germans, it can at least be said that he HAD core beliefs.

Trump has no core beliefs beyond enriching himself financially, boosting his fragile ego and narcissism, and causing chaos in the world that he seems to view as entertainment.

Say what you will about the tenets of Nationalist Socialism but at least it's an ethos!

Yeah, this is dangerous to post, because well...Hitler.  But I think it's important to point out the key differences between Hitler and Trump.  Hitler wanted to achieve something horrific and had a somewhat coherent strategy of how to get there.  I don't believe for a minute that Trump knows what he wants other than to be God Emperor, and exact revenge on his critics.  And he is clearly incapable of executing any kind of a coherent strategy.  He survives day to day, and has attracted scores of horrible people with their own agendas, who have somewhat coherent strategies.


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