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(Vanity Fair)   In a move that would have been appropriate at any time in the past 200 years, Biden officially declares Florida a disaster. Stay safe, Florida Farkers   (vanityfair.com) divider line
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2022-09-29 1:44:40 PM  

OdradekRex: Unsung_Hero: IRestoreFurniture: Well, I'm glad they're going to learn their lesson about what living in a society is a d what is and isn't socialism....wait wait I can't even finish that with a straight face.


The state that did everything in their power to purposely increase the pandemic for America is now asking for help from the people they farked over.

Sometimes it's hard to be moral.

Game theory and plenty of observation show 'tit for tat' is a good strategy.

Continually helping people who have proven they will gladly watch you suffer and die is not a good social behaviour.  You're just enabling them, giving them a better chance to fark you over in the future.

Maybe some sort of middle ground is possible - tying aid to a contract return the favor or never receive aid again - and if so would be a good idea.

Rewarding bad behavior reinforces it.

They just might want to think about prohibiting new construction in areas that flooded out.  This is going to happen again. Money to move, not to rebuild.


Like new Orleans does everything they flood?  No you build walls, high walls, these people love walls.  And when that wall fails it will be complete and almost instant destruction.
 
2022-09-29 1:49:35 PM  

Ishkur: chasd00: "every elected official" would include every sherif among many many other people.

Federal, silly.

Although he's probably calling town mayors and business leaders directly affected as well.


The reference to only Democrat in office lends me to believe it was the state level elected officials. Nikki Fried is the only statewide D in office.
 
2022-09-29 1:53:10 PM  

GardenWeasel: [Fark user image 597x356]


DeathSantis can't wait for more of that Government money to send Texas emigrants to other states.
 
2022-09-29 1:54:36 PM  

Unsung_Hero: IRestoreFurniture: Well, I'm glad they're going to learn their lesson about what living in a society is a d what is and isn't socialism....wait wait I can't even finish that with a straight face.


The state that did everything in their power to purposely increase the pandemic for America is now asking for help from the people they farked over.

Sometimes it's hard to be moral.

Game theory and plenty of observation show 'tit for tat' is a good strategy.

Continually helping people who have proven they will gladly watch you suffer and die is not a good social behaviour.  You're just enabling them, giving them a better chance to fark you over in the future.

Maybe some sort of middle ground is possible - tying aid to a contract return the favor or never receive aid again - and if so would be a good idea.

Rewarding bad behavior reinforces it.


Some people will never learn...
 
2022-09-29 1:57:37 PM  

asciibaron: yes the entirety of a state can be covered with your brush strokes.  it's time for you to grow up.


Google "site:www.fark.com texas power". I'd sure hate for some Floridian who was calling for everyone in San Antonio, Austin, and El Paso to freeze to death to suddenly need a little assistance. Or any thread about hurricane relief in New Orleans, for that matter.

They live in Florida. The state is barely above sea level. Can't even dig out a basement without a lot of engineering. If people suffer and die? GOOD. Serves 'em right.
 
2022-09-29 1:58:45 PM  
I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.
 
2022-09-29 2:00:18 PM  

Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.


It's a troll.

Block it.
 
2022-09-29 2:07:08 PM  
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2022-09-29 2:12:15 PM  

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Do Texas.
 
2022-09-29 2:15:45 PM  

whidbey: Pork1: [Fark user image 320x240] [View Full Size image _x_]

Do Texas.


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2022-09-29 2:17:17 PM  

asciibaron: Unsung_Hero: Continually helping people who have proven they will gladly watch you suffer and die is not a good social behaviour.

yes the entirety of a state can be covered with your brush strokes.  it's time for you to grow up.


Elections have consequences.
 
2022-09-29 2:21:37 PM  

Pork1: whidbey: Pork1: [Fark user image 320x240] [View Full Size image _x_]

Do Texas.

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I love it when Fark delivers. :)
 
2022-09-29 3:00:16 PM  
Seven confirmed dead.
 
2022-09-29 3:02:18 PM  
If as a result of global warming it becomes the norm that a hurricane like Ian hits Florida every year, does it make sense to allow people (meaning we collectively pay for them) to rebuild there? To me it doesn't.
 
2022-09-29 3:04:22 PM  
Can we pass a bill excluding Florida from receiving federal money? Also they shouldn't be allowed to discharge any debt just because a massive hurricane destroyed everything. And where is ~my~ money!?

/this post is about student loans
 
2022-09-29 3:06:49 PM  
Hey Subby the first 300 years of our history wasn't so hot either....
 
2022-09-29 3:13:51 PM  
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2022-09-29 3:15:27 PM  

whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.


