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(AP News)   Democrats in Congress: "Here, Kansas, have some Federal COVID relief funds." Kansas: "Thanks, we'll use it to tear down this building on the National Register of Historic Places"   (apnews.com) divider line
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1642 clicks; posted to Politics » on 30 Sep 2022 at 8:46 PM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-30 7:57:49 PM  
It's not the dumbest thing people have spent Covid relief funds on.

Wait, maybe this is the dumbest.

And historic register or not, is this a building that really needs to be saved? It looks like it's seen better days:

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2022-09-30 8:50:59 PM  
Reduce their grants by the same amount for next year.
 
2022-09-30 8:51:04 PM  
Fun Fact about the Docket Building: It was used as the place to repaint and store the Governor's lawn furniture while Brownback was still in office. Folks were still working in the building at the time and the fumes were awful.

Yeah, it needs to go, just save the cool little relief above the entrance and that's it.
 
2022-09-30 8:52:23 PM  
Aha, but: "All spending is stimulus."

It's like 2009 all over again.
 
2022-09-30 8:52:41 PM  
So here's the thing about money - it's fungible.  You know what happens when you earmark money for a specific thing that the state already had to spend money on regardless?  The money they were going to have to spend on it gets put somewhere else.

No matter how hard you try to lock it down, in the end the only time you can control how money is spent is when it is for something of which no component was already in a budget, or if you actually take over complete control of funds dispersal and release it on a case-by-case basis at the most granular level.

/Why yes, I've worked for the government, how can you tell?
 
2022-09-30 8:55:24 PM  
Plot twist:  the building is getting shipped and rebuilt on Martha's Vineyard.
 
2022-09-30 8:57:44 PM  

Lsherm: It's not the dumbest thing people have spent Covid relief funds on.

Wait, maybe this is the dumbest.

And historic register or not, is this a building that really needs to be saved? It looks like it's seen better days:

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The City of Colorado Springs is planning to spend millions of federal dollars meant for COVID-19 recovery on the city's two publicly owned golf courses, Patty Jewett Golf Course and Valley Hi Golf Course.

Some elected officials tell 13 Investigates this is a responsible financial decision for the city, but others feel that these funds ought to go to more applicable needs.


No, the responsible thing to do is not use public funds for goddamned gold courses, you idiots!
 
2022-09-30 8:57:49 PM  
>giggle< docking.

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2022-09-30 8:59:17 PM  
Historic or not that is one ugly building.
 
2022-09-30 9:02:14 PM  

Lsherm: It's not the dumbest thing people have spent Covid relief funds on.

Wait, maybe this is the dumbest.

And historic register or not, is this a building that really needs to be saved? It looks like it's seen better days:

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Any result that reduces the existence of brutalist architecture in the world is a positive one.
 
2022-09-30 9:02:15 PM  
And this helps us recover from Covid how?
 
2022-09-30 9:03:14 PM  

Unsung_Hero: So here's the thing about money - it's fungible.  You know what happens when you earmark money for a specific thing that the state already had to spend money on regardless?  The money they were going to have to spend on it gets put somewhere else.

No matter how hard you try to lock it down, in the end the only time you can control how money is spent is when it is for something of which no component was already in a budget, or if you actually take over complete control of funds dispersal and release it on a case-by-case basis at the most granular level.

/Why yes, I've worked for the government, how can you tell?


So what I'm hearing is that instead of using money to pay out grants we need to be using NFTs.
 
2022-09-30 9:08:43 PM  

Lsherm: It's not the dumbest thing people have spent Covid relief funds on.

Wait, maybe this is the dumbest.

And historic register or not, is this a building that really needs to be saved? It looks like it's seen better days:

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It's vacant and in need of repair from an age when lead paint and asbestos were a kids best friend. . It's a tear down hazardous waste clean up now.
 
2022-09-30 9:17:41 PM  

GregInIndy: Lsherm: It's not the dumbest thing people have spent Covid relief funds on.

Wait, maybe this is the dumbest.

And historic register or not, is this a building that really needs to be saved? It looks like it's seen better days:

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Any result that reduces the existence of brutalist architecture in the world is a positive one.


Can't disagree with you there.
 
2022-09-30 9:18:38 PM  

Kalyco Jack: >giggle< docking.


Also have a "Gateway" at the Univ. of Kansas, otherwise referred to as the Docking Port.

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2022-09-30 9:19:04 PM  
They can't tear that down. It's where Bob Dole kept his pens.
 
2022-09-30 9:21:14 PM  

GregInIndy: Any result that reduces the existence of brutalist architecture in the world is a positive one.


Part of me wants to keep the better stations of the Montreal Metro and tell our grandchildren that's what brutalism was like.  Except then they'd want to bring it back.
 
2022-09-30 9:24:08 PM  
I worked at Docking 15 years ago and it was a disaster then. They wanted to condemn it years ago but the capitol power plant is in the basement.
 
2022-09-30 9:26:37 PM  
Meh. At least the state will get something out of it. A bunch of states spent more money on policing.
 
2022-09-30 9:27:05 PM  

TheSubjunctive: GregInIndy: Any result that reduces the existence of brutalist architecture in the world is a positive one.

Part of me wants to keep the better stations of the Montreal Metro and tell our grandchildren that's what brutalism was like.  Except then they'd want to bring it back.


It will be a natural overreaction to the faux-classical stylings that the likes of Trump have been pushing. Same as the brutalism of the 1950s was an overreaction to the "old" looks of pre-war generations. History doesn't repeat, but it quite often rhymes.
 
