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2022-09-30 4:42:37 PM  
Doesn't that largely depend on how the people in the region feel about it?  Ukraine can decide to annex it right back.
 
2022-09-30 7:30:30 PM  
Lemme guess this is Putin's pathetic way of declaring "victory" so he can stop slowly destroying his country through this war?
 
2022-09-30 7:32:27 PM  
"Hereby declare" conspicuously absent
 
2022-09-30 7:33:24 PM  

RandomInternetComment: Lemme guess this is Putin's pathetic way of declaring "victory" so he can stop slowly destroying his country through this war?


"Peace with honor"?
 
2022-09-30 7:33:48 PM  

RandomInternetComment: Lemme guess this is Putin's pathetic way of declaring "victory" so he can stop slowly destroying his country through this war?


No, his way of justifying more action against Ukraine by claiming they are attacking Russian territory.
 
2022-09-30 7:33:54 PM  
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2022-09-30 7:36:51 PM  

quizzical: RandomInternetComment: Lemme guess this is Putin's pathetic way of declaring "victory" so he can stop slowly destroying his country through this war?

No, his way of justifying more action against Ukraine by claiming they are attacking Russian territory.


Then Putin is either more of a madman or idiot than I gave him credit for.
 
2022-09-30 7:37:38 PM  
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2022-09-30 7:37:43 PM  

quizzical: RandomInternetComment: Lemme guess this is Putin's pathetic way of declaring "victory" so he can stop slowly destroying his country through this war?

No, his way of justifying more action against Ukraine by claiming they are attacking Russian territory.


Which btw based off previous statements attacking Russian territory would justify their use of nuclear weapons.
 
2022-09-30 7:41:15 PM  
He's really in for a strongly worded letter and televised denouncements as well as press releases from world leaders now.
 
2022-09-30 7:45:38 PM  

EvilEgg: Doesn't that largely depend on how the people in the region feel about it?  Ukraine can decide to annex it right back.


Why would they annex something that's already theirs?  That would just lend legitimacy to this whole nonsense.
 
2022-09-30 7:47:31 PM  

EvilEgg: Doesn't that largely depend on how the people in the region feel about it?  Ukraine can decide to annex it right back.


They had a "vote".
 
2022-09-30 7:47:38 PM  
We need to consult with NATO but I think we should deploy forces to Ukraine. Not active forces, right now just training the Ukrainians. How much are we going to allow Russia to break international law before a response?
 
2022-09-30 7:48:51 PM  

Weatherkiss: He's really in for a strongly worded letter and televised denouncements as well as press releases from world leaders now.


The ass kicking he's been getting the last few months isn't enough for you?
 
2022-09-30 7:50:05 PM  

LL316: Weatherkiss: He's really in for a strongly worded letter and televised denouncements as well as press releases from world leaders now.

The ass kicking he's been getting the last few months isn't enough for you?


Nope. He needs his ass kicked even more than it already is.
 
2022-09-30 7:50:39 PM  
I really, really, REALLY hate to say this, but this cannot be allowed to happen. The message it will send to Xi Jinping, and other aspiring dictators, will result in multiple similar moves, sooner rather than later.

In other words, ...

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2022-09-30 7:51:14 PM  
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2022-09-30 7:54:32 PM  

Weatherkiss: He's really in for a strongly worded letter and televised denouncements as well as press releases from world leaders now announcing billions more in new weapon and aid shipments.


FTFY
 
2022-09-30 7:54:56 PM  
He's going to claim people are attacking "Russia"

This is actually going to get uncomfortably close to nukes
 
2022-09-30 7:56:32 PM  
Japan should hold a referendum in the Kiril Islands.

Be annexed by Russia, live under crippling sanctions, and go to war in Ukraine  ▢
Be annexed by Japan                                                                                             ▢
 
2022-09-30 7:59:57 PM  

Halfabee64: Japan should hold a referendum in the Kiril Islands.

Be annexed by Russia, live under crippling sanctions, and go to war in Ukraine  ▢
Be annexed by Japan                                                                                             ▢


Like Russia would accept the results. If they don't get to put a gun to someone's head and tell them which box to check then it wouldn't be fair.
 
2022-09-30 8:00:27 PM  
He can say he's annexing anything he wants.  He can annex my lazy cat if he says so.  My question is the same it's been since he started this clusterfark -- How are you going to hold it?
 
2022-09-30 8:00:59 PM  
Did Putin use a Magic Sharpie or did he declare them Russian territory with his mind?
 
2022-09-30 8:01:18 PM  

RandomInternetComment: Lemme guess this is Putin's pathetic way of declaring "victory" so he can stop slowly destroying his country through this war?


as long as he doesn't start destroying it again when the Ukrainians take it back?

/sure
//but, i don't think he thought his cunning plan through to the end
///but i think his end is coming sooner than he had planned
 
2022-09-30 8:02:28 PM  

joepennerlives: He can say he's annexing anything he wants.  He can annex my lazy cat if he says so.  My question is the same it's been since he started this clusterfark -- How are you going to hold it?


