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(ESPN)   Former Cowboys TE Gavin Escobar succumbs to gravity   (espn.com) divider line
    More: Sad, National Football League, Miami Dolphins, tight end Gavin Escobar, Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins, Former Dallas Cowboys, Riverside County sheriff's coroner, small amount of rain  
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2022-09-29 11:33:20 PM  
Climbing.com says: According to a longtime Idyllwild local who spoke with two persons involved in the recovery, one climber was attached to a rope with an ATC. The second climber had a rappel device clipped to their harness, but was not clipped to the rope. Both ends of the rope were knotted. A refrigerator-sized block may have fallen with the climbers-Tahquitz is known to have an abundance of loose rock. A brief but heavy rain with hail was reported in the area around the time of the accident.
 
2022-09-30 1:27:31 AM  
I would've sworn that guy caught more than 30 passes in his career, I remembered him being a pretty decent #2 to Witten for several years.  Regardless, very sad, no matter what his career was.  Way too young.
 
2022-09-30 2:12:23 AM  
I tried climbing in my youth. Sucked at that, too

/Well, maybe not quite as bad as that
//RIP
 
2022-09-30 3:23:33 AM  
I also look forward to reading about this one in the AAC accidents book for 2022.
 
2022-09-30 5:00:52 AM  
That gravity, man, always keeping us down.
 
2022-09-30 8:13:27 AM  
dude was a firefighter... leaves behind wife and kids... and sucks at rock climbing
 
2022-09-30 8:24:28 AM  

little big man: Climbing.com says: According to a longtime Idyllwild local who spoke with two persons involved in the recovery, one climber was attached to a rope with an ATC. The second climber had a rappel device clipped to their harness, but was not clipped to the rope. Both ends of the rope were knotted. A refrigerator-sized block may have fallen with the climbers-Tahquitz is known to have an abundance of loose rock. A brief but heavy rain with hail was reported in the area around the time of the accident.


One person has a belay device and the rope is through it. The other one has a belay device, clipped to their harness. Where? The gear loop? Belay loop? If it is attached to the belay loop, they may have been doing a simul-rap.

Were there any bits of gear at the site that would indicate rappelling?

Knotting both ends of the rope could indicate a simul-rap.

Buth, the climber with the rope, was there any additional gear attached that would indicate they were repelling? Such as an auto block, or an extension? If not, they were belaying.

So far, this sounds like a simul-rap gone wrong by a block being trundled and cutting the rope.
 
2022-09-30 8:43:17 AM  
Never was great at telling where his feet where.
 
2022-09-30 9:30:18 AM  

question_dj: little big man: Climbing.com says: According to a longtime Idyllwild local who spoke with two persons involved in the recovery, one climber was attached to a rope with an ATC. The second climber had a rappel device clipped to their harness, but was not clipped to the rope. Both ends of the rope were knotted. A refrigerator-sized block may have fallen with the climbers-Tahquitz is known to have an abundance of loose rock. A brief but heavy rain with hail was reported in the area around the time of the accident.

One person has a belay device and the rope is through it. The other one has a belay device, clipped to their harness. Where? The gear loop? Belay loop? If it is attached to the belay loop, they may have been doing a simul-rap.

Were there any bits of gear at the site that would indicate rappelling?

Knotting both ends of the rope could indicate a simul-rap.

Buth, the climber with the rope, was there any additional gear attached that would indicate they were repelling? Such as an auto block, or an extension? If not, they were belaying.

So far, this sounds like a simul-rap gone wrong by a block being trundled and cutting the rope.


I don't know climbing, what's the layperson translation of this?  Were they doing a risky thing, or was this a risky place to climb?
 
2022-09-30 9:32:33 AM  

RubiconBeer: question_dj: little big man: Climbing.com says: According to a longtime Idyllwild local who spoke with two persons involved in the recovery, one climber was attached to a rope with an ATC. The second climber had a rappel device clipped to their harness, but was not clipped to the rope. Both ends of the rope were knotted. A refrigerator-sized block may have fallen with the climbers-Tahquitz is known to have an abundance of loose rock. A brief but heavy rain with hail was reported in the area around the time of the accident.

One person has a belay device and the rope is through it. The other one has a belay device, clipped to their harness. Where? The gear loop? Belay loop? If it is attached to the belay loop, they may have been doing a simul-rap.

Were there any bits of gear at the site that would indicate rappelling?

Knotting both ends of the rope could indicate a simul-rap.

