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(The Daily Beast)   Jurassic World director claims the series is "inherently unfranchisable." But Hollywood...ah...finds a way   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2022-09-30 4:37:41 AM  
It cost reportedly $185 million to make Jurassic World : Dominion, but brought in over a billion dollars. I would say that's a successful franchise, considering this is the 6th movie in the series.
 
2022-09-30 5:02:07 AM  

Pextor: It cost reportedly $185 million to make Jurassic World : Dominion, but brought in over a billion dollars. I would say that's a successful franchise, considering this is the 6th movie in the series.


He's framing this as the problem his genius stewardship has overcome. Unless he's actively trying to tank himself with another studio? It could go either way from the mind of the master who brough us "Book of Henry".
 
2022-09-30 5:05:09 AM  
The guy sure loves to run his big ol' piehole.
 
2022-09-30 5:05:34 AM  
Sure it's franchisable, probably everything is if you throw enough marketing money at it.

Now, can you make a series of films that are well made, well scripted, and all enjoyable experiences?
So far, not with this one-hit wonder, but I think it's because of scripting moreso than anything.

/Still get chills when T-Rex appears in the first film.
 
2022-09-30 5:15:59 AM  
I think there's only one place left for them to go. That's right.

Dinosaurs. . . . . In Spaaaaaaace!
 
2022-09-30 5:28:24 AM  

Wobambo: I think there's only one place left for them to go. That's right.

Dinosaurs. . . . . In Spaaaaaaace!


Also

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2022-09-30 5:37:21 AM  
It is a franchise. Unfortunately, the last few entries (especially Fallen Kingdom) had to rely on every character making the dumbest possible decision at all times.
 
2022-09-30 6:17:38 AM  
The Lost World was doable because there was a legit Crichton sequel novel. JP3-6? Unnecessary. They're fine for spectacle, i guess, but story-wise, especially the last couple entries, they kind of suck.
 
2022-09-30 6:21:22 AM  

Wobambo: I think there's only one place left for them to go. That's right.

Dinosaurs. . . . . In Spaaaaaaace!


Or, the dinosaurs win and them BAM! Terminator xenomorphs try to take over the earth!
Then Dr. Crusher and Spock show up and rides a Triceratops into battle.

/brb, making detour to fanfic.net
 
2022-09-30 7:07:09 AM  

Summoner101: Wobambo: I think there's only one place left for them to go. That's right.

Dinosaurs. . . . . In Spaaaaaaace!

Also

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One of the best series finales ever.

The first Jurassic Park was released when I was 14 and I loved it. Then Jurassic Park 2 came out and gave us uneven gymnastics bars in the jungle. It was downhill from there.
 
2022-09-30 8:04:48 AM  
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'I have to say that g'damn "could-should" quote during every episode?
Seems kinda repetit- OOO, How much money are they going to pay me?'
 
2022-09-30 8:19:24 AM  

oldfarthenry: [Fark user image image 300x207]
'I have to say that g'damn "could-should" quote during every episode?
Seems kinda repetit- OOO, How much money are they going to pay me?'


His character should have died in the first one.
 
2022-09-30 8:37:24 AM  

Pextor: It cost reportedly $185 million to make Jurassic World : Dominion, but brought in over a billion dollars. I would say that's a successful franchise, considering this is the 6th movie in the series.


The last film was absolutely batshiat crazy pants on head stupid in terms of story, but it was a fun dumb popcorn movie about dinosaurs.
 
2022-09-30 8:39:13 AM  

houstondragon: Pextor: It cost reportedly $185 million to make Jurassic World : Dominion, but brought in over a billion dollars. I would say that's a successful franchise, considering this is the 6th movie in the series.

The last film was absolutely batshiat crazy pants on head stupid in terms of story, but it was a fun dumb popcorn movie about dinosaurs.


Except it was about farking locusts. Along with giving any non-villain character with a speaking part plot armor, the filmmakers decided to go full Exorcist 2.
 
2022-09-30 9:02:58 AM  
Boring, repetitive franchise is boring.
 
