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(Wikipedia)   Hey Vlad, remember that time the Russian military and the people said "fark this" and nearly toppled the government? Yeah, that was awesome   (en.wikipedia.org) divider line
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2022-09-29 2:35:09 PM  
What a stinking pile of Bolsheviks
 
2022-09-29 6:09:38 PM  
Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??
 
2022-09-29 7:17:47 PM  
But, that revolution failed

I bet they lost the man.  History can repeat,
 
2022-09-29 7:18:02 PM  
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/MENDOZAAAAAAA!!!!!
 
2022-09-29 7:22:04 PM  

goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??


Initially the US largely considered it to be a European problem. Then, it quickly became hideously obvious that no one in their right mind* should go anywhere near those battlefields without a very good reason, and it took a couple years for the Germans to provide the British with the necessary components to finally manufacture one.

/Luigi Cadorna was not in his right mind
//this joke repeats ten more times
 
2022-09-29 7:22:24 PM  

goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??


Heck pretty much everything from the Franco-Prussian War on set the table for WWI so, I guess?

/The 7 Weeks War could also qualify I guess
//Heck then you could use 1848 too
///Otto von Slashies
 
2022-09-29 7:23:57 PM  
"Which revolution should I link to to make my point?  The one that succeeded or the one that didn't.  I know, I'll link to the one that didn't!"
 
2022-09-29 7:24:00 PM  
There must be some way outta here, said the joker to the thief....
 
2022-09-29 7:24:17 PM  
I do remember something that happened more recently...
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2022-09-29 7:27:01 PM  
Of course Vlad remembers *all* the Russian revolutions.

Why do you think he's so scared?
 
2022-09-29 7:27:37 PM  
I'm not gonna lie. From the moment I learned that there is a place called Turkey Leg Hut that serves motherf*ckin turkey legs I am called like a sailor to the rocks by their siren song.
 
2022-09-29 7:34:08 PM  

Por que tan serioso: I'm not gonna lie. From the moment I learned that there is a place called Turkey Leg Hut that serves motherf*ckin turkey legs I am called like a sailor to the rocks by their siren song.


I'm coming with
 
2022-09-29 7:34:26 PM  
Putin's greatest fear is supposedly to meet the same fate the Ghadaffy did. Strange how he seems to be doing everything in his power to bring about a similar ending.
 
2022-09-29 7:34:44 PM  
THey do it to the russian government, it's awesome. They try to do it to the US government, it's treason. You can't explain that. :P
 
2022-09-29 7:40:30 PM  
Its a shame that the CIA didn't exist then as the usual suspects who biatch about how everything is America's fault have nothing to go on here.
 
2022-09-29 7:40:34 PM  

Kit Fister: THey do it to the russian government, it's awesome. They try to do it to the US government, it's treason. You can't explain that. :P


I guess we see where your loyalty lies.
 
2022-09-29 7:41:54 PM  
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2022-09-29 7:43:30 PM  

Kit Fister: THey do it to the russian government, it's awesome. They try to do it to the US government, it's treason. You can't explain that. :P


Pro-fascist, anti-democracy is an interesting way to go through life, but at least it's an ethos.
 
2022-09-29 7:46:03 PM  

qorkfiend: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

Initially the US largely considered it to be a European problem. Then, it quickly became hideously obvious that no one in their right mind* should go anywhere near those battlefields without a very good reason, and it took a couple years for the Germans to provide the British with the necessary components to finally manufacture one.

/Luigi Cadorna was not in his right mind
//this joke repeats ten more times


Only 10 more?  Sure you don't wanna go for a 12th?
 
2022-09-29 7:53:05 PM  
Wikipedia? What, was Twitter busy or something?
 
2022-09-29 7:53:37 PM  
So... why link the 1905 revolution instead of 1917?
 
2022-09-29 7:57:18 PM  

Stargazer86: So... why link the 1905 revolution instead of 1917?


Because the 1905 revolution stemmed from Russia's recent humiliating defeat at the hands of what was at the time seen as a second-rate power.
 
2022-09-29 7:58:06 PM  
my favorite part about WW1 is nothing.
The Spanish Flu is called that only because the spanish press were reporting honestly about a serious health problem.   Spain was not an actor in the war so had no reason to suppress the truth.
never thought I would defend Spain's historical decisions, yet here we are.
 
2022-09-29 8:00:21 PM  

Stargazer86: So... why link the 1905 revolution instead of 1917?


It has a better move:
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Time for a remake?
 
2022-09-29 8:00:47 PM  

goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??


