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(Abc.net.au)   Five days ago the late American mountaineer Hilaree Nelson wrote: "I haven't felt as sure-footed on Manaslu as I have on past adventures"   (abc.net.au) divider line
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2022-09-28 8:29:16 AM  
What's that is that old saying?

Pride goeth before...


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2022-09-28 9:53:38 AM  
That chick had more courage and moxie than I, but there are HUGE risks with that sort of activity.  Sometimes, you win, sometimes you lose.  RIP, big risk taker lady.
 
2022-09-28 9:54:07 AM  
She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.


Damn man
 
2022-09-28 9:56:05 AM  
If you get your thrills from taking risks...eventually you'll land on the other side of the coin.
 
2022-09-28 9:56:07 AM  
 She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.


Well that's awful.
 
2022-09-28 9:57:51 AM  
Play stupid games win stupid prizes and put the lives of rescuers in the balance for your pleasure.
 
2022-09-28 9:58:55 AM  
Hilaree Nelson fell while descending Mount Manaslu


That is known as a "faster than anticipated, descend".
 
2022-09-28 9:59:12 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.

Damn man


Has anyone investigated this "Mr Morrison"?
 
2022-09-28 10:01:43 AM  

fiddlehead: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.

Well that's awful.


He's got a type.
 
2022-09-28 10:02:03 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: HotWingConspiracy: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.

Damn man

Has anyone investigated this "Mr Morrison"?


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2022-09-28 10:02:27 AM  
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2022-09-28 10:02:54 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: That chick had more courage and moxie than I, but there are HUGE risks with that sort of activity.  Sometimes, you win, sometimes you lose.  RIP, big risk taker lady.



Parents probably should forgo big risk hobbies, until their children no longer depend on them.
 
2022-09-28 10:04:41 AM  
https://www.si.com/sports-illustrated/2020/02/06/lhotse-skiing-jim-morrison-hilaree-ne

Interesting article about both of them and their backgrounds.  Bit of a long read.  I would guess that they probably both knew something like this could happen to either of them or both of them with their lifestyle.
 
2022-09-28 10:06:59 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Dr Jack Badofsky: That chick had more courage and moxie than I, but there are HUGE risks with that sort of activity.  Sometimes, you win, sometimes you lose.  RIP, big risk taker lady.


Parents probably should forgo big risk hobbies, until their children no longer depend on them.


I wonder if there's a lot of money in that kind of thing.  Endorsements and the like.
 
2022-09-28 10:15:29 AM  
I look forward to reading the American Alpine Club accident analysis on this, and reading about the series of mistakes that led to her death.
 
2022-09-28 10:17:52 AM  
That lady was farking hardcore.
 
2022-09-28 10:18:24 AM  

CarnySaur: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Dr Jack Badofsky: That chick had more courage and moxie than I, but there are HUGE risks with that sort of activity.  Sometimes, you win, sometimes you lose.  RIP, big risk taker lady.


Parents probably should forgo big risk hobbies, until their children no longer depend on them.

I wonder if there's a lot of money in that kind of thing.  Endorsements and the like.


Just checked. She did have sponsors, and would get booked for speaking events.

I'm sure at her level there was some money to be made.
I guess if that was her career, then it makes a little more sense.
Still, it sucks for her kids to have to go through the trauma of losing a parent.
 
2022-09-28 10:20:02 AM  

CarnySaur: I wonder if there's a lot of money in that kind of thing.  Endorsements and the like.


I imagine it's less about endorsements and more about endorphins.
 
2022-09-28 10:28:18 AM  
Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.
 
2022-09-28 10:36:52 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.

Damn man


I guess he has a type.
 
2022-09-28 10:37:39 AM  

farkitallletitend: fiddlehead: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.

Well that's awful.

He's got a type.


Oops, guess I should have read ahead two posts before saying the same thing.
 
2022-09-28 10:43:35 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Dr Jack Badofsky: That chick had more courage and moxie than I, but there are HUGE risks with that sort of activity.  Sometimes, you win, sometimes you lose.  RIP, big risk taker lady.


Parents probably should forgo big risk hobbies, until their children no longer depend on them.


