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(CBS News)   City in California: We're considering legislation that would ban abortions in our city. California Attorney General: FAFO   (cbsnews.com) divider line
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2022-09-27 10:25:10 PM  
Is that even something that can be done at the city/county level?  I would think that something of that nature would require the State Legislature to weigh-in, but I honestly don't know.
 
2022-09-27 11:59:35 PM  
City council stay in your farking lane. Sewers, sidewalks and services. That's it. Do the job you were elected to do. Go up the chain if you want to pass legislation.
 
2022-09-28 12:50:04 AM  
Jessica Alexander (the councilwoman who proposed the ban) is a "special" kind of derp.  From local news coverage of the ban proposal.

Alexander has previously called COVID-19 "the China virus," compared her opposition to wearing masks to the struggle of civil rights icon Rosa Parks, and opposed creation of Temecula's diversity and inclusion committee. In spring, residents said she tried to stop a private drag show, organized in the city by two gay men. And in June she criticized the city for its proclamation declaring June as Pride Month recognizing the local LGBTQ community.


Fortunately, she's only one of five on the council.  Unfortunately, she's not up for reelection this year.  Even more unfortunately, two of the seats which are up for election have similarly derptastic candidates in the running.
 
2022-09-28 5:59:28 AM  
"Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

This must be it. It's just noon around here and but I think I'm done for the day.
 
2022-09-28 6:00:29 AM  
It's farking Temecula - even the rest of the craphole territory out that way farking hates Temecula
 
2022-09-28 6:02:05 AM  

Paddy: "Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

This must be it. It's just noon around here and but I think I'm done for the day.


It's 6am here and I think you might be right
 
2022-09-28 6:03:04 AM  

Paddy: "Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

This must be it. It's just noon around here and but I think I'm done for the day.


It's not quite dawn here.. but 'womb to tomb' can be the same thing, if they get their way.
 
2022-09-28 6:06:22 AM  
Just devil's advocating here but if it was precedented that cities could do it, places like Austin in Texas could use the same precedent to tell the state legislature to go fark themselves. It has to work both ways. But yeah, SCOSA's already made it a state's issue not a county one.
 
2022-09-28 6:07:18 AM  
So if I put Buy One Get One Free abortion coupons on all the cars in the Temecula High School parking lot, is that wrong, should I not do that?  Would that piss off the Temecula City Council?
 
2022-09-28 6:10:28 AM  
Many years ago I had the pleasure of being awakend , actually, they never really let me sleep, by a flock of peacocks , at the Cilurzo Winery. Waking up hungover as fark to go and brew 2 barrels or ale on the back of a toyota pickup at a homebrewers festival was something that I am glad that I did.
That is my memory of Temecula, and going with Vinnie the day after to his first brewery was another.
That was many years ago, I drove through Temecula ,many times since then  and its just a suburban sprawl now.
 
2022-09-28 6:12:01 AM  

Paddy: "Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

This must be it. It's just noon around here and but I think I'm done for the day.


Sounds like she's a big proponent of universal healthcare, so everybody is covered from womb to tomb.
 
2022-09-28 6:29:07 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Is that even something that can be done at the city/county level?  I would think that something of that nature would require the State Legislature to weigh-in, but I honestly don't know.


I gonna admit I didn't read the article but I could see it as banning providers in an area to effective ban abortion. It'd be like a town saying no pot shops despite the fact it's legal in the state.
 
2022-09-28 6:32:12 AM  
Don't like abortions? Don't get one.

Don't like that they're legal? Move your stupid ass to Idaho.
 
2022-09-28 6:38:25 AM  
Abortion has gone from being a national right under Roe vs Wade to a states right under this current court to a town right as per TFA, it's only a matter of time before it becomes an individual right and it's back to where it began.
 
2022-09-28 6:55:21 AM  

Paddy: "Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

This must be it. It's just noon around here and but I think I'm done for the day.


Off topic but I read your profile; I was at Love Parade '98.  Had just gotten off a plane with my high school class and we were... not expecting that.  Was awesome!
 
