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(Some Guy)   Memo to Kevin Hart: People do make mistakes. But mistakes don't typically involve assault   (wedr.com) divider line
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2022-09-29 5:16:04 AM  
Are we still on this BS?
 
2022-09-29 5:26:38 AM  
Maybe if Smith prevents his son from ever "acting" again, we'll call it even.
 
2022-09-29 5:49:01 AM  
Yes it was assault, and I'm sure Chris Rock neither enjoyed the experience at the time or has had a super easy time getting over it, but in the context of every assault that happens it was at the very low end. Cops fark people up much worse every day, effectively "the state" beating up people, and get away with it. Kids get bullied in schools while teachers turn a blind eye. Fights break out at suburban amateur sporting events that go beyond a slap. I don't even want to think about prisons.

My point is the media needs to get over it and stop asking Rock's and Smith's friends to keep commenting on it, and subby would do better to find a more significant issue to submit an article about. Nothing is achieved here.
 
2022-09-29 5:53:05 AM  
From the headline it looks like Kevin Hart had assaulted someone, and all I can picture is breaking his wrist on Chris Rock's belly.
 
2022-09-29 6:02:37 AM  

Smoking GNU: Are we still on this BS?


IKR?  It's like a slap in the face every time I see it
 
2022-09-29 6:02:43 AM  
Having been a bouncer, Smitty,my weekend load did NOT bear this headline's premise out...
 
2022-09-29 6:04:24 AM  

hubiestubert: Having been a bouncer, Smitty,my weekend load did NOT bear this headline's premise out...


Well there's mistakes, and then there's mistakes the bouncer is forced to notice
 
2022-09-29 6:10:01 AM  
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2022-09-29 6:21:16 AM  
I don't give a sh*t if Rock's creeper stalker ass gets smacked in public every day of the week. I do have an issue with this statement:

Hart said. "Studios took the gamble on more leads of color because of the work that Will Smith, Denzel [Washington] were doing in the beginning, right?


That is bullsh*t, Smith didn't open a single door for Denzel Washington. His talent and did.
 
2022-09-29 6:32:28 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: hubiestubert: Having been a bouncer, Smitty,my weekend load did NOT bear this headline's premise out...

Well there's mistakes, and then there's mistakes the bouncer is forced to notice


Ironically, most of the times I had to intervene, it was to use my words. Talking someone down was a good sized part of my job. If we had to lay hands on someone, that was considered a breakdown on OUR end. To not notice the situation earlier, to having overserved someone, to let having let them through the door in the first place.

You can't always get folks to the point where they hug it out, but you often can get them to let it go in public and acknowledge that maybe their anger doesn't have to include a beat down.
 
2022-09-29 6:33:09 AM  

Smoking GNU: Are we still on this BS?


Beotch Slap?
 
2022-09-29 6:36:03 AM  

Bslim: Hart said. "Studios took the gamble on more leads of color because of the work that Will Smith, Denzel [Washington] were doing in the beginning, right?


That is bullsh*t, Smith didn't open a single door for Denzel Washington. His talent and did.


That's not what Hart is saying.  He's saying both Smith and Washington paved the way for others.
 
2022-09-29 6:39:33 AM  
A sodium atom bumps into a chlorine atom...
 
2022-09-29 6:47:03 AM  

Smoking GNU: Are we still on this BS?


Some people still care about ethics in that country
 
2022-09-29 6:47:38 AM  

hubiestubert: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: hubiestubert: Having been a bouncer, Smitty,my weekend load did NOT bear this headline's premise out...

Well there's mistakes, and then there's mistakes the bouncer is forced to notice

Ironically, most of the times I had to intervene, it was to use my words. Talking someone down was a good sized part of my job. If we had to lay hands on someone, that was considered a breakdown on OUR end. To not notice the situation earlier, to having overserved someone, to let having let them through the door in the first place.

You can't always get folks to the point where they hug it out, but you often can get them to let it go in public and acknowledge that maybe their anger doesn't have to include a beat down.


Oh sure - I wasn't going there.  I meant people are probably making a ton of awful mistakes, just not necessarily ones that concern you

/"Well he says he isn't married and that's good enough for me!"
//"He looksh hot <hic!>"
///Long Island Ice Tea?  That sounds light and refreshing...
 
2022-09-29 6:49:40 AM  

Glitchwerks: Bslim: Hart said. "Studios took the gamble on more leads of color because of the work that Will Smith, Denzel [Washington] were doing in the beginning, right?


That is bullsh*t, Smith didn't open a single door for Denzel Washington. His talent and did.

