Skip to content
Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The Hill)   Why not both?   (thehill.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Democratic Party, Barack Obama, Republican Party, President of the United States, United States Senate, Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden, United States presidential election, 2008  
•       •       •

3364 clicks; posted to Politics » on 29 Sep 2022 at 12:45 PM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



54 Comments     (+0 »)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2022-09-29 8:59:56 AM  
Talk about what you've done, and what you're going to do.

Trump is his own negative commercial and you're not going to convince a single one of his cult to switch a vote by reminding them they've devoted their lives to the personification of a wad of grease, hair and shiat caught in the drainage pipe of an unlicensed crack brothel.
 
2022-09-29 10:38:42 AM  
How about pro Biden and we don't even mention the guy who's not running and currently busy in court?
 
2022-09-29 12:47:39 PM  
Almost like some sort of lack of array, TEH HILLZ?
 
2022-09-29 12:48:05 PM  
Ask the Democrats who ran from Obama and the ACA how that worked out for them.

As valid as all the complaints against Trump are, voters don't want to hear it.

Fix what he broke. And blast that you're fixing it through every possible media outlet.
 
2022-09-29 12:48:16 PM  
Just talk about reproductive rights.
 
2022-09-29 12:49:57 PM  
So, disarray?  Is that what you're trying to make us believe?
 
2022-09-29 12:49:58 PM  

Dafatone: Just talk about reproductive rights.


That too
 
2022-09-29 12:51:51 PM  
For the perennial political pundit, this will be the ONLY political analysis worth doing.  Because it's easy and they are extremely stupid people.

There is no other axis to examine any longer.  And there is no possible nuance beyond "President A is not like President B.  Or are they the same?  Maybe they are the same, but different? Let us spend hundreds of thousands of hours trying to compare and contrast these two geriatric humans instead of ... you know ... the future of the planet.
 
2022-09-29 12:53:12 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2022-09-29 12:54:41 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Ask the Democrats who ran from Obama and the ACA how that worked out for them.

As valid as all the complaints against Trump are, voters don't want to hear it.

Fix what he broke. And blast that you're fixing it through every possible media outlet.


But that would require progress, and the Democratic leadership has shown they would rather stay the course and court moderates than get anything done that would help people.  This is the problem with a coalition in a majority rule form of government.
 
2022-09-29 12:54:42 PM  

lilbjorn: So, disarray?  Is that what you're trying to make us believe?


It's The Derp, after all.  The blog that pretends to be news.
 
2022-09-29 12:56:29 PM  
You cite specific things you've done, specific things you're going to do.
You state that there is a cult mindset infecting American politics.  Until this cult is dissolved by truth as they all eventually are, and even though people say it every time, every farking vote genuinely matters.
 
2022-09-29 12:58:09 PM  

Zombie DJ: How about pro Biden and we don't even mention the guy who's not running and currently busy in court?


Bringing up someone who isn't even running only works on Trumpers cause their too dumb to realize Hillary is irrelevant now.
 
2022-09-29 12:59:20 PM  
It's like the various outlets woke up this morning and realized it's almost October, and that they must have a horserace at any cost.
 
2022-09-29 12:59:28 PM  
how about neither and you just unite in the middle instead of dividing us on both sides
 
2022-09-29 12:59:48 PM  

BeesNuts: For the perennial political pundit, this will be the ONLY political analysis worth doing.  Because it's easy and they are extremely stupid people.

There is no other axis to examine any longer.  And there is no possible nuance beyond "President A is not like President B.  Or are they the same?  Maybe they are the same, but different? Let us spend hundreds of thousands of hours trying to compare and contrast these two geriatric humans instead of ... you know ... the future of the planet.


and we need to describe and compare in absolutes rather than any kind of nuance.  nuance has ceased to exist.  why isn't president biden doing something about that?
 
2022-09-29 1:00:08 PM  
The US dollar.

