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(EuroNews)   In what is surely a coincidence and certainly nothing nefarious, both Nord Stream pipelines from Russia to Germany have mysteriously sprung leaks   (euronews.com) divider line
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2022-09-27 9:23:32 AM  
Amazing what you can do with an armor piercing round and a .357 weatherby magnum.
 
2022-09-27 9:32:50 AM  
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2022-09-27 9:33:13 AM  
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2022-09-27 9:42:25 AM  

vudukungfu: Amazing what you can do with an armor piercing round and a .357 weatherby magnum.


At the bottom of the Baltic Sea?
 
2022-09-27 9:42:53 AM  
"Clean natural gas", chuckled the archeologist in 3022.
Just joking.
There won't be any archeologists, or people.
 
2022-09-27 9:44:15 AM  
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2022-09-27 9:47:38 AM  
I blame Nessie.
 
2022-09-27 9:49:39 AM  

MattytheMouse: This Fark thread is brought to you by Nord VPN. They should've used Nord VPN to prevent these leaks!


Because I can absolutely trust a company from Panama that swearsies that it's totes not monitoring you!

/ it's really a choice of who is monitoring you at this point.

// it's really a...choice of evils....

/// that noise you heard was a bunch of us who saw the animated Return of the King from the 80's shifting.
 
2022-09-27 9:54:22 AM  
Nord Stream Sees Unprecedented Damage to Gas Pipeline to Germany
Youtube N8vmzudH4fA
 
2022-09-27 9:56:58 AM  
russians committing eco-terrorism ? not like they would shell nuclear power plants or something
 
2022-09-27 9:57:19 AM  
The only country I wouldn't suspect is Germany. US, Ukraine, Russia high on the suspect list.
 
2022-09-27 9:58:13 AM  
So the Russians running their subs on natural gas has just one flaws.  No filling stations where they need them, and local customs back in Kazakstan of tapping the line are a bummer.  Just too many narcs, man.
 
2022-09-27 10:01:44 AM  

kindms: russians committing eco-terrorism ? not like they would shell nuclear power plants or something


If the pipelines had holes drilled in to them underwater somehow... I don't think that'd be the Russians. The Russians control the pipeline! They can just shut it off, and have done that at least once already.

That said, their decision making skills have been proven lately to be............. shiat. So who knows? They could also be stupid enough, but I'll keep an open mind.
 
2022-09-27 10:02:38 AM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: The only country I wouldn't suspect is Germany. US, Ukraine, Russia high on the suspect list.


This sorta locks in the Germans, eh?
 
2022-09-27 10:03:32 AM  
What a farting ocean might look like:
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2022-09-27 10:06:09 AM  

Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image image 850x514]


Got a match?
 
2022-09-27 10:06:43 AM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: The only country I wouldn't suspect is Germany.


I dunno.

The German intelligence agencies are possibly a bit concerned at how effective the Russian propaganda is on the right wing idiots in Germany, who had been calling for an of supplying weapons to Ukraine and for both nordstream pipelines to be operated at full supply.

With the nord stream pipelines asploded, the gas lines through Ukraine will need to carry more....which means bringing the war to an end sooner, by supplying more weapons to Ukraine and putting more pressure on Russia is a better strategy than leaving the Russian invasion to grind on for years.
 
2022-09-27 10:09:59 AM  

mongbiohazard: kindms: russians committing eco-terrorism ? not like they would shell nuclear power plants or something

If the pipelines had holes drilled in to them underwater somehow... I don't think that'd be the Russians. The Russians control the pipeline! They can just shut it off, and have done that at least once already.


Nord Stream 2 was never put to use, and Nord Stream 1 has been closed "for maintenance" since August. The gas escaping now was just there to maintain pressure.
 
2022-09-27 10:10:21 AM  

Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]


It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.
 
2022-09-27 10:13:19 AM  

Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.


They're already very concerned about navigation hazard, doubtful they'd want to make that worse.
 
2022-09-27 10:13:21 AM  
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/oblig.
 
2022-09-27 10:13:21 AM  
Danack:
With the nord stream pipelines asploded, the gas lines through Ukraine will need to carry more....