The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement
 
2022-09-29 8:01:05 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Putin's greatest fear is supposedly to meet the same fate the Ghadaffy did. Strange how he seems to be doing everything in his power to bring about a similar ending.


Needs more sexy special forces bodyguards to abandon him to be sodomized to death by an angry mob.
 
2022-09-29 8:01:37 PM  

qorkfiend: Stargazer86: So... why link the 1905 revolution instead of 1917?

Because the 1905 revolution stemmed from Russia's recent humiliating defeat at the hands of what was at the time seen as a second-rate power.


The Russo-Japanese war./

I heard that the polish czar got the Fark out of dodge right before then.
 
2022-09-29 8:02:31 PM  

Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement


At the time it took a while to manufacture enough explosives to kill 4 million people
 
2022-09-29 8:06:39 PM  

EnderWiggnz: polish czar


OK I'm clearly missing a joke or reference here. Someone clue me in?
 
2022-09-29 8:08:05 PM  

BenderZone: Kit Fister: THey do it to the russian government, it's awesome. They try to do it to the US government, it's treason. You can't explain that. :P

Pro-fascist, anti-democracy is an interesting way to go through life, but at least it's an ethos.


See that thing on the end? That smiley? It's meant to signify that it's a joke. As in, not serious.

I'm all about jan 6 if it had been democrats bum-rushing a stolen/rigged election giving the Fascists power, however.
 
2022-09-29 8:13:58 PM  

Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement


They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.
 
2022-09-29 8:14:42 PM  

andrewagill: EnderWiggnz: polish czar

OK I'm clearly missing a joke or reference here. Someone clue me in?


It's family history.  Long story.  Casmir got out in 1904 right before the polish revolution.
 
2022-09-29 8:18:26 PM  
You're talking about Jan. 6th?
 
2022-09-29 8:20:46 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.


The Allies didn't really "preside over" that as much as "couldn't do much to stop it from happening".
 
2022-09-29 8:28:31 PM  
I remember nine months ago when I was called insane by certain pro Russia fark accounts when I suggested that this could lead to an overthrow of the Russian government.

Now I just believe Putin will Tarkin doctrine his own people to keep in power.
 
2022-09-29 8:37:32 PM  

qorkfiend: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.

The Allies didn't really "preside over" that as much as "couldn't do much to stop it from happening".


and this is why I love  Fark.
we argue and scream but still survive,
keep Farking you lovely farkers
 
2022-09-29 8:38:12 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.


Yeah but that occurred after the peace was signed and definitely wasn't the intent behind the armistice in 1918. It also wasn't why the Entente went to war in the first place.

There was a peace effort in 1916 that could have ended the war with concessions from either side, which in the long run would have been preferable to all parties involved, but nonetheless each side wanted to keep fighting
 
2022-09-29 8:57:39 PM  

Kit Fister: BenderZone: Kit Fister: THey do it to the russian government, it's awesome. They try to do it to the US government, it's treason. You can't explain that. :P

Pro-fascist, anti-democracy is an interesting way to go through life, but at least it's an ethos.

See that thing on the end? That smiley? It's meant to signify that it's a joke. As in, not serious.


My apologies, I'm conditioned to think Q lurks in every thread
 
2022-09-29 9:02:11 PM  

qorkfiend: Stargazer86: So... why link the 1905 revolution instead of 1917?

Because the 1905 revolution stemmed from Russia's recent humiliating defeat at the hands of what was at the time seen as a second-rate power.


Japan wasn't  even a 2nd rate power.
 
2022-09-29 9:03:34 PM  

Meatsim1: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.

Yeah but that occurred after the peace was signed and definitely wasn't the intent behind the armistice in 1918. It also wasn't why the Entente went to war in the first place.

There was a peace effort in 1916 that could have ended the war with concessions from either side, which in the long run would have been preferable to all parties involved, but nonetheless each side wanted to keep fighting


If the US had not entered WWI, the war would have ground to a halt and ended with neither side losing.
 
2022-09-29 9:10:04 PM  

Meatsim1: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.

Yeah but that occurred after the peace was signed and definitely wasn't the intent behind the armistice in 1918. It also wasn't why the Entente went to war in the first place.

There was a peace effort in 1916 that could have ended the war with concessions from either side, which in the long run would have been preferable to all parties involved, but nonetheless each side wanted to keep fighting


If politicians had to spend 50% of their time on a battlefield during war, their attitudes would change.
 
2022-09-29 9:23:08 PM  

Meatsim1: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.

Yeah but that occurred after the peace was signed and definitely wasn't the intent behind the armistice in 1918. It also wasn't why the Entente went to war in the first place.