/you can get a lot for 4 American Dollars
 
2022-09-29 1:00:40 PM  

Dafatone: Just talk about reproductive rights.


Honestly, this right here. It will mobalize the single issue voters on the right for whom Abortion is their one pet issue, but, it will motivate far far FAR more on the left. Especially if you pair it with a message of "Get your Ma, sister, grandma, girlfriend, registered. Let them send a message that their rights matter"

or something like that. Everything past that you can take to the mats in debates, but for bumper stickers, just plaster what Ladybugs said all over everything and take the fearmonger page out of the GOP playbook.
 
2022-09-29 1:02:09 PM  

harleyquinnical: Karma Chameleon: Ask the Democrats who ran from Obama and the ACA how that worked out for them.

As valid as all the complaints against Trump are, voters don't want to hear it.

Fix what he broke. And blast that you're fixing it through every possible media outlet.

But that would require progress, and the Democratic leadership has shown they would rather stay the course and court moderates than get anything done that would help people.  This is the problem with a coalition in a majority rule form of government.


This video is largely about courting "moderates."
The Alt-Right Playbook: The Cost of Doing Business
Youtube wCl33v5969M
 
2022-09-29 1:02:23 PM  

Zombie DJ: How about pro Biden and we don't even mention the guy who's not running and currently busy in court?


images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.comView Full Size
 
2022-09-29 1:03:26 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Talk about what you've done, and what you're going to do.

Trump is his own negative commercial and you're not going to convince a single one of his cult to switch a vote by reminding them they've devoted their lives to the personification of a wad of grease, hair and shiat caught in the drainage pipe of an unlicensed crack brothel.


Yup, TFG will keep himself in the news because of his ego.  Talk about what's been accomplished, since it's actually impressive.
 
2022-09-29 1:04:09 PM  

Zombie DJ: How about pro Biden and we don't even mention the guy who's not running and currently busy in court?


Yes, don't plan for the future. Who knows if he'll even run?

/sarcasm
//Why not both is the correct answer
 
2022-09-29 1:05:38 PM  
Is this the disarray I keep hearing so much about?
 
2022-09-29 1:09:50 PM  

I want that sauce Morty!: cause their too dumb


cdn.hinative.comView Full Size
 
2022-09-29 1:10:22 PM  

Palined Parenthood: how about neither and you just unite in the middle instead of dividing us on both sides


OK I'll move if you move.

*stepping right*
 
2022-09-29 1:12:07 PM  
TRUMP'S NOT farkING RUNNING!!

BBB got passed, the first gun control legislation in 30 years, the Inflation Reduction Act, the American Rescue Plan, the infrastructure law, the Chips law, the PACT burn pits act, the anti-Asian hate crimes law, the Violence Against Women Act, eliminating $10k of student debt, controlling drug prices.

RUN ON ALL OF THAT.

Also: Run on abortion and women's health/rights, run on medicare for all, run on affordable housing and college, run on legalizing weed, run on immigration reform and a revamping of DHS (eliminate ICE which has become a rogue paramilitary group) for more humane border policies, run on Ukraine's war of Independence from Russia (and frame it as such when talking about it -- it really is a war of Independence in the most patriotic sense).

Do not run away from policies. Do not run on being pro-person or anti-person. TFG is persona non grata. He is damnatio memoria'd. Do not even mention his name.

Stick to the issues, tell the people what you can and will do for them, and you will win.
 
2022-09-29 1:12:52 PM  

Ishkur: TRUMP'S NOT farkING RUNNING!!

BBB got passed, the first gun control legislation in 30 years, the Inflation Reduction Act, the American Rescue Plan, the infrastructure law, the Chips law, the PACT burn pits act, the anti-Asian hate crimes law, the Violence Against Women Act, eliminating $10k of student debt, controlling drug prices.

RUN ON ALL OF THAT.