No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

GENE'S BOOGIE WOOGIE (LIVE) - GENE TAYLOR
Youtube 7qiw8cBscCg
 
2022-09-29 3:15:46 PM  
This may sound harsh, but they should investigate the governor for pre-evacuating them foreigners to Martha's Vinyard while leaving the Villages open to God's wrath.

And. What did Florida do to anger the gods to this extreme?
 
2022-09-29 3:17:19 PM  

Gonz: asciibaron: yes the entirety of a state can be covered with your brush strokes.  it's time for you to grow up.

Google "site:www.fark.com texas power". I'd sure hate for some Floridian who was calling for everyone in San Antonio, Austin, and El Paso to freeze to death to suddenly need a little assistance. Or any thread about hurricane relief in New Orleans, for that matter.

They live in Florida. The state is barely above sea level. Can't even dig out a basement without a lot of engineering. If people suffer and die? GOOD. Serves 'em right.


Don't taunt the Karma Bunny dude.
 
2022-09-29 3:19:44 PM  

Gonz: whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.

No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7qiw8cBscCg]


I'm a Texan.

I've been here since the 70's.

It can get cool here.  That's true.


I can asure you of one thing, though.

NOBODY freezes to death in Texas.
 
2022-09-29 3:29:00 PM  

Hinged: I can asure you of one thing, though.

NOBODY freezes to death in Texas.


https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2022/01/04/246-texans-died-february-freeze-and-power-loss-officials-say/9080688002/
State officials have determined that 246 people died for reasons related to the freeze and power grid failure last February that left many Texans without heat and electricity for days, though outside experts have said the victim count is probably much higher.
...
Hypothermia and frostbite accounted for 65% of the deaths state officials counted.
 
2022-09-29 3:29:23 PM  

Hinged: Gonz: whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.

No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7qiw8cBscCg]

I'm a Texan.

I've been here since the 70's.

It can get cool here.  That's true.


I can asure you of one thing, though.

NOBODY freezes to death in Texas.


Are you stupid, or a liar?  From those pinkos at Fox "News": https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/great-texas-freeze-killed-nearly-3-times-more-people-than-hurricane-harvey
 
2022-09-29 3:31:52 PM  

Hinged: Gonz: whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.

No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7qiw8cBscCg]

I'm a Texan.

I've been here since the 70's.

It can get cool here.  That's true.


I can asure you of one thing, though.

NOBODY freezes to death in Texas.


I see you've been properly corrected, so let me just add...

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2022-09-29 3:33:57 PM  

Hinged: NOBODY freezes to death in Texas.


Did you miss February of last year? 

How Did Gene Taylor, Boogie Woogie Piano Player Die ?
Youtube REQoUTNqpY0
 
2022-09-29 3:37:47 PM  

Unsung_Hero: asciibaron: Unsung_Hero: Continually helping people who have proven they will gladly watch you suffer and die is not a good social behaviour.

yes the entirety of a state can be covered with your brush strokes.  it's time for you to grow up.

Elections have consequences.


the consequences of elections in Philadelphia is more taxation with less security from gun violence, so there is that.
 
2022-09-29 3:56:34 PM  

Gonz: Hinged: NOBODY freezes to death in Texas.

Did you miss February of last year? 

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/REQoUTNqpY0]


I think they're being way too literal. Acksully it was hypothermia! Yes he didn't quickly freeze into a block of ice like Jack in the Shining.
 
2022-09-29 3:59:24 PM  

Hinged: Gonz: whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.

No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7qiw8cBscCg]

I'm a Texan.

I've been here since the 70's.

It can get cool here.  That's true.


I can asure you of one thing, though.

NOBODY freezes to death in Texas.


Don't you get tired of playing this deplorable character?
 
2022-09-29 4:01:16 PM  

Gonz: whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.

No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7qiw8cBscCg]


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2022-09-29 4:16:37 PM  

Gonz: And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it


Well that should be easy to prove.

I mean I believe that people said that Texas got the politicians people wanted, who made those choices that lead to people freezing to death, and as far as anyone can tell will still continue to re-elect those same folks and don't appear to hold those responsible accountable for the deaths that not just happened, but were avoidable. I don't think anyone said 'well I hope Gene dies, he has it coming' but I didn't read all the comments at the time.

It would be kinda ghoulish to take your ire of a friend dying and to use their death to waggle your finger at some internet randos instead of, I don't know, the people who made the decisions that lead to your friends death and did fark all afterwards about preventing it from happening again.

But hey everyone grieves different.
 
2022-09-29 4:23:40 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Well that should be easy to prove.


I was posting in some of those threads.  I don't discount the possibility of 1 or 2 trolls saying horrible shiat.  I imagine some people posting that Texans reap what you sow when you elect someone like Abbott but I certainly don't recall Farkers celebrating the death of anyone.
 