That's not what Hart is saying.  He's saying both Smith and Washington paved the way for others.


But surely you will agree that there were no people of color talented and enough to be leads before Denzel Washington?
 
2022-09-29 7:13:54 AM  
Didn't this guy cheat on his hot wife?
 
2022-09-29 7:14:19 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: ///Long Island Ice Tea?  That sounds light and refreshing...


...and that's how I hooked up with my ex-wife.

Alcohol. The cause and the solution to all of life's problems.
 
2022-09-29 7:16:13 AM  
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2022-09-29 7:38:43 AM  
Dear Kevin,

We get it....you are short and loud.

Sincerely,

Everyone
 
2022-09-29 7:51:49 AM  
I think Chris Rock has moved on.  Hart, on the other hand, apparently felt he hadn't been in the gossip media cycle for a while and opened his whore mouth.

/Yes, whore, because he's selling out his dignity for money.  Not the sexy kind of whore.
 
2022-09-29 8:00:30 AM  
Kevin Hart is tired of people mistaking him for Chris Rock and slapping him.
 
2022-09-29 8:05:30 AM  
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We all have it coming.
 
2022-09-29 8:24:55 AM  
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2022-09-29 8:30:14 AM  

sephjnr: From the headline it looks like Kevin Hart had assaulted someone, and all I can picture is breaking his wrist on Chris Rock's belly.


He'd look like Little Mac taking on Mike Tyson.
 
2022-09-29 8:33:42 AM  
Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).
 
2022-09-29 8:44:11 AM  

Bslim: I don't give a sh*t if Rock's creeper stalker ass gets smacked in public every day of the week. I do have an issue with this statement:

Hart said. "Studios took the gamble on more leads of color because of the work that Will Smith, Denzel [Washington] were doing in the beginning, right?


That is bullsh*t, Smith didn't open a single door for Denzel Washington. His talent and did.


Is your reading comprehension off or did somebody smack you across the face?

And I'm sure James Earl Jones and Sidney Poitier was so pleased Denzel and Sith opened them three doors for em.
 
2022-09-29 8:48:09 AM  

thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).


There's something to be said for Eddie Murphy, but it's a glaring omission not to mention Sidney Poitier first, no? Unless you're only talking about comedy.
 
2022-09-29 8:53:08 AM  

The_Sponge: Dear Kevin,

We get it....you are short and loud.

Sincerely,

Everyone


"ME AND MUH BOYS, WE WAS AT THE CLUB..."
 
2022-09-29 8:55:38 AM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

There's something to be said for Eddie Murphy, but it's a glaring omission not to mention Sidney Poitier first, no? Unless you're only talking about comedy.


Ummm...

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2022-09-29 8:58:46 AM  
Actually it was Sinatra
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Do you know Frank Sinatra? He's dead
 
2022-09-29 9:01:48 AM  

WhippingBoi: Eddie Hazel's E string: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

There's something to be said for Eddie Murphy, but it's a glaring omission not to mention Sidney Poitier first, no? Unless you're only talking about comedy.

Ummm...

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Yep, I'd agree that Cosby opened some doors before Murphy, again in the realm of comedy. I was responding to someone talking about Murphy, not rolling him out as my first mention.

And Sidney Poitier had an Oscar nomination before Cosby's career even began.
 
2022-09-29 9:07:46 AM  

LewDux: But surely you will agree that there were no people of color talented and enough to be leads before Denzel Washington?


Oh please... 
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2022-09-29 9:08:03 AM  

LewDux: Actually it was Sinatra
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Do you know Frank Sinatra? He's dead


Nancy is going to be devastated. :(
 
2022-09-29 9:37:01 AM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

There's something to be said for Eddie Murphy, but it's a glaring omission not to mention Sidney Poitier first, no? Unless you're only talking about comedy.


WhippingBoi: Eddie Hazel's E string: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

There's something to be said for Eddie Murphy, but it's a glaring omission not to mention Sidney Poitier first, no? Unless you're only talking about comedy.

Ummm...

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I'm talking specifically about leading man in Hollywood tentpole movies, responding to Hart's claim "that Studios took the gamble on more leads of color because of the work that Will Smith, Denzel [Washington] were doing in the beginning."

Murphy was hardly the first Black entertainer to become an in-house name, but he was the first to become box office star. Adjusted for inflation, Beverly Hills Cop brought in $620 million domestically. Only one other movie with a Black lead has made more money domestically: Black Panther.

His first movie, 48 Hours, when he was only 21(!), made $239 million adjusted domestically; Trading Place the next years was $267 million; Coming to America in 1988 was $320 million.