Buth, the climber with the rope, was there any additional gear attached that would indicate they were repelling? Such as an auto block, or an extension? If not, they were belaying.

So far, this sounds like a simul-rap gone wrong by a block being trundled and cutting the rope.

I don't know climbing, what's the layperson translation of this?  Were they doing a risky thing, or was this a risky place to climb?


And thank you for sharing your expertise.
 
2022-09-30 10:56:04 AM  

question_dj: little big man: Climbing.com says: According to a longtime Idyllwild local who spoke with two persons involved in the recovery, one climber was attached to a rope with an ATC. The second climber had a rappel device clipped to their harness, but was not clipped to the rope. Both ends of the rope were knotted. A refrigerator-sized block may have fallen with the climbers-Tahquitz is known to have an abundance of loose rock. A brief but heavy rain with hail was reported in the area around the time of the accident.

One person has a belay device and the rope is through it. The other one has a belay device, clipped to their harness. Where? The gear loop? Belay loop? If it is attached to the belay loop, they may have been doing a simul-rap.

Were there any bits of gear at the site that would indicate rappelling?

Knotting both ends of the rope could indicate a simul-rap.

Buth, the climber with the rope, was there any additional gear attached that would indicate they were repelling? Such as an auto block, or an extension? If not, they were belaying.

So far, this sounds like a simul-rap gone wrong by a block being trundled and cutting the rope.


Those are definitely words

/except maybe belay, not sure about that one, though spellcheck tells me it's legit
 
2022-09-30 11:00:06 AM  
Not a week goes by that I can't find a use for this great song

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2022-09-30 11:08:46 AM  

stoli n coke: Never was great at telling where his feet where.


Were wear where we're
 
2022-09-30 2:50:48 PM  
It's actually the electro-magnetism that kills you.
 
2022-09-30 5:51:20 PM  

RubiconBeer: question_dj: little big man: Climbing.com says: According to a longtime Idyllwild local who spoke with two persons involved in the recovery, one climber was attached to a rope with an ATC. The second climber had a rappel device clipped to their harness, but was not clipped to the rope. Both ends of the rope were knotted. A refrigerator-sized block may have fallen with the climbers-Tahquitz is known to have an abundance of loose rock. A brief but heavy rain with hail was reported in the area around the time of the accident.

One person has a belay device and the rope is through it. The other one has a belay device, clipped to their harness. Where? The gear loop? Belay loop? If it is attached to the belay loop, they may have been doing a simul-rap.

Were there any bits of gear at the site that would indicate rappelling?

Knotting both ends of the rope could indicate a simul-rap.

Buth, the climber with the rope, was there any additional gear attached that would indicate they were repelling? Such as an auto block, or an extension? If not, they were belaying.

So far, this sounds like a simul-rap gone wrong by a block being trundled and cutting the rope.

I don't know climbing, what's the layperson translation of this?  Were they doing a risky thing, or was this a risky place to climb?


Simultaneously rappelling is mor dangerous than rappelling one at a time. A normal rappel on an atc (belay device) is done using both strands of the rope. Simul-rap, each person is on one strand, and the rope is anchored to the anchor.

It's more dangerous because if the rope isn't knotted at both ends, if someone raps off the end of the rope, they both fall.

The fact that there was a large block on the ground by them, makes me think they were doing a simul-rap and the rope was cut by a block that was accidentally kicked loose.

I personally don't like rappelling because it's one of the more dangerous things that is done during climbing.
 
2022-09-30 7:54:40 PM  

Super Chronic: question_dj: little big man: Climbing.com says: According to a longtime Idyllwild local who spoke with two persons involved in the recovery, one climber was attached to a rope with an ATC. The second climber had a rappel device clipped to their harness, but was not clipped to the rope. Both ends of the rope were knotted. A refrigerator-sized block may have fallen with the climbers-Tahquitz is known to have an abundance of loose rock. A brief but heavy rain with hail was reported in the area around the time of the accident.

One person has a belay device and the rope is through it. The other one has a belay device, clipped to their harness. Where? The gear loop? Belay loop? If it is attached to the belay loop, they may have been doing a simul-rap.

Were there any bits of gear at the site that would indicate rappelling?

Knotting both ends of the rope could indicate a simul-rap.

Buth, the climber with the rope, was there any additional gear attached that would indicate they were repelling? Such as an auto block, or an extension? If not, they were belaying.

So far, this sounds like a simul-rap gone wrong by a block being trundled and cutting the rope.

Those are definitely words

/except maybe belay, not sure about that one, though spellcheck tells me it's legit


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