2022-09-28 7:21:37 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Is that even something that can be done at the city/county level?  I would think that something of that nature would require the State Legislature to weigh-in, but I honestly don't know.


I've actually thought about that. What COULD the state do...if a city just wouldn't comply vis-a-vis abortion bans? Mainly, they'd be limited to financial penalties.
 
2022-09-28 7:23:54 AM  

iheartscotch: Sin_City_Superhero: Is that even something that can be done at the city/county level?  I would think that something of that nature would require the State Legislature to weigh-in, but I honestly don't know.

I've actually thought about that. What COULD the state do...if a city just wouldn't comply vis-a-vis abortion bans? Mainly, they'd be limited to financial penalties.


What could the city do?

If someone opens an abortion clinic and the city police try to shut it down you send in the state police to arrest the locals.
 
2022-09-28 7:36:20 AM  

PineappleOnPizza: iheartscotch: Sin_City_Superhero: Is that even something that can be done at the city/county level?  I would think that something of that nature would require the State Legislature to weigh-in, but I honestly don't know.

I've actually thought about that. What COULD the state do...if a city just wouldn't comply vis-a-vis abortion bans? Mainly, they'd be limited to financial penalties.

What could the city do?

If someone opens an abortion clinic and the city police try to shut it down you send in the state police to arrest the locals.


You'd need the whole city, including the local police.

/ The whole thing could absolutely go sideways REAL quick if the difference police departments start a dick measuring contest
 
2022-09-28 7:46:49 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: It's farking Temecula - even the rest of the craphole territory out that way farking hates Temecula


Temecula always sounded like the name of a skin condition to me.

Like an irritating heat rash between your ass cheeks or similar.
 
2022-09-28 7:49:05 AM  
"Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

Life: From womb to tomb
could be an abortion clinic's slogan.
 
2022-09-28 8:48:00 AM  
City level bans? Why not just take it a tiny bit further and allow individuals to decide if they want to ban abortion for themselves.
 
2022-09-28 8:49:44 AM  

PineappleOnPizza: iheartscotch: Sin_City_Superhero: Is that even something that can be done at the city/county level?  I would think that something of that nature would require the State Legislature to weigh-in, but I honestly don't know.

I've actually thought about that. What COULD the state do...if a city just wouldn't comply vis-a-vis abortion bans? Mainly, they'd be limited to financial penalties.

What could the city do?

If someone opens an abortion clinic and the city police try to shut it down you send in the state police to arrest the locals.


The relationship state government has to cities and towns is fundamentally different than the one the federal government has to the states.  Unlike states, cities and towns are not sovereign entities.  All of their power, indeed their very existence, is at the pleasure of the state.  Basically, the state has the authority to muscle in and take over, although this power is usually highly curtailed by laws and regulations.  None the less, states can lord it over towns in ways the feds cannot even dream of doing to the states.
 
2022-09-28 8:53:17 AM  
I guess I won't be visiting or shopping in Temecula anytime soon. Everything is ridiculously overpriced in town, anyway, due to the wineries, who themselves charge crazy money for inexpensive CA wine to pay for pretty buildings.
 
2022-09-28 9:13:35 AM  
Do they expect out of state republicans will support them? The red state abortion banning republicans will absolutely not support them because if they did, that would destroy their own state bans. To summarize, this town has been abandoned by the republican party.
 
2022-09-28 9:19:17 AM  

kevinatilusa: Jessica Alexander (the councilwoman who proposed the ban) is a "special" kind of derp.  From local news coverage of the ban proposal.

Alexander has previously called COVID-19 "the China virus," compared her opposition to wearing masks to the struggle of civil rights icon Rosa Parks, and opposed creation of Temecula's diversity and inclusion committee. In spring, residents said she tried to stop a private drag show, organized in the city by two gay men. And in June she criticized the city for its proclamation declaring June as Pride Month recognizing the local LGBTQ community.