2022-09-29 4:27:50 PM  
Has anyone here seen a map of Texas Gerrymandering?  The premise that elected leaders in the US reflect the will of the people is laughable.
 
2022-09-29 4:39:21 PM  

whidbey: Look dude, I have you favorited as "cool," but you're trolling with this.

Let it go.


Hey, Maud Dib did Farkers celebrate the deaths of Texans?
 
2022-09-29 4:40:32 PM  
I have that user blocked Gonz

Take a walk.
 
2022-09-29 4:53:51 PM  

mrshowrules: Like I said, possibly 1 or 2 trolls, nobody celebrating specific deaths of anyone including your friend.  Why didn't you direct your ire to that the asshole in that thread instead of painting Farkers with a broad brush?


"Oh, no, we didn't mean an actual person who died. We just meant the concept of people in a geographic region dying. See, that's funny."

Why do I paint with a broad brush? Because no one else in the community thought they needed to bother to speak up. And when people tell you who they really are, don't argue with them.
 
2022-09-29 5:02:29 PM  

Gonz: whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.

No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

[YouTube video: GENE'S BOOGIE WOOGIE (LIVE) - GENE TAYLOR]


That farking sucks, man. Sorry.
 
2022-09-29 5:04:43 PM  

Gonz: mrshowrules: Like I said, possibly 1 or 2 trolls, nobody celebrating specific deaths of anyone including your friend.  Why didn't you direct your ire to that the asshole in that thread instead of painting Farkers with a broad brush?

"Oh, no, we didn't mean an actual person who died. We just meant the concept of people in a geographic region dying. See, that's funny."

Why do I paint with a broad brush? Because no one else in the community thought they needed to bother to speak up. And when people tell you who they really are, don't argue with them.


Well I've seen Farkers called out for precisely that type of heartlessness.  However, they are frequently they are automatically or manually ignored as trolls.  Why not direct your anger to the people that actually caused your friend's death?
 
2022-09-29 5:18:36 PM  

mrshowrules: Gonz: mrshowrules: Like I said, possibly 1 or 2 trolls, nobody celebrating specific deaths of anyone including your friend.  Why didn't you direct your ire to that the asshole in that thread instead of painting Farkers with a broad brush?

"Oh, no, we didn't mean an actual person who died. We just meant the concept of people in a geographic region dying. See, that's funny."

Why do I paint with a broad brush? Because no one else in the community thought they needed to bother to speak up. And when people tell you who they really are, don't argue with them.

Well I've seen Farkers called out for precisely that type of heartlessness.  However, they are frequently they are automatically or manually ignored as trolls.  Why not direct your anger to the people that actually caused your friend's death?


It's possible to both be angry at the people that wrote the policies and those that celebrated the deaths, it's not an either/or thing.
 
2022-09-29 5:18:39 PM  

mrshowrules: Gonz: mrshowrules: Like I said, possibly 1 or 2 trolls, nobody celebrating specific deaths of anyone including your friend.  Why didn't you direct your ire to that the asshole in that thread instead of painting Farkers with a broad brush?

"Oh, no, we didn't mean an actual person who died. We just meant the concept of people in a geographic region dying. See, that's funny."

Why do I paint with a broad brush? Because no one else in the community thought they needed to bother to speak up. And when people tell you who they really are, don't argue with them.

Well I've seen Farkers called out for precisely that type of heartlessness.  However, they are frequently they are automatically or manually ignored as trolls.  Why not direct your anger to the people that actually caused your friend's death?

 
2022-09-29 5:20:59 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: mrshowrules: Gonz: mrshowrules: Like I said, possibly 1 or 2 trolls, nobody celebrating specific deaths of anyone including your friend.  Why didn't you direct your ire to that the asshole in that thread instead of painting Farkers with a broad brush?

"Oh, no, we didn't mean an actual person who died. We just meant the concept of people in a geographic region dying. See, that's funny."

Why do I paint with a broad brush? Because no one else in the community thought they needed to bother to speak up. And when people tell you who they really are, don't argue with them.

Well I've seen Farkers called out for precisely that type of heartlessness.  However, they are frequently they are automatically or manually ignored as trolls.  Why not direct your anger to the people that actually caused your friend's death?

It's possible to both be angry at the people that wrote the policies and those that celebrated the deaths, it's not an either/or thing.


Maybe that thread would have been the more appropriate thread to call that shiat out in.  He might have had some allies.  Certainly, if anyone is celebrating the now 17 deaths in Florida, I will join him/her in calling them out as assholes.
 
2022-09-29 5:24:01 PM  

Gonz: whidbey: Gonz: I don't believe what I just wrote, by the way. It was just cathartic to lash out. Because a lot of people on this site were definitely calling for death in February 2021.

It's a troll.