2022-09-30 9:37:29 PM  
I'm not a fan of the building, but here's a link if anyone cares.  https://abandonedks.com/docking-building/
 
2022-09-30 9:37:50 PM  
Demolition is a little over the top, but I'm sure they're just making extra sure it's sterilized safe for the workers. Can't catch Covid from debris, right?
 
2022-09-30 9:41:17 PM  

TheSubjunctive: GregInIndy: Any result that reduces the existence of brutalist architecture in the world is a positive one.

Part of me wants to keep the better stations of the Montreal Metro and tell our grandchildren that's what brutalism was like.  Except then they'd want to bring it back.


Are they as bad/good as DC's?
 
2022-09-30 9:53:31 PM  

jclaggett: Are they as bad/good as DC's?


A few boring ones on the Green, but 90% are better than DC (to me, and to a lot of experts, which I am not).  Some truly gorgeous ones (Saint-Henri, De la Concorde).  There are some unique things on WMATA, and the stations are the best part of the system, but designs were eventually cookie-cutter stamped out.  Montreal... basically every station is unique.
 
2022-09-30 9:54:33 PM  

Unsung_Hero: So here's the thing about money - it's fungible.  You know what happens when you earmark money for a specific thing that the state already had to spend money on regardless?  The money they were going to have to spend on it gets put somewhere else.

No matter how hard you try to lock it down, in the end the only time you can control how money is spent is when it is for something of which no component was already in a budget, or if you actually take over complete control of funds dispersal and release it on a case-by-case basis at the most granular level.

/Why yes, I've worked for the government, how can you tell?


Money is fungible only if it's infinite. This was also earmarked for specific relief, yeah? So what are you talking about?
 
2022-09-30 10:06:19 PM  

Dear Jerk: I'm not a fan of the building, but here's a link if anyone cares.  https://abandonedks.com/docking-building/


Okay so save the bas relief and also this button. I want to press this button:


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2022-09-30 10:13:33 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: This was also earmarked for specific relief, yeah? So what are you talking about?


The information you're requesting is contained within the post to which you are replying.
 
2022-09-30 10:22:31 PM  

Senseless_drivel: They can't tear that down. It's where Bob Dole kept his pens.


I read that as "where Bob Dole kept his penis" and was wondering both how and why.
 
2022-09-30 10:41:51 PM  

BigGrnEggGriller: And this helps us recover from Covid how?


There's Covid in the building. It has to go.
 
2022-09-30 10:53:18 PM  
It's an ugly and not terribly useful building. How can a building that is less than 70 years old be an "historic" building?
 
2022-09-30 11:38:49 PM  

TheSubjunctive: Kalyco Jack: >giggle< docking.

Also have a "Gateway" at the Univ. of Kansas, otherwise referred to as the Docking Port.

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So that's how it goes in their family.
 
2022-09-30 11:53:23 PM  

Shaggy_C: Aha, but: "All spending is stimulus."

It's like 2009 all over again.


Yes, this is true. It helps if the spending is on things that will improve the economy down the road.
 
2022-09-30 11:55:09 PM  

vrax: Lsherm: It's not the dumbest thing people have spent Covid relief funds on.

Wait, maybe this is the dumbest.

And historic register or not, is this a building that really needs to be saved? It looks like it's seen better days:

[Fark user image 850x598]

The City of Colorado Springs is planning to spend millions of federal dollars meant for COVID-19 recovery on the city's two publicly owned golf courses, Patty Jewett Golf Course and Valley Hi Golf Course.

Some elected officials tell 13 Investigates this is a responsible financial decision for the city, but others feel that these funds ought to go to more applicable needs.

No, the responsible thing to do is not use public funds for goddamned gold courses, you idiots!


All golf courses should be torn up and either turned into a park or allowed to grow wild at worst.

The best would be a dense walkable mixed use neighborhood.
 
2022-10-01 12:02:29 AM  

Sabreace22: Demolition is a little over the top, but I'm sure they're just making extra sure it's sterilized safe for the workers. Can't catch Covid from debris, right?


We should house Denver homeless there.
 
2022-10-01 12:02:32 AM  

TheSubjunctive: jclaggett: Are they as bad/good as DC's?

A few boring ones on the Green, but 90% are better than DC (to me, and to a lot of experts, which I am not).  Some truly gorgeous ones (Saint-Henri, De la Concorde).  There are some unique things on WMATA, and the stations are the best part of the system, but designs were eventually cookie-cutter stamped out.  Montreal... basically every station is unique.


I guess I'm weird. I like DC's stations.
 
2022-10-01 12:16:11 AM  

jclaggett: I guess I'm weird. I like DC's stations.


Don't get me wrong, WMATA is a solid A-, at least on that particular score.  Wish the rest of the things you rate a metro on were as high.
 
2022-10-01 12:28:48 AM  

TheSubjunctive: jclaggett: I guess I'm weird. I like DC's stations.

Don't get me wrong, WMATA is a solid A-, at least on that particular score.  Wish the rest of the things you rate a metro on were as high.


I know it has a really bad reputation, but I've only ever experienced a few times as a tourist and it was fine from DCA to the Gallery Place area. And taking it to the brewery near MOMA.
 
2022-10-01 6:09:03 AM  
I'd like funding to not go to States whose elected officials voted against it.
 
2022-10-01 8:22:10 AM  
I love how (again) these same assholes constantly denounce federal spending, then intentionally misuse funds to say "told you so see" ..I'm so farking tired of these assholes and their self sabotage as a plank of their platform.

The only assholes I see consistently breaking the law and abusing the systems are these assholes...
 
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