No other Black leading actor had ever posted numbers like that (and Cosby never had much of a film career -- he was mostly TV).

Eddie Murphy is a freaking legend.
 
2022-09-29 9:48:50 AM  

thornhill: His first movie, 48 Hours, when he was only 21(!)


Hey, Jack, tell me a story...
 
2022-09-29 9:51:51 AM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

There's something to be said for Eddie Murphy, but it's a glaring omission not to mention Sidney Poitier first, no? Unless you're only talking about comedy.


To be fair, most of the movies that Poitier was in were about racial justice. It took a while before black leads were cast in movies where race relations was not the theme. Beverly Hills Cop may be one of the first movies where the lead could have just as easily been white. I think that is an important distinction.

Washington is probably the first black leading man that was seen as a "heartthrob" by the general population. He may be the first black "A-List" celebrity? Murphy was pretty popular back in '84, but I think still seen as just a comedic actor.

//I am not slighting Poitier's talent. He was just too early to be accepted as a general male lead.
 
2022-09-29 10:05:57 AM  

thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).


Uh, Sidney Poitier?
 
2022-09-29 10:08:30 AM  

sozelle: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

Uh, Sidney Poitier?


(Oops, see now that it's been covered quite well already)
 
2022-09-29 10:27:30 AM  

sozelle: sozelle: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

Uh, Sidney Poitier?

(Oops, see now that it's been covered quite well already)


Ben Vereen?
 
2022-09-29 10:47:11 AM  
Glitchwerks:

Sidney Pottier rolls over in grave.
 
2022-09-29 10:49:50 AM  
GameSprocket:

Those theme needed to be explored so guys like Murphy could do their thing in the mainstream
 
2022-09-29 10:50:28 AM  

AuralArgument: Glitchwerks:

Sidney Pottier rolls over in grave.


Take it up with Kevin Hart then.
 
2022-09-29 11:00:59 AM  

AuralArgument: GameSprocket:

Those theme needed to be explored so guys like Murphy could do their thing in the mainstream


True, and I think Poitier could have been a Denzel Washington if his career had been later. Of course, there would have had to have been another Poitier to cover that ground. The short version is that he was as powerful an actor as any other, but he had to set the group for others.
 
2022-09-29 11:07:25 AM  
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2022-09-29 11:13:32 AM  

GameSprocket: Eddie Hazel's E string: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

There's something to be said for Eddie Murphy, but it's a glaring omission not to mention Sidney Poitier first, no? Unless you're only talking about comedy.

To be fair, most of the movies that Poitier was in were about racial justice. It took a while before black leads were cast in movies where race relations was not the theme. Beverly Hills Cop may be one of the first movies where the lead could have just as easily been white. I think that is an important distinction.

Washington is probably the first black leading man that was seen as a "heartthrob" by the general population. He may be the first black "A-List" celebrity? Murphy was pretty popular back in '84, but I think still seen as just a comedic actor.

//I am not slighting Poitier's talent. He was just too early to be accepted as a general male lead.


Exactly, and Eddie Murphy's run of movies in the 1980s culminates with Coming To America, a movie with an all Black cast about middle-class Black Americans. Even as late as the 1980s, moves with an all Black cast were typically about either poverty, crime, or the humble dignity of being poor. And, this was the first to be a major studio film.
 
2022-09-29 11:46:08 AM  

hubiestubert: Ironically, most of the times I had to intervene, it was to use my words. Talking someone down was a good sized part of my job. If we had to lay hands on someone, that was considered a breakdown on OUR end. To not notice the situation earlier, to having overserved someone, to let having let them through the door in the first place.


Be nice...until it's time to not be nice.
 
2022-09-29 12:32:46 PM  

thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).


You've heard of Richard Pryor, yes? Red Foxx? If it has to come down to one person, it would be someone from vaudeville or earlier most likely.
 
2022-09-29 12:43:23 PM  

Gnaglor: thornhill: Eh, if you want to be outraged by Hart's comments, Eddie Murphy was the one who paved the way for Black actors, and specifically Smith. He was the token Black on SNL who quickly became the most popular cast member at the time. In the 1980s he was the leading man in a string of highly successful movies, cumulating in Coming to America, which doesn't get enough credit for being the first true box office hit with an entirely Black-led cast (and also has a positive depiction of Black Americans).

You've heard of Richard Pryor, yes? Red Foxx? If it has to come down to one person, it would be someone from vaudeville or earlier most likely.


Perhaps either Amos or Andy, or Al Jolson.
 
2022-09-29 12:51:04 PM  
Why is it his business?  Is he working with Willy?
 
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