2022-09-30 9:19:48 AM  
My 7 year old loves him some dinosaur Lego sets. He's never seen any of the movies, but he's played the Lego video game that includes the first  four.
 
2022-09-30 9:25:19 AM  

Ostman: Sure it's franchisable, probably everything is if you throw enough marketing money at it.

Now, can you make a series of films that are well made, well scripted, and all enjoyable experiences?
So far, not with this one-hit wonder, but I think it's because of scripting moreso than anything.

/Still get chills when T-Rex appears in the first film.


I've enjoyed all six movies but the T-Rex breakout is the high water mark of the entire series.
 
2022-09-30 9:42:36 AM  
He certainly tried his best to make Dominion unwatchable but people did anyway
 
2022-09-30 9:44:16 AM  
They should do a WestWorld/Surrogates take on it where guests can BE the dinosaurs.
 
2022-09-30 9:47:14 AM  
I know there is lots of nostalgic love for the first "Jurassic Park" movie.

But it is pretty terrible. It's so cheesy, and bland.

I was 20 years old when it came out, and I had already read the book, and enjoyed it. But it's essentially a *horror* book. I guess I was hoping for the "old" Spielberg, the one that made "Jaws" and "Close Encounters" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Poltergeist". The one that could somehow mix wholesome with horrifying and make it work. But instead we got "Hook" Spielberg. That's not a compliment.

The rest of the franchise? Who gives a crap. They're all kids movies, at best. Not even good for kids movies. Just mindless dinosaur crap.
 
2022-09-30 10:15:01 AM  

realmolo: I know there is lots of nostalgic love for the first "Jurassic Park" movie.

But it is pretty terrible. It's so cheesy, and bland.

I was 20 years old when it came out, and I had already read the book, and enjoyed it. But it's essentially a *horror* book. I guess I was hoping for the "old" Spielberg, the one that made "Jaws" and "Close Encounters" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Poltergeist". The one that could somehow mix wholesome with horrifying and make it work. But instead we got "Hook" Spielberg. That's not a compliment.

The rest of the franchise? Who gives a crap. They're all kids movies, at best. Not even good for kids movies. Just mindless dinosaur crap.


Spielberg was kidnapped & replaced with a kid/franchise friendly doppelgänger right before ET started production.
 
2022-09-30 11:10:57 AM  
If they didn't need to franchise it, but they still wanted to use their sweet CGI assets, then they could have made a DinoRiders movie.  That would have made all the money.
 
2022-09-30 11:19:54 AM  
His initial idea for JW2 was to further the idea of dinos for weapons, creating crazy dino/human hybrids like an Island of Dr. Moreau meets Swamp Thing 2.    They'd be strapped with guns too like sharks with freakin lazers.

Fans were in an uproar, and it certainly would've sh*t on the integrity of the franchise... .however i would've been down for it.   It would've gutsy and ridiculous and entertaining.
 
2022-09-30 11:39:34 AM  

T.rex: His initial idea for JW2 was to further the idea of dinos for weapons, creating crazy dino/human hybrids like an Island of Dr. Moreau meets Swamp Thing 2.    They'd be strapped with guns walkie-talkies too like sharks with freakin lazers.

Fans were in an uproar, and it certainly would've sh*t on the integrity of the franchise... .however i would've been down for it.   It would've gutsy and ridiculous and entertaining.


FTFY
 
2022-09-30 11:46:21 AM  

Metaluna Mutant: Spielberg was kidnapped & replaced with a kid/franchise friendly doppelgänger right before ET started production.


ET was fine, if not as great as Raiders or Jaws. I knew a lot of kids like Elliot, child of divorce and scared of losing the rest of their friends/family. Drew Barrymore had more acting chops than anyone else in the movie.
 
2022-09-30 1:49:56 PM  
The Hangover managed to become a trilogy because of a single throwaway line. Impossible is nothing.
 
2022-09-30 6:14:23 PM  

sensitive yet dangerous: The Lost World was doable because there was a legit Crichton sequel novel. JP3-6? Unnecessary. They're fine for spectacle, i guess, but story-wise, especially the last couple entries, they kind of suck.


