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(Dallas News)   Texas to require most power plants to prepare for weather from 0 to 96 degrees F. So much for those 107 degree summer days   (dallasnews.com) divider line
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453 clicks; posted to Business » on 30 Sep 2022 at 2:50 AM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-29 9:19:44 PM  
Violently proud of their ill preparedness
 
2022-09-29 9:38:29 PM  
Texas logic: Those windmills ya'll put in the desert'll blow that pesky heat away!

*throwing down a straw hat and stomping on it optional
 
2022-09-30 12:25:51 AM  
"Dallas had 47 100-degree days this year "
 
2022-09-30 2:22:45 AM  
And every single power plant in the state will shut down at exactly 97
 
2022-09-30 4:22:25 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: And every single power plant in the state will shut down at exactly 97


Of course -- we don't want to "waste money" by overprovisioning the system.
 
2022-09-30 4:30:30 AM  
"average temperatures over 72 hours"

Presumably that allows equipment to cool down a bit. But let's ignore that and discuss.
 
2022-09-30 6:34:50 AM  

Somaticasual: Texas logic: Those windmills ya'll put in the desert'll blow that pesky heat away!

*throwing down a straw hat and stomping on it optional


No, no... when the windmills go in the desert, they absorb all the wind which means less wind for everywhere else, which means cities are hotter.
 
2022-09-30 6:38:25 AM  
The word that sticks out to me is "most"
 
2022-09-30 6:58:47 AM  

recondite cetacean: "average temperatures over 72 hours"

Presumably that allows equipment to cool down a bit. But let's ignore that and discuss.


There's equipment cooling off at night, then there's equipment still running above it's rated operating temperature for hours on end during the day.

Potentially under higher loads as well as everyone's blasting their AC.
 
2022-09-30 7:23:32 AM  

freakdiablo: recondite cetacean: "average temperatures over 72 hours"

Presumably that allows equipment to cool down a bit. But let's ignore that and discuss.

There's equipment cooling off at night, then there's equipment still running above it's rated operating temperature for hours on end during the day.

Potentially under higher loads as well as everyone's blasting their AC.


Everyone charging their cars at night
 
2022-09-30 7:37:44 AM  
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2022-09-30 8:12:03 AM  

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Well that's one of the dumbest things I'll see today and I'm still in bed.
 
2022-09-30 8:47:33 AM  
Presumably the power companies that fail to meet this standard will be punished with government bailouts and apologies for questioning their patriotism.
 
2022-09-30 8:54:57 AM  

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Well that's one of the dumbest things I'll see today and I'm still in bed.


Don't look down
 
2022-09-30 8:58:19 AM  

ImpendingCynic: Presumably the power companies that fail to meet this standard will be punished with government bailouts and apologies for questioning their patriotism.


Don't forget the hookers. Never forget the hooked.
 
2022-09-30 9:16:33 AM  

freakdiablo: recondite cetacean: "average temperatures over 72 hours"

Presumably that allows equipment to cool down a bit. But let's ignore that and discuss.

There's equipment cooling off at night, then there's equipment still running above it's rated operating temperature for hours on end during the day.

Potentially under higher loads as well as everyone's blasting their AC.


Power generating equipment is water cooled, not air cooled. The massive cooling ponds will dissipate any excessive heat at night. The equipment will never, well should never, operate outside of its rated temperatures.

When air temperatures are at their hottest, solar and wind are usually at their highest output. Texas avoided rolling browns this summer because solar output was higher than anticipated. Of course that goes against the agenda of the dipshiats that run the state so you didn't hear much about it from Abbot and the rest of mouth breathing brethren.
 
2022-09-30 9:16:42 AM  

keldaria: The word that sticks out to me is "most"


As in most plants that are responsible for power near a congress critter's home will be fine. You poor folk are farked
 
2022-09-30 9:23:08 AM  

eagles95: keldaria: The word that sticks out to me is "most"

As in most plants that are responsible for power near a congress critter's home will be fine. You poor folk are farked


I mean, it's a grid... I know they can shut down areas if needed in a forced blackout to balance supply/demand but generally speaking, either the grid has the capacity/capabilities to function or it doesn't. If the grid can't keep up, generally it starts a cascading failure as generators can't balance the supply/demand and begin disconnecting from the grid to protect their equipment from damage.
 
2022-09-30 10:51:40 AM  
So many Dallas Morning News links, so many paywall views.  When will I learn (or subscribe)?
 
2022-09-30 11:09:38 AM  
Used to live in San Antonio, and the level of derp in some native Texans is pretty astounding when it comes to climate change.  They had just gone through a record-setting summer when it comes to heat, something like 40+ consecutive 100 degree days in 2011 or 2012, and after they received their first dusting of snow in about 30 years, I heard more than one of them say, "You know, until this happened, I was almost convinced about that climate change stuff."

I'd wonder how they feel about the record in July 2022, which had 28 or 31 days of 100+, but I don't need to hear more derp.
 
2022-09-30 11:17:39 AM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: Used to live in San Antonio, and the level of derp in some native Texans is pretty astounding when it comes to climate change.  They had just gone through a record-setting summer when it comes to heat, something like 40+ consecutive 100 degree days in 2011 or 2012, and after they received their first dusting of snow in about 30 years, I heard more than one of them say, "You know, until this happened, I was almost convinced about that climate change stuff."

I'd wonder how they feel about the record in July 2022, which had 28 or 31 days of 100+, but I don't need to hear more derp.


I remember the brutal heatwave that hit Texas around 1981/82.  I was around 13 at the time, and the images of dead cattle in the newspaper along with the headline detailing triple digit heat was frightening.  Oldest brother was a truck driver and had the misfortune of having to go there to pick up some loads.  He was thankful he'd been given a truck with A/C, which was rare in those days.
 
2022-09-30 11:18:49 AM  

ImpendingCynic: Presumably the power companies that fail to meet this standard will be punished with government bailouts and apologies for questioning their patriotism.


Yup.  Unless there is a meaningful penalty that is actually enforced for failure to do this, it isn't actually a requirement.
 
2022-09-30 11:25:26 AM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Wave Of Anal Fury: Used to live in San Antonio, and the level of derp in some native Texans is pretty astounding when it comes to climate change.  They had just gone through a record-setting summer when it comes to heat, something like 40+ consecutive 100 degree days in 2011 or 2012, and after they received their first dusting of snow in about 30 years, I heard more than one of them say, "You know, until this happened, I was almost convinced about that climate change stuff."

I'd wonder how they feel about the record in July 2022, which had 28 or 31 days of 100+, but I don't need to hear more derp.

I remember the brutal heatwave that hit Texas around 1981/82.  I was around 13 at the time, and the images of dead cattle in the newspaper along with the headline detailing triple digit heat was frightening.  Oldest brother was a truck driver and had the misfortune of having to go there to pick up some loads.  He was thankful he'd been given a truck with A/C, which was rare in those days.


I think 81/82 was the last time they'd had snow, until a decade ago.

Shortly after my (now) ex-wife and I moved to San Antonio in 1998, the AC in our car died and was far too expensive to fix.  Summers were beyond unpleasant.
 
2022-09-30 11:58:58 AM  
Coldest temperature ever recorded in Amarillo is -16F/-27C.  So enjoy your frozen wells and the surge in prices that result.

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