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(Chron)   Headline Opinion: You should read the most banned book in America, "Gender Queer," banned by 138 school districts in 32 states. After reading TFA, what do you think? Should you?   (chron.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Gender, Homosexuality, Gender identity, Human sexuality, Sexual intercourse, Human sexual behavior, Transgender, Maia Kobabe  
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265 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 27 Sep 2022 at 5:35 PM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-27 3:45:16 PM  
Any teenager or young adult in the throes of gender confusion or distress would surely find comfort and reassurance in Kobabe's illustrated journey. In an interview posted last spring on YouTube, Kobabe told Anthony Allen Ramos of GLAAD that having a book like this "would have probably taken like 10 years of confusion and uncertainty out of my life."

In the comments section under the interview, one person wrote, "I genuinely think that having this book as a middle schooler would have saved me years of feeling alone and isolated. I had access to plenty of books with explicit/graphic material from the library, but no books that were honest, earnest & relatable like this."


Making queer youth confused, uncertain, alone, and isolated is the entire goal of book banners.

They don't want anyone to understand that there's anything possible besides cis-het normativity and any young people feeling that way should just quietly repress it until they die.
 
2022-09-27 4:18:41 PM  
No. I don't want to read any of that sh*t because I'm having a hard time even reading the books I want to read. Just slower these days.

What I would love to do is join efforts to buy these books for libraries or clubs that will allow kids who want these books to have all the access they want because in America no motherf*cking Nazi is going to tell kids what they can and can't read while I am still alive.

Book banning is without a doubt one of the most anti-American things that any fake ass "patriot" can inflict upon their community. They are the ones who should be purged.
 
2022-09-27 5:45:19 PM  
But then I'd have to think critically about a nuanced subject. Ain't nobody got time for that.
 
2022-09-27 5:46:21 PM  
It doesn't sound like my kind of material (no offense).
 
2022-09-27 5:52:37 PM  
You should, especially if you know of no one like this in your social circles.  Or especially if you do, but don't have a clue what they struggle with daily.

Two of my kids fall into this category, and you wouldn't believe the hostility they have dealt with from the get go that started early on and just got worse over time.  Both of mine were just figuring things out when Drumpf got elected, and it's been a pretty scary ride ever since.
 
2022-09-27 6:02:52 PM  
I read it.  It was nice.  Kinda sweet.  An interesting perspective on someone's life and development.

I can see why someone who is dealing with the same issues would find it helpful in their life.  The only reason I can see to ban it from libraries is to deny that kind of help to people who would benefit from it, and that seems cruel.

I wish we had more people expressing themselves the way Maia Kobabe did in that book, and fewer expressing themselves by being angry and banning books.
 
2022-09-27 6:27:50 PM  

NewportBarGuy: No. I don't want to read any of that sh*t because I'm having a hard time even reading the books I want to read. Just slower these days.


What I would love to do is join efforts to buy these books for libraries or clubs that will allow kids who want these books to have all the access they want because in America no motherf*cking Nazi is going to tell kids what they can and can't read while I am still alive.


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2022-09-27 6:41:55 PM  

Another Government Employee: It doesn't sound like my kind of material (no offense).


It isn't mine either.  I'm not a fan of memoirs or even biographies.  When I read I want to leave the real world behind, not visit someone else's pain and real world struggles.  I see enough of that in my own life and the news.

I read this because I wanted to see what all the fuss is about, and I can tell you there is nothing for anyone to fuss at here.

This should be just more "teen lit" about life development and puberty that exposes teens and preteens to another person's lives and experiences of growing up, and the troubles they faced.  It should be sitting on the shelf with Judy Bloom and the Babysitter's club.

It is worth reading though.  It both helps the reader understand someone else's experiences and makes it clear exactly how farked up the people banning it are.
 
2022-09-27 7:08:46 PM  
I don't tell people what to read or what not to read.
 
2022-09-27 7:44:59 PM  
It is not bad, the artwork is quite basic, story feels real and I found it interesting for someone who has not experienced similar.

Unsurprisingly the claims of obscenity and pornography are vastly exaggerated
 
2022-09-27 8:06:54 PM  
I'm prochoice so I think you can handle making that decision for yourself.
 
2022-09-27 10:44:43 PM  
"I don't know about you, but it took me a while to become comfortable with the idea that people have the right to choose their own pronouns"

I don't know about you, but I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with the idea that anyone would give a shiat.

I know it's not quite the same, but for years my father-in-law was Dick. One day he said he preferred to be called Richard. It wasn't a big deal. It wasn't something anyone had to "be comfortable with." He was Richard. Sometimes he'd get called Dick just because habits are hard to change, but no one demanded since he was once Dick he had to forever be Dick.

If you have a problem with how someone else wants to be known or referred to, it's exactly that. Your problem. Keep it to yourself.
 
2022-09-28 6:07:22 AM  
I do not understand what people mean when they say they feel that they are  non-binary or trans.
I'm a woman that was always a tomboy, went into engineering for a career and has hobbies of fishing, camping and building things. I love power tools. I've had people tell me I have a man-brain. Whatever.  I don't have to make myself into a man to do man-type things.  I just do them.
I'm also a mom, a grandmother, take bubble baths and read the occasional romance novel.  I love to sew.
Just be yourself.  Every nuance of your personality doesn't need a name.
We are all simply people.
 
2022-09-28 6:25:45 AM  

Gramma: I do not understand what people mean when they say they feel that they are  non-binary or trans.
I'm a woman that was always a tomboy, went into engineering for a career and has hobbies of fishing, camping and building things. I love power tools. I've had people tell me I have a man-brain. Whatever.  I don't have to make myself into a man to do man-type things.  I just do them.
I'm also a mom, a grandmother, take bubble baths and read the occasional romance novel.  I love to sew.
Just be yourself.  Every nuance of your personality doesn't need a name.
We are all simply people.


Except the world isn't an ideal place and we are forced into boxes. I am a trans woman.  I have always been a woman, but my body forced me to be someone I am not. It isn't about what you enjoy doing or if you like cars or climb trees or anything like that. I have always known I was supposed to be a woman and a book like this when I was young would have helped me understand that. I have not read it, but from what I understand it could help you understand.
 
2022-09-28 6:39:01 AM  

Stepqhen: I have always been a woman


What does this mean?  Other than physical sex, what makes someone a woman or a man?  Not trying to be argumentative, I just don't understand the whole concept of gender. 
I'll give the book a shot, but so far everything I've read has had the 'feel like a woman (or man)' thing in it and that confuses me. I don't know what that means.
 
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