The Lost World was crap that Crichton wrote because they demanded a sequel film. It was a bad book and an awful movie.

They made a solid movie in Jurassic World. The rest was just bad movies not because something about the property.
 
2022-09-30 6:24:03 PM  
It should be simple to make great follow up to Jurassic Park.

You know what the number one thing you need to do? Not sideline the freaking dinosaurs for an increasingly large and pointless group of humans and farking locusts. In both cases the sequels increasingly.focussed ok the humans rather than the dinosaurs and that is dumb.

You want to make a good Jurassic Park Trilogy? First you have the movie about the park and security failing resulting in dinosaurs escaping, you nailed that once and then did alright a second time.

Then you have a movie about some secret that enables dinosaurs escaping into the world. You don't focus on clones or whatever, you focus on the dinosaurs. People go somewhere and have to survive the dinosaurs, a small group manage to get away but these events free dinosaurs. Let's be honest, it is kind of a filler movie setting up the thirst.

Third, DIONOSAURS IN THE WORLD. A T-Rex attacking a city, a pack of raptors assaulting a small town, etc etc
 
2022-09-30 6:39:37 PM  

dywed88: It should be simple to make great follow up to Jurassic Park.

You know what the number one thing you need to do? Not sideline the freaking dinosaurs for an increasingly large and pointless group of humans and farking locusts. In both cases the sequels increasingly.focussed ok the humans rather than the dinosaurs and that is dumb.

You want to make a good Jurassic Park Trilogy? First you have the movie about the park and security failing resulting in dinosaurs escaping, you nailed that once and then did alright a second time.

Then you have a movie about some secret that enables dinosaurs escaping into the world. You don't focus on clones or whatever, you focus on the dinosaurs. People go somewhere and have to survive the dinosaurs, a small group manage to get away but these events free dinosaurs. Let's be honest, it is kind of a filler movie setting up the thirst.

Third, DIONOSAURS IN THE WORLD. A T-Rex attacking a city, a pack of raptors assaulting a small town, etc etc


Make sure Andy Serkis is playing the leader of the dinosaurs, and get Matt Reeves to direct it.

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2022-09-30 7:06:27 PM  

realmolo: I know there is lots of nostalgic love for the first "Jurassic Park" movie.

But it is pretty terrible. It's so cheesy, and bland.

I was 20 years old when it came out, and I had already read the book, and enjoyed it. But it's essentially a *horror* book. I guess I was hoping for the "old" Spielberg, the one that made "Jaws" and "Close Encounters" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Poltergeist". The one that could somehow mix wholesome with horrifying and make it work. But instead we got "Hook" Spielberg. That's not a compliment.

The rest of the franchise? Who gives a crap. They're all kids movies, at best. Not even good for kids movies. Just mindless dinosaur crap.


Universal wanted another Jaws. Only reason Spielberg even took the job was Universal promised to finance Schindler's List if he made Jurassic Park first (which explains why a 3 and a half hour black and white movie about the Holocaust got a $30 million budget and a wide theatrical release).
 
2022-09-30 7:12:32 PM  

dywed88: It should be simple to make great follow up to Jurassic Park.

You know what the number one thing you need to do? Not sideline the freaking dinosaurs for an increasingly large and pointless group of humans and farking locusts. In both cases the sequels increasingly.focussed ok the humans rather than the dinosaurs and that is dumb.

You want to make a good Jurassic Park Trilogy? First you have the movie about the park and security failing resulting in dinosaurs escaping, you nailed that once and then did alright a second time.

Then you have a movie about some secret that enables dinosaurs escaping into the world. You don't focus on clones or whatever, you focus on the dinosaurs. People go somewhere and have to survive the dinosaurs, a small group manage to get away but these events free dinosaurs. Let's be honest, it is kind of a filler movie setting up the thirst.