Fortunately, she's only one of five on the council.  Unfortunately, she's not up for reelection this year.  Even more unfortunately, two of the seats which are up for election have similarly derptastic candidates in the running.


Sadly, I knew this was gonna be Temecula before reading the article. Place was full of conservative assholes before Trump, so not surprised they're even more insufferable
 
2022-09-28 9:55:02 AM  
I drove through there on my way to somewhere else once.
 
2022-09-28 10:35:41 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: It's farking Temecula - even the rest of the craphole territory out that way farking hates Temecula


Came here to say this.

Temecula is a shiathole. A sprawling 90's/00's suburbia too far from any metro area to commute in under an hour, with literally nothing if interest to do or see, and filled with "fark you I got mine" types. A slice of Texas right in between San Diego and Riverside.
 
2022-09-28 10:42:08 AM  

LarryDan43: City level bans? Why not just take it a tiny bit further and allow individuals to decide if they want to ban abortion for themselves.


They're so close to getting it!
 
2022-09-28 10:55:34 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: It's farking Temecula - even the rest of the craphole territory out that way farking hates Temecula


Temecula is a place that you drive by when you're going someplace else. It's the California equivalent of a flyover state.
 
2022-09-28 11:06:53 AM  

Paddy: "Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

This must be it. It's just noon around here and but I think I'm done for the day.


The face I made at that quote literally caused me pain.
 
2022-09-28 11:13:48 AM  

Paddy: "Let the world know that Temecula stands for life from womb to tomb."

This must be it. It's just noon around here and but I think I'm done for the day.


When you're upset, you're upset all the way
From your first cigarette 'til your last dyin' day
 
2022-09-28 12:56:07 PM  
Temecula
The Taint of California™
 
2022-09-28 2:15:59 PM  
Half surprised this didn't happen in Redd[icaliz]ing.
 
2022-09-28 3:30:39 PM  

yohohogreengiant: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: It's farking Temecula - even the rest of the craphole territory out that way farking hates Temecula

It sucked less as Rancho San Diego.

Temeculitis is an indirect reason I haven't visited Cali in 20 years. I miss it a lot, but can't stand to see all that got paved over in senseless, short sighted ticky tacky development. You're in Cali, farking live in cities and go camping outside of them. farking suburbia / ruralia sprawl.


I think you meant Rancho California, but yeah back then it had a rather old west downtown and a bunch of nothing. Once they became Temecula they tried desperately to be Riverside County's Irvine.
 
2022-09-28 3:49:19 PM  
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2022-09-28 6:40:25 PM  

Aar1012: Sin_City_Superhero: Is that even something that can be done at the city/county level?  I would think that something of that nature would require the State Legislature to weigh-in, but I honestly don't know.

I gonna admit I didn't read the article but I could see it as banning providers in an area to effective ban abortion. It'd be like a town saying no pot shops despite the fact it's legal in the state.


Don't worry, the article says nothing either.  You have to go to a link from the article to read any sort of information.

And yes, it was about banning abortion providers within city limits.

And if a city wants to be an annoying dick to abortion providers, there ain't much the state can do about that.  In fact, there probably isn't anything they can do about that.

Although if the town is that against abortion, there probably isn't any providers there anyway... which makes all of this pointless.

No different from liberal cities not enforcing abortion bans (if you want to go in the other direction) or marijuana laws.

Not too much the state can do.

Especially in this case.  In the case of where you're not enforcing a law, you can pass a law like Florida that says the governor can swoop in and fire them (especially when you're a moron and openly declare it and prove your own case instead of just being quiet about it)... but that's not what's happening here.  They're not making it illegal, they're just making it defacto illegal because you can't get it anywhere.

/Course, the resolution passed, so it's not like any of this matters, I'm just speaking hypothetically if it did pass.
 
2022-09-28 6:43:31 PM  

jake3988: /Course, the resolution passed, so it's not like any of this matters, I'm just speaking hypothetically if it did pass.


Hrm, DIDN'T pass.  Gah.
 
2022-09-28 10:22:23 PM  
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