Also: Run on abortion and women's health/rights, run on medicare for all, run on affordable housing and college, run on legalizing weed, run on immigration reform and a revamping of DHS (eliminate ICE which has become a rogue paramilitary group) for more humane border policies, run on Ukraine's war of Independence from Russia (and frame it as such when talking about it -- it really is a war of Independence in the most patriotic sense).

Do not run away from policies. Do not run on being pro-person or anti-person. TFG is persona non grata. He is damnatio memoria'd. Do not even mention his name.

Stick to the issues, tell the people what you can and will do for them, and you will win.


Works for 70 percent of the population, the rest not so much.
 
2022-09-29 1:13:12 PM  

lilbjorn: So, disarray?  Is that what you're trying to make us believe?


lordjupiter: Almost like some sort of lack of array, TEH HILLZ?


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2022-09-29 1:13:35 PM  
"Hey, look at all the stuff we fixed. By the way, the guy that broke that stuff broke a lot of other stuff we're trying to fix, and my opponent is trying to stop us fixing the other stuff, because they are lining up to lick the taint of the guy that broke all the stuff just to line his own pockets."
 
2022-09-29 1:18:57 PM  
Democratic voters (usually) tend to value candidate policies over emotional appeals, while Republican voters tend to vote strictly based on emotional appeals, especially fear and anger.

I imagine independents are harder to predict since they can lean either way, but with day to day life still a struggle for many it's probably an easier sell to remind them of the chaos of Trump and the repeal of Roe v Wade, than attempt to get mostly low info disinterested voters to notice all the good this admin has done, when Biden is still polling fairly low.

Most of these people probably still think the president has a gas price lever.
 
2022-09-29 1:19:37 PM  

LL316: Zombie DJ: How about pro Biden and we don't even mention the guy who's not running and currently busy in court?

Yes, don't plan for the future. Who knows if he'll even run?

/sarcasm
//Why not both is the correct answer


I gave you a smart. Why not both is the correct answer.

We can't let the public forget that republicans mishandled Covid, tried to overthrow the government, took away women's rights to medical care, snuggled up to Putin, protected guns over schoolchildren, and supported the sale of government secrets to foreigners.

It's also an uphill battle to inform voters on what democrats have done, since the so-called liberal media doesn't cover it. Example: the governor of Colorado took away taxes on social security income, but the local news didn't say a word.
 
2022-09-29 1:21:00 PM  
Progressives, rather, generally prefer to talk about policy than about their opposition. While many see Trump and his aligned candidates as existential threats, they often make the case that Democrats can actually succeed when they bring issues to the table. In that worldview, Republicans' efforts to deny elections and strip away certain Americans' rights can be more effectively matched by effective governance.

Well there you go.  Do that.
 
2022-09-29 1:25:53 PM  

harleyquinnical: Karma Chameleon: Ask the Democrats who ran from Obama and the ACA how that worked out for them.

As valid as all the complaints against Trump are, voters don't want to hear it.

Fix what he broke. And blast that you're fixing it through every possible media outlet.

But that would require progress, and the Democratic leadership has shown they would rather stay the course and court moderates than get anything done that would help people.  This is the problem with a coalition in a majority rule form of government.


Fark user imageView Full Size

So Gloomy...
 
2022-09-29 1:26:34 PM  
Just look at how Terry McAuliffe (D) ran his race against Glen Youngkin (R) in the Virginia governors race, and then don't do that.
 
2022-09-29 1:28:40 PM  
How about running on good policy instead?
 
2022-09-29 1:29:17 PM  

lordjupiter: Almost like some sort of lack of array, TEH HILLZ?


At least the Enquirer doesn't pretend to be serious journalism.
 
2022-09-29 1:31:02 PM  
Which party does the Nazi party support. If you vote for the same candidates as white supremacy groups maybe you need to rethink your position. Unless you identify with the politics of hate.
 
2022-09-29 1:33:16 PM  

whidbey: Works for 70 percent of the population, the rest not so much.


More than enough to win an election.

Any candidate will take those numbers in a heartbeat.
 