Block it.

No, I think it's important to remind people that ghouls on this site celebrated the death of my friend Gene. See, Gene was a musician- he played boogie-woogie piano, and he was good at it. For some reason that could only be traced to personal politics, he lived in the live music capital of North America. And at some point during those 4 days when we were living like it was 1870, Gene froze to death in a cheap Austin apartment that didn't have a fireplace, insulation appropriate for harsh winter weather, or electricity.

And a large number of posters here were completely OK with that, because of Texas' state-level politics. Said he deserved it. So, yeah, I'm still bitter. Anyway, here's Gene.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7qiw8cBscCg]


My very progressive, and very gay daughter lives in Austin with her wife. I very much understand you.
 
2022-09-29 5:27:17 PM  

Gonz: Because no one else in the community thought they needed to bother to speak up.


Doesn't that technically include you also?
 
2022-09-29 5:27:37 PM  

dylanthomas: So as it turns out Ron sent those migrants to Mass for their own safety, what a nice guy.


On Monday I literally told my aunt that she and her husband should go to the nearest state government office and present themselves as Venezuelan refugees as the fastest way out of Florida.

// She said she'd have to drive to Texas for that to work.
 
2022-09-29 5:36:04 PM  

mrshowrules: Why not direct your anger to the people that actually caused your friend's death?


Oh I did. I do. I fought then as hard as I could, and then I rage-quit Texas and moved my family to Virginia for the safety of our LGBTQ daughter.

But that doesn't mean I can't also call out people who go from "that didn't happen, but in yellow" to "non-story, overzealous staffer" in the course of a single thread. And it's not personal, I've enjoyed and agreed with your commentary over the years. This is just one area where the regulars tend to get a little tunnel vision if it doesn't personally affect them.

I'mma shut up now.
 
2022-09-29 5:47:41 PM  

mrshowrules: Lumbar Puncture: Well that should be easy to prove.

I was posting in some of those threads.  I don't discount the possibility of 1 or 2 trolls saying horrible shiat.  I imagine some people posting that Texans reap what you sow when you elect someone like Abbott but I certainly don't recall Farkers celebrating the death of anyone.


Should be easy for them to show then and call out specific users, otherwise they're doing great at making a current ongoing tragedy into complaining that someone was mean to them in a Fark thread in the past.
 
2022-09-29 5:50:15 PM  

Gonz: mrshowrules: Why not direct your anger to the people that actually caused your friend's death?

Oh I did. I do. I fought then as hard as I could, and then I rage-quit Texas and moved my family to Virginia for the safety of our LGBTQ daughter.

But that doesn't mean I can't also call out people who go from "that didn't happen, but in yellow" to "non-story, overzealous staffer" in the course of a single thread. And it's not personal, I've enjoyed and agreed with your commentary over the years. This is just one area where the regulars tend to get a little tunnel vision if it doesn't personally affect them.

I'mma shut up now.


Well I still don't think it technically happened as you described but I agree that posting that "didn't happen" meme was a douche move and I apologize for that.  Also, sorry for your friend.  He had a pretty amazing life though.  Seems like he touched lots of people.
 
2022-09-29 6:10:10 PM  

mrshowrules: Harry Wagstaff: mrshowrules: Gonz: mrshowrules: Like I said, possibly 1 or 2 trolls, nobody celebrating specific deaths of anyone including your friend.  Why didn't you direct your ire to that the asshole in that thread instead of painting Farkers with a broad brush?

"Oh, no, we didn't mean an actual person who died. We just meant the concept of people in a geographic region dying. See, that's funny."

Why do I paint with a broad brush? Because no one else in the community thought they needed to bother to speak up. And when people tell you who they really are, don't argue with them.

Well I've seen Farkers called out for precisely that type of heartlessness.  However, they are frequently they are automatically or manually ignored as trolls.  Why not direct your anger to the people that actually caused your friend's death?

It's possible to both be angry at the people that wrote the policies and those that celebrated the deaths, it's not an either/or thing.

Maybe that thread would have been the more appropriate thread to call that shiat out in.  He might have had some allies.  Certainly, if anyone is celebrating the now 17 deaths in Florida, I will join him/her in calling them out as assholes.


I was there calling out those assholes and favoriting them in derp orange since they are basically left-wing Trumpy Bears.
 
2022-09-29 6:28:03 PM  
"I've just heard Governor DeSantis speak and I'm declaring the State of Florida a disaster.  Also, I heard they're having a hurricane.  Hahaha, just kidding folks, I didn't listen to DeSantis.  Hahaha!"  -- Joe, wearing shades
 
2022-09-29 6:36:51 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Ship them a box of bootstraps and prayers


Biden is raising their taxes so there's that.
 
2022-09-29 9:40:10 PM  
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