There was a peace effort in 1916 that could have ended the war with concessions from either side, which in the long run would have been preferable to all parties involved, but nonetheless each side wanted to keep fighting


That effort was the Austro-Hungarians realizing they were screwed and trying to save their asses. The German High Command found out and said "the fark you are!".
 
2022-09-29 9:29:22 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.

Yeah but that occurred after the peace was signed and definitely wasn't the intent behind the armistice in 1918. It also wasn't why the Entente went to war in the first place.

There was a peace effort in 1916 that could have ended the war with concessions from either side, which in the long run would have been preferable to all parties involved, but nonetheless each side wanted to keep fighting

That effort was the Austro-Hungarians realizing they were screwed and trying to save their asses. The German High Command found out and said "the fark you are!".


I read a book recently about how wars end, as in the deliberative processes that take place in governments when they want to end a war (whether they are winning or losing).  It had a nice quote in there from the a senior Austro Hungarian official who recognized the risks of his country's continued existence but nevertheless wanted to stand by Germany for the sake of honor.  Apparently he did not appreciate fact that his country could have no honor except in memory if it collapsed.
 
2022-09-29 9:32:54 PM  
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If you have a few spare days, Mike has 100+ episodes on the Russian Revolutions, starting with an in-depth explanation of Russian history and the history of all the various factions of socialism active in Russia.
 
2022-09-29 10:12:26 PM  

Airius: Meatsim1: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.

Yeah but that occurred after the peace was signed and definitely wasn't the intent behind the armistice in 1918. It also wasn't why the Entente went to war in the first place.

There was a peace effort in 1916 that could have ended the war with concessions from either side, which in the long run would have been preferable to all parties involved, but nonetheless each side wanted to keep fighting

If politicians had to spend 50% of their time on a battlefield during war, their attitudes would change.


well bless your hearts,you sound like a true southrner
 
2022-09-29 10:19:59 PM  

Meatsim1: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: Ken VeryBigLiar: Meatsim1: goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??

The real question isn't why it took so long for the US to enter, it's why it took so long for the European powers to reach a peace agreement

They had to preside over the dissolution of four empires and try to draw borders for scores of cultures and nationalities that were recently given "self-determination". And the victors each wanted a pound of flesh from the only real belligerent standing, Germany.

Yeah but that occurred after the peace was signed and definitely wasn't the intent behind the armistice in 1918. It also wasn't why the Entente went to war in the first place.

There was a peace effort in 1916 that could have ended the war with concessions from either side, which in the long run would have been preferable to all parties involved, but nonetheless each side wanted to keep fighting

That effort was the Austro-Hungarians realizing they were screwed and trying to save their asses. The German High Command found out and said "the fark you are!".

I read a book recently about how wars end, as in the deliberative processes that take place in governments when they want to end a war (whether they are winning or losing).  It had a nice quote in there from the a senior Austro Hungarian official who recognized the risks of his country's continued existence but nevertheless wanted to stand by Germany for the sake of honor.  Apparently he did not appreciate fact that his country could have no honor except in memory if it collapsed.


From the Peace of Augsburg until 1945, damn near every European polity could only view power and territory as zero-sum and negotiable (for some sort of price). The need to squeeze out every last drop of blood for a settlement perpetuated WWI in like manner to the 30 Years' War. When you can't take any settlement that doesn't compensate for the 1.5million casualties, you fight on to another million or two. When there's no way out for a leader other than death or exile, they're gonna fight on until someone imposes that on them. When you can implicate your people in the successes, failures, crimes, and follies of that conflict, it'll carry on.
 
2022-09-29 10:29:02 PM  

UNC_Samurai: [i.ytimg.com image 640x480]

If you have a few spare days, Mike has 100+ episodes on the Russian Revolutions, starting with an in-depth explanation of Russian history and the history of all the various factions of socialism active in Russia.


Do you have a link?
 
2022-09-29 10:31:04 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Putin's greatest fear is supposedly to meet the same fate the Ghadaffy did. Strange how he seems to be doing everything in his power to bring about a similar ending.


Good.  I'd pay money to watch somebody haul his fucking carcass out of a sewer pipe, beat the shit out of him, shove a bayonet up his ass, then shoot him in the face.
 
2022-09-29 11:10:18 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: What a stinking pile of Bolsheviks


This isn't 1905. This is 1916.

This ends with Putin in a cage or eating a bullet.
 
2022-09-29 11:10:53 PM  

goodluckwiththat: Is this a WW1 thread??
/if so where is turkey??
//also why did it take USA so long??


Have you seen the USA lately?

/ we are 50% moral degenerates
 
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