2022-09-29 1:41:02 PM  
Hold off on the extreme anti-gun talk. Beto torpedoed every ounce of momentum he had and lost Texas because of it. I want school shootings to end more than the next guy, but first I want accountability for career criminals politicians, and the elimination of Russian influence in DC.
 
2022-09-29 1:49:09 PM  
Once again, Democrats will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
2022-09-29 1:51:44 PM  
Talk about what you've done and how repubs tried to stop it. Talk about Roe. you're trying to boost your turnout.

Let trump do the job of making it about trump. a lot of republicans are walking away from trump. The maga base is getting bored with politics, you can see it in the poor protest and rally turnouts
 
2022-09-29 1:51:59 PM  

Ishkur: whidbey: Works for 70 percent of the population, the rest not so much.

More than enough to win an election.

Any candidate will take those numbers in a heartbeat.


"The rest" are voters in derpy states needed to win a presidency, though.
 
2022-09-29 1:53:23 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Talk about what you've done, and what you're going to do.

Trump is his own negative commercial and you're not going to convince a single one of his cult to switch a vote by reminding them they've devoted their lives to the personification of a wad of grease, hair and shiat caught in the drainage pipe of an unlicensed crack brothel.


On top of it Trump isn't even in power. Gives them the Trump Derangement Syndrome to latch onto.

But Biden isn't popular enough to push. So as you said, campaign on passed bills
 
2022-09-29 1:54:54 PM  

lilbjorn: So, disarray?  Is that what you're trying to make us believe?


I'm sure a thread will come up where that may be relevant, but you jumped the gun here.
 
2022-09-29 1:56:36 PM  

BlazeTrailer: lilbjorn: So, disarray?  Is that what you're trying to make us believe?

I'm sure a thread will come up where that may be relevant, but you jumped the gun here.


No he didn't. It's The Hill, and they're not pro-Democrat by any stretch of the imagination.
 
2022-09-29 2:02:15 PM  

Turbo6inKY: Once again, Democrats will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


This phrase should be filtered to something unspeakable and embarrassing.
 
2022-09-29 2:04:56 PM  
And I love how the same butthurt poster has a problem with unpleasant truths.
 
2022-09-29 2:05:04 PM  
The only time to mention Trump is to tie the direct support of candidate x to Trump's lawlessness.

The only time to mention Biden is to say candidate x did specific action y which prevented Biden from passing specific and relevant policy z to help you with the clearly expressed and specific problem you just mentioned.

Every other message needs to be Abortion. Not "women's health choices" or "personal liberty" or any other vague generalization... Abortion. Tie it into bigger themes when appropriate, but stop trying to soften it and hide it. Abortion is a valuable medical procedure and 70% of the country recognizes that to some degree, and the other side has shown that they will not stop until it is unavailable to any degree. Treating abortion as a necessary evil got us where we are. "Safe, legal, and rare" was the right message for the 1990s, but it should have been dropped as soon as 2016 was called for Trump.

Now the message needs to be "Abortion consists of several important and valuable medical procedures that saves women's lives and promotes healthy families. Republicans wants to force kids to have babies, force women to carry corpses to term, and kill the mothers of kids who are already here, and they will say and do anything to keep you from voting against them."
 
2022-09-29 2:46:14 PM  

bighairyguy: Just look at how Terry McAuliffe (D) ran his race against Glen Youngkin (R) in the Virginia governors race, and then don't do that.


Also, the VA Democrats could've selected somebody who would've attacked Youngkin's history with an aggressively anti-worker private equity fund. Instead, they went with somebody who'd invested in that fund themselves.
 
2022-09-29 3:04:40 PM  

TypoFlyspray: lilbjorn: So, disarray?  Is that what you're trying to make us believe?

lordjupiter: Almost like some sort of lack of array, TEH HILLZ?

[Fark user image 754x990]


I teared up a little
 
Displayed 50 of 54 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.