It's not up to you or me to make their decisions for them.  It's a miracle that Travis Pastrana is still (mostly) in one piece after all the stuff he's done.  Jumping from a plane with no parachute?  Driving a top fuel dragster with ZERO drag racing experience?  Double backflips on a dirt bike?  That is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
Pew
2022-09-28 10:44:01 AM  
On a PBS show, brain surgeon Dr Amen said people over 50 should stay off ladders to avoid head trauma. Something to consider, fellow geezers.
 
2022-09-28 10:45:22 AM  
"Man, those sherpas are a surly bunch."
 
2022-09-28 10:47:18 AM  
I feel sorry for people who are just hanging out, minding their own business and going about their mundane daily lives and them BLAM, they get killed.

These people, not so much.
 
2022-09-28 10:53:12 AM  
Gravity is a cruel mistress.
 
2022-09-28 10:54:34 AM  

Pew: On a PBS show, brain surgeon Dr Amen said people over 50 should stay off ladders to avoid head trauma. Something to consider, fellow geezers.


LOL. I'm on ladders and roofs every day and still have 10 years at least before I retire. I'm 56 and am not noticeably more fragile yet.
 
2022-09-28 10:57:28 AM  

Trucker: Gravity is a cruel mistress.


It keeps holding me down.
 
2022-09-28 10:57:41 AM  

wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.


Edmund Hillary lived to 88, so.... You're full of shiat.
 
2022-09-28 10:59:29 AM  

ace in your face: wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.

Edmund Hillary lived to 88, so.... You're full of shiat.


Weren't his last words "AAAAAaaaaaaaa"?
 
2022-09-28 11:01:23 AM  

ace in your face: wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.

Edmund Hillary lived to 88, so.... You're full of shiat.


Of the 45 people who climbed all the 14 8000M peaks, 3 died before they were 50.  The first guy to do it (and did them all without oxygen), is still alive at 78
 
2022-09-28 11:03:13 AM  

Ray_Finkle: without oxygen


Didn't know that was possible.
 
2022-09-28 11:03:25 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.

Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.

Damn man


He's got a type
 
2022-09-28 11:05:57 AM  

question_dj: I look forward to reading the American Alpine Club accident analysis on this, and reading about the series of mistakes that led to her death.


They put out a yearly book? Is that the Annual American Alpine Club Accident Analysis Almanach?
 
2022-09-28 11:05:57 AM  

Ray_Finkle: ace in your face: wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.

Edmund Hillary lived to 88, so.... You're full of shiat.

Of the 45 people who climbed all the 14 8000M peaks, 3 died before they were 50.  The first guy to do it (and did them all without oxygen), is still alive at 78


To be fair, the fact that the people who are the best at what they do didn't die doing it doesn't change the fact that most climbers are not the best. I don't give a shiat if climbers die climbing. I used to BASE jump. Climb away. Just don't be asking anyone else to risk their lives to save you when/if you fark up.
 
2022-09-28 11:06:31 AM  

wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.


This guy disagrees with you
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2022-09-28 11:07:15 AM  

wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Beckey

Catchy phrases don't contend well with reality.
 
2022-09-28 11:09:21 AM  

Ray_Finkle: ace in your face: wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.

Edmund Hillary lived to 88, so.... You're full of shiat.

Of the 45 people who climbed all the 14 8000M peaks, 3 died before they were 50.  The first guy to do it (and did them all without oxygen), is still alive at 78


And he - Reinhold Messner - is still doing great. Saw him on TV in a talk show just yesterday.
 
2022-09-28 11:20:24 AM  

drewogatory: Ray_Finkle: ace in your face: wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.

Edmund Hillary lived to 88, so.... You're full of shiat.

Of the 45 people who climbed all the 14 8000M peaks, 3 died before they were 50.  The first guy to do it (and did them all without oxygen), is still alive at 78

To be fair, the fact that the people who are the best at what they do didn't die doing it doesn't change the fact that most climbers are not the best. I don't give a shiat if climbers die climbing. I used to BASE jump. Climb away. Just don't be asking anyone else to risk their lives to save you when/if you fark up.


In the case of truly top flight high altitude mountaineers (and Hilaree certainly qualified) they understand the risks, and in the vast majority of their cases the people who would be performing their rescues are mostly from that same group - they self-support (for the most part) in that community specifically to try to mitigate the risk to others.
 
2022-09-28 11:22:49 AM  

Paddy: question_dj: I look forward to reading the American Alpine Club accident analysis on this, and reading about the series of mistakes that led to her death.