The conscripts that are busy either fleeing or fighting each other?
 
2022-09-30 8:05:19 PM  

Stud Gerbil: RandomInternetComment: Lemme guess this is Putin's pathetic way of declaring "victory" so he can stop slowly destroying his country through this war?

"Peace with honor"?


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2022-09-30 8:05:31 PM  

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is that swimming pool in JoeHio?
 
2022-09-30 8:08:25 PM  

HerptheDerp: He's going to claim people are attacking "Russia"

This is actually going to get uncomfortably close to nukes


Well, ceding those territories to Russia is 1) absolutely not something Ukraine should or will do and 2) absolutely not something any other sovereign state has any say in, so I suppose in a sense it doesn't matter. If he wants to use them, he will. We cannot make any concessions wither way.
 
2022-09-30 8:08:58 PM  
This is cool!  So people can just start breaking international laws?  Can I annex this little spot over in Warminster, England I know about?  It's beautiful!
 
2022-09-30 8:14:18 PM  

HerptheDerp: He's going to claim people are attacking "Russia"

This is actually going to get uncomfortably close to nukes


Got any SPF 1,000,000?
 
2022-09-30 8:14:34 PM  

quizzical: No, his way of justifying more action against Ukraine by claiming they are attacking Russian territory.


That's it. It's just a hastily-assembled justification for the mobilization already in progress. It probably would've been far more effective to announce the mobilization after the vote but this is the kind of strategic thinking we've learned to expect from Putin's Russia. Putin thinks if he can just prolong this war a little longer, high energy prices in winter will force European leaders to prod Ukraine to the bargaining table on Russia's terms.  He certainly wouldn't be the first Russian ruler to rely on winter as a strategy, but I don't it will work out for Putin too well this time.
 
2022-09-30 8:17:45 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: This is cool!  So people can just start breaking international laws?  Can I annex this little spot over in Warminster, England I know about?  It's beautiful!


Sure, if the Army of LeoffDaGrate is present in force to enforce your claim
 
2022-09-30 8:18:13 PM  
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2022-09-30 8:19:21 PM  
What's Ukrainian for 'Sudetenland'?
 
2022-09-30 8:20:27 PM  

HerptheDerp: He's going to claim people are attacking "Russia"

This is actually going to get uncomfortably close to nukes


Well, and this is sad to say, but that'll just have to be his choice whether or not he wants to bring the world crashing down and himself with it. He's already alluded to using nukes, so either the rest of the world is going to give the dynamite monkey what he wants for the sake of peace, or he's going to either shiat or get off the pot with that.
 
2022-09-30 8:23:28 PM  

Science_Guy_3.14159: We need to consult with NATO but I think we should deploy forces to Ukraine. Not active forces, right now just training the Ukrainians. How much are we going to allow Russia to break international law before a response?


Um, this is what we have a CIA for, bro. Where the hail have you been the last 70 -80 years?!? Like it's not completely obvious we've already got our guys in there helping out with training & strategy.
 
2022-09-30 8:26:58 PM  

austerity101: HerptheDerp: He's going to claim people are attacking "Russia"

This is actually going to get uncomfortably close to nukes

Well, ceding those territories to Russia is 1) absolutely not something Ukraine should or will do and 2) absolutely not something any other sovereign state has any say in, so I suppose in a sense it doesn't matter. If he wants to use them, he will. We cannot make any concessions wither way.


I mean. A man with a gun breaks into your house and starts brutalizing your family. Says you can't do anything about it or hes going to burn the house down with everyone inside it.

How much bullshiat and horror are people expected to put up with and for how long? It's not hes going to stop after he rapes your wife and shiats in your kitchen.

I would rather we all burn than let madmen rule through fear.

Death before tyranny.
 
2022-09-30 8:35:47 PM  

mikefinch: austerity101: HerptheDerp: He's going to claim people are attacking "Russia"

This is actually going to get uncomfortably close to nukes

Well, ceding those territories to Russia is 1) absolutely not something Ukraine should or will do and 2) absolutely not something any other sovereign state has any say in, so I suppose in a sense it doesn't matter. If he wants to use them, he will. We cannot make any concessions wither way.

I mean. A man with a gun breaks into your house and starts brutalizing your family. Says you can't do anything about it or hes going to burn the house down with everyone inside it.

How much bullshiat and horror are people expected to put up with and for how long? It's not hes going to stop after he rapes your wife and shiats in your kitchen.

I would rather we all burn than let madmen rule through fear.

Death before tyranny.


Exactly. We cannot concede anything to fascists and terrorists.
 
2022-09-30 8:38:18 PM  

Science_Guy_3.14159: We need to consult with NATO but I think we should deploy forces to Ukraine. Not active forces, right now just training the Ukrainians. How much are we going to allow Russia to break international law before a response?