No, all the Nord Stream pipes have been closed since August, so this doesn't make much difference.
 
2022-09-27 10:18:10 AM  

jso2897: "Clean natural gas", chuckled the archeologist in 3022.
Just joking.
There won't be any archeologists, or people.


In a thousand years?

Yeah, there probably will. Assuming there's still an earth, there will be people on it. It isn't that long a time.
 
2022-09-27 10:29:22 AM  

vudukungfu: Amazing what you can do with an armor piercing round and a .357 weatherby magnum.


Underwater?
 
2022-09-27 10:31:11 AM  

Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.


It would also
* serve as a warning for small ships to stay away
* prevent some schmuck from motoring through the gas cloud and getting all blowed up
 
2022-09-27 10:31:42 AM  

qorkfiend: Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.

They're already very concerned about navigation hazard, doubtful they'd want to make that worse.


I'd rather see a fireball and steer clear than drive THROUGH a cloud of flammable gas.
 
2022-09-27 10:34:47 AM  

MattytheMouse: This Fark thread is brought to you by Nord VPN. They should've used Nord VPN to prevent these leaks!


I hear Netflix is starting to make people turn off their VPN in order to watch anything. You know, that whole "watch other countries' streaming services" thing that the VPN companies keep using as a major selling point? Netflix ain't having it anymore.

/off topic
//womp womp
 
2022-09-27 10:37:09 AM  

SpectroBoy: qorkfiend: Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.

They're already very concerned about navigation hazard, doubtful they'd want to make that worse.

I'd rather see a fireball and steer clear than drive THROUGH a cloud of flammable gas.


It's pretty windy on the Baltic, the gas is going to disperse quickly, so I doubt there's an actual cloud.
 
2022-09-27 10:38:51 AM  

kindms: russians committing eco-terrorism ? not like they would shell nuclear power plants or something


Its harmless methan gas.
 
2022-09-27 10:42:50 AM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: The only country I wouldn't suspect is Germany. US, Ukraine, Russia high on the suspect list.


I don't think the US would do it. The US government has been pretty hands off with what could be viewed as a direct attack against Russia. For an underwater pipeline, I would be more suspicious of Russia, since it would take a bit of somewhat advanced tech to get there to do the damage.
Of course, just dragging an anchor would probably do the trick, but I would think that would have been easily traced back to the offending ship.
 
2022-09-27 10:43:10 AM  

Dansker: No, all the Nord Stream pipes have been closed since August, so this doesn't make much difference.


That was blackmail by Russia. "While the war goes on, the pipeline stayed closed, so stop supplying weapons to Ukraine."

As the pipelines are now blown up (allegedly in multiple places), it removes the 'carrot' from the Russian negotiating position.
 
2022-09-27 10:43:49 AM  
The Euronews video confuses the Dutch and the Danish 0:45 minutes in their video.

I guess it is really confusing for everyone, except perhaps the Danes and the Dutch. :P
 
2022-09-27 10:45:18 AM  

vlakorados: MattytheMouse: This Fark thread is brought to you by Nord VPN. They should've used Nord VPN to prevent these leaks!

I hear Netflix is starting to make people turn off their VPN in order to watch anything. You know, that whole "watch other countries' streaming services" thing that the VPN companies keep using as a major selling point? Netflix ain't having it anymore.

/off topic
//womp womp


Log into Netflix, then turn on your VPN.
Hit refresh.
Watch other countries content.
 
2022-09-27 10:45:58 AM  

vlakorados: MattytheMouse: This Fark thread is brought to you by Nord VPN. They should've used Nord VPN to prevent these leaks!

I hear Netflix is starting to make people turn off their VPN in order to watch anything. You know, that whole "watch other countries' streaming services" thing that the VPN companies keep using as a major selling point? Netflix ain't having it anymore.

/off topic
//womp womp


netflix still doing that?  i though they just limited what you can see based on your address on file.
 
2022-09-27 10:46:30 AM  

SpectroBoy: qorkfiend: Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.

They're already very concerned about navigation hazard, doubtful they'd want to make that worse.