Third, DIONOSAURS IN THE WORLD. A T-Rex attacking a city, a pack of raptors assaulting a small town, etc etc


You get it...   This was teased and never came to fruition.  Such a wasted opportunity.      Even JW1... they didn't come close to the potential of dinos threatening the park-goers.  It should have been bedlam.
 
2022-09-30 7:19:32 PM  

dywed88: Third, DIONOSAURS IN THE WORLD. A T-Rex attacking a city, a pack of raptors assaulting a small town, etc etc


A Tremors like situation would be great. Alan Grant is on another dig, maybe hoping for herbivores, but uncovers a skeleton of another velociraptor, only for raptors to have somehow gotten to the isolated dig site/small town he's located in (Maybe make it a mining operation that stumbled upon the fossils so there are more people to be there to be eaten).

Also, go campy Bond and have a supervillain capture dinosaurs to release in cities until his demands are met? Or maybe Die Hard with dinosaurs?
 
2022-09-30 8:46:38 PM  

Ed Willy: dywed88: Third, DIONOSAURS IN THE WORLD. A T-Rex attacking a city, a pack of raptors assaulting a small town, etc etc

A Tremors like situation would be great. Alan Grant is on another dig, maybe hoping for herbivores, but uncovers a skeleton of another velociraptor, only for raptors to have somehow gotten to the isolated dig site/small town he's located in (Maybe make it a mining operation that stumbled upon the fossils so there are more people to be there to be eaten).

Also, go campy Bond and have a supervillain capture dinosaurs to release in cities until his demands are met? Or maybe Die Hard with dinosaurs?


I had actually typed up a reference to Tremors. But then deleted it to be a bit more serious.
 
2022-09-30 9:41:57 PM  
If they want to do something fun, start over. Start with the initial idea and the original lab on Isla Sorna that was abandoned after things went south.
 
2022-10-01 1:38:10 AM  

T.rex: dywed88: It should be simple to make great follow up to Jurassic Park.

You know what the number one thing you need to do? Not sideline the freaking dinosaurs for an increasingly large and pointless group of humans and farking locusts. In both cases the sequels increasingly.focussed ok the humans rather than the dinosaurs and that is dumb.

You want to make a good Jurassic Park Trilogy? First you have the movie about the park and security failing resulting in dinosaurs escaping, you nailed that once and then did alright a second time.

Then you have a movie about some secret that enables dinosaurs escaping into the world. You don't focus on clones or whatever, you focus on the dinosaurs. People go somewhere and have to survive the dinosaurs, a small group manage to get away but these events free dinosaurs. Let's be honest, it is kind of a filler movie setting up the thirst.

Third, DIONOSAURS IN THE WORLD. A T-Rex attacking a city, a pack of raptors assaulting a small town, etc etc

You get it...   This was teased and never came to fruition.  Such a wasted opportunity.      Even JW1... they didn't come close to the potential of dinos threatening the park-goers.  It should have been bedlam.



1. Username checks out.  2. Agreed.  1 is the park before it opens, 2 is the park after it opens, 3 is dinosaurs in our world.

A similar problem exists in the Terminatormovies.  The third movie should have been the one set in the future, and it should have been done by Cameron (yes, even though Titanicand Avatar are crap).
 
2022-10-01 1:52:11 AM  

Snatch Bandergrip: A similar problem exists in the Terminatormovies. The third movie should have been the one set in the future, and it should have been done by Cameron (yes, even though Titanicand Avatar are crap).


When Ridley Scott came back for Alien, it was a farking disaster. Only George Lucas screwed up his legacy more.
 
2022-10-01 9:58:37 AM  

Trocadero: Snatch Bandergrip: A similar problem exists in the Terminatormovies. The third movie should have been the one set in the future, and it should have been done by Cameron (yes, even though Titanicand Avatar are crap).

When Ridley Scott came back for Alien, it was a farking disaster. Only George Lucas screwed up his legacy more.


Yeah, but by the time Ridley Scott came back, the series was already in the toilet.  I think you could have done 3 solid movies and left it at that, but then you need the same director on all three, or at least some unified vision.
 
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