Covert forces from NATO countries are quite active inside Ukraine right now, and have been continuously since 2014. Enough of the "when are we going to respond?!?" garbage.
 
2022-09-30 8:54:50 PM  

austerity101: HerptheDerp: He's going to claim people are attacking "Russia"

This is actually going to get uncomfortably close to nukes

Well, ceding those territories to Russia is 1) absolutely not something Ukraine should or will do and 2) absolutely not something any other sovereign state has any say in, so I suppose in a sense it doesn't matter. If he wants to use them, he will. We cannot make any concessions wither way.


What we can do though is give Ukraine more defensive weapons, you still have to get the nuke to the location and it can be intercepted.

Either way there are only two options now.

1. Stand up and stop the shenanigans now and if there's nukes there's nukes but this will resolve thag globally once and for all OR they will lose and go back and it will be a cold couple decades but it will send a resounding message to others including China that this is a zero sun game.

2. Let Russia and every other country like China etc take whatever they want, they will be back to take more and more and let's just "negotiate".  What is there to negotiate?  How much land and how many people we let them kill "this time" because that's positive reinforcement which will encourage them to do it again and again and again with impunity.
 
2022-09-30 8:57:25 PM  

madpeanut: 2. Let Russia and every other country like China etc take whatever they want, they will be back to take more and more and let's just "negotiate".  What is there to negotiate?  How much land and how many people we let them kill "this time" because that's positive reinforcement which will encourage them to do it again and again and again with impunity.


omg PURITY TESTS

/obviously kidding, I agree with you
//so tired of "the best way is compromise" assholes who don't seem to understand that there are a lot of things on which compromise is completely unacceptable
 
2022-09-30 9:06:47 PM  

EvilEgg: Doesn't that largely depend on how the people in the region feel about it?  Ukraine can decide to annex it right back.


Oh, but those people already "voted" and totes want to be Russians, didn't you know?
 
2022-09-30 9:07:27 PM  

Breaker Breaker: [I called an press conference to announce... that I have annexed my neighbor's swimming pool. She is not amused.]


Did you not allow her to leave the pool first?
 
2022-09-30 9:08:06 PM  

Science_Guy_3.14159: We need to consult with NATO but I think we should deploy forces to Ukraine. Not active forces, right now just training the Ukrainians. How much are we going to allow Russia to break international law before a response?


I think at this point, NATO almost needs to take a backseat to a worldwide effort. He's just pushing and pushing. He needs to be smacked.
 
2022-09-30 9:08:27 PM  
I am reasonably confident I will live to see Russia fall apart as the Soviet Union did before it.  Only this time it's going to be WORSE.  And might just happen before my next birthday, never mind before my last one.

It will be interesting to see what comes of that.  Hopefully the mess stays within the borders the current state, and whatever states pop up to replace it hopefully will get the message that farking around with the free world and invading neighbors is not going to turn out well for them.
 
2022-09-30 9:13:18 PM  

Mikey1969: Science_Guy_3.14159: We need to consult with NATO but I think we should deploy forces to Ukraine. Not active forces, right now just training the Ukrainians. How much are we going to allow Russia to break international law before a response?

I think at this point, NATO almost needs to take a backseat to a worldwide effort. He's just pushing and pushing. He needs to be smacked.


The world beyond NATO is overwhelmingly disinterested in doing anything whatsoever about Russian imperialism.
 
2022-09-30 9:34:28 PM  
He's done it, now what're you going to do about it. Russia is still a UN member with veto power. Every time the UN brings a resolution against Russia they veto it. It's to the point of ridiculous.
 
2022-09-30 9:41:02 PM  

farkitallletitend: He's done it, now what're you going to do about it. Russia is still a UN member with veto power. Every time the UN brings a resolution against Russia they veto it. It's to the point of ridiculous.


Time to recognize that Russia is no longer a superpower.  It's not even a regional power unless it lets inspectors in to confirm it has a functional nuclear weapon or three remaining in its possession.

So unseat Russia from the Soviet Union's position, remove its veto.  It doesn't have enough vassals to prevent it.
 
2022-09-30 10:00:07 PM  

qorkfiend: joepennerlives: He can say he's annexing anything he wants.  He can annex my lazy cat if he says so.  My question is the same it's been since he started this clusterfark -- How are you going to hold it?

The conscripts that are busy either fleeing or fighting each other?


With the help of the friends he met along the way?
 
2022-09-30 10:27:17 PM  

Unsung_Hero: farkitallletitend: He's done it, now what're you going to do about it. Russia is still a UN member with veto power. Every time the UN brings a resolution against Russia they veto it. It's to the point of ridiculous.

Time to recognize that Russia is no longer a superpower.  It's not even a regional power unless it lets inspectors in to confirm it has a functional nuclear weapon or three remaining in its possession.

So unseat Russia from the Soviet Union's position, remove its veto.  It doesn't have enough vassals to prevent it.


Russia still has some powerful friends.


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