They put out a yearly book? Is that the Annual American Alpine Club Accident Analysis Almanach?


Every year! If you're a member, you get it for free.
 
2022-09-28 11:31:04 AM  

farkitallletitend: fiddlehead: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.
Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.
Well that's awful.
He's got a type.


This reminds me of a mountaineer who lived locally, who was killed in the big Everest disaster in the late 90s.  His climbing partner and best friend visited the widow after the accident to offer his sympathy.  They got married later.  As far as I know, this husband is still alive.

/I would have heard. He is also a world-class mountaineer.
 
2022-09-28 11:37:28 AM  

cryinoutloud: farkitallletitend: fiddlehead: She leaves behind two children as well as her partner, Mr Morrison.
Mr Morrison previously lost his wife and two young children in a plane crash in 2011.
Well that's awful.
He's got a type.

This reminds me of a mountaineer who lived locally, who was killed in the big Everest disaster in the late 90s.  His climbing partner and best friend visited the widow after the accident to offer his sympathy.  They got married later.  As far as I know, this husband is still alive.

/I would have heard. He is also a world-class mountaineer.


You're almost certainly thinking of Alex Lowe, who died in an avalanche on Shishapangma in 1999. His best friend and climbing partner, Conrad Anker (who survived that same avalanche) is now married to Alex's widow, Jenni Lowe-Anker. Conrad is still alive, though he did nearly die of a heart attack at altitude trying to summit Luang Ri.
 
2022-09-28 11:50:45 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Play stupid games win stupid prizes and put the lives of rescuers in the balance for your pleasure.


STFU
 
2022-09-28 11:52:31 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: put the lives of rescuers in the balance for your pleasure


the rescuers are typically volunteers that also enjoy this lifestyle.
 
2022-09-28 11:52:58 AM  

New Rising Sun: https://www.si.com/sports-illustrated/2020/02/06/lhotse-skiing-jim-morrison-hilaree-ne
Interesting article about both of them and their backgrounds.  Bit of a long read.  I would guess that they probably both knew something like this could happen to either of them or both of them with their lifestyle.


I don't get it.  I mean I do get it, but it's still dumb. They both became adventurers like this because they were escaping from their pasts that included death from doing risky things.  (you can say that flying your own plane isn't risky, but it's a lot riskier than NOT flying your own plane, isn't it?)
Then the both of them hook up and decide to keep courting death for a living.  It sounds like kind of an extreme way of working out your demons, and true to what she was playing with all the time, she got her wish.  Her conscience is clear now--whoops, what about all the people you left behind who will cry for years now?

She thought she'd hate it, but she likes that she can model achievement to young girls, women and moms.

That's not achievement. That's escaping. Granted, she was very good at what she did. So are lots of other athletes who live normal lives.  Also that's selling your escapist lifestyle to sponsors so that you can keep doing it.  I wonder how many sponsors she had?
I bet her story would have sounded a lot different if they hadn't found sponsors for it.   Like they wouldn't have been able to indulge in their extreme passions, and just stayed normal people who did some exciting trips, instead of advertising the fark out of mountain climbing.  And Mount Everest wouldn't look like this

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Tell me how exceptional you are by shutting the fark up about it.
 
2022-09-28 11:55:57 AM  
For the record it wasn't the fall that killed her...it was the sudden stop at the end.

/and probably the weather
 
2022-09-28 11:57:00 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Dr Jack Badofsky: That chick had more courage and moxie than I, but there are HUGE risks with that sort of activity.  Sometimes, you win, sometimes you lose.  RIP, big risk taker lady.


Parents probably should forgo big risk hobbies, until their children no longer depend on them.

It's not up to you or me to make their decisions for them.



Well, she did not run it past me when she made that last climb, so you are correct.
I did not have a hand in that decision.
 
2022-09-28 11:57:40 AM  
Another activity to file under:
"You're either Grand Champion or stuff on a rock."

Young Norm Macdonald Stand Up on MTV
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2022-09-28 11:59:59 AM  

wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.


Pray tell, are there cold climbers?
 
2022-09-28 12:04:11 PM  

Pert: wax_on: Mountaineering, the stupidest sport. Even if you're good at it your luck runs out at some point.

There are old climbers and there are bold climbers. There are no old, bold climbers.

Pray tell, are there cold climbers?


Oh yes, just ask about the boots.
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