I'd rather see a fireball and steer clear than drive THROUGH a cloud of flammable gas.


Telling people to avoid the cloud of flammable gas is why they've announced the navigation hazard...
 
2022-09-27 10:54:16 AM  

Danack: Dansker: No, all the Nord Stream pipes have been closed since August, so this doesn't make much difference.

That was blackmail by Russia. "While the war goes on, the pipeline stayed closed, so stop supplying weapons to Ukraine."

As the pipelines are now blown up (allegedly in multiple places), it removes the 'carrot' from the Russian negotiating position.


Yeah, but I don't think anyone really expected the pipes the be reopened until the war is over anyway, so again, it doesn't make a difference now.
Meanwhile, the Baltic Pipe, connecting Poland via Denmark with Norwegian gas fields was inaugurated today. Coincidence?!
Well, probably, yeah, unless you suspect the Norwegians of sabotaging Nord Stream. But guilty or not, they may be able to pick up some of the slack in gas deliveries, instead of increasing the volume through Ukraine from Russia.
 
2022-09-27 10:56:58 AM  

Dansker: SpectroBoy: qorkfiend: Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.

They're already very concerned about navigation hazard, doubtful they'd want to make that worse.

I'd rather see a fireball and steer clear than drive THROUGH a cloud of flammable gas.

It's pretty windy on the Baltic, the gas is going to disperse quickly, so I doubt there's an actual cloud.



Fair point.

But I still picture "Hey Zeke! Look at them bubbles! Let's go take a look! "
 
2022-09-27 10:57:48 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I would be more suspicious of Russia, since it would take a bit of somewhat advanced tech to get there to do the damage.


Russia wants the revenue from selling the gas.
I kinda doubt they did it. At least not on purpose.
 
2022-09-27 11:00:05 AM  
If the Russians built the pipeline, I wouldn't rule out shoddy design.
 
2022-09-27 11:02:02 AM  

Dansker: Danack: Dansker: No, all the Nord Stream pipes have been closed since August, so this doesn't make much difference.

That was blackmail by Russia. "While the war goes on, the pipeline stayed closed, so stop supplying weapons to Ukraine."

As the pipelines are now blown up (allegedly in multiple places), it removes the 'carrot' from the Russian negotiating position.

Yeah, but I don't think anyone really expected the pipes the be reopened until the war is over anyway, so again, it doesn't make a difference now.
Meanwhile, the Baltic Pipe, connecting Poland via Denmark with Norwegian gas fields was inaugurated today. Coincidence?!
Well, probably, yeah, unless you suspect the Norwegians of sabotaging Nord Stream. But guilty or not, they may be able to pick up some of the slack in gas deliveries, instead of increasing the volume through Ukraine from Russia.


The pipeline wouldn't be reopened until the war was over or Germany caved to Russia because the winter got to be too much. Now, Germany may no longer have that option.
 
2022-09-27 11:04:14 AM  

SpectroBoy: Dansker: SpectroBoy: qorkfiend: Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.

They're already very concerned about navigation hazard, doubtful they'd want to make that worse.

I'd rather see a fireball and steer clear than drive THROUGH a cloud of flammable gas.

It's pretty windy on the Baltic, the gas is going to disperse quickly, so I doubt there's an actual cloud.


Fair point.

But I still picture "Hey Zeke! Look at them bubbles! Let's go take a look! "


I wonder how much the gas reduces the water's bouyancy. Maybe the Zeke problem would solve itself. Or maybe he'll try to light the ocean farts on fire, in which case we all get what we want.
 
2022-09-27 11:06:33 AM  
 
2022-09-27 11:09:21 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: kindms: russians committing eco-terrorism ? not like they would shell nuclear power plants or something

Its harmless methan gas.


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2022-09-27 11:11:29 AM  

Dansker: SpectroBoy: Dansker: SpectroBoy: qorkfiend: Danack: Dansker: What a farting ocean might look like:[Fark user image 850x514]

It'd probably be a good idea (though maybe a bit late) to set fire to that. CO2 is less green-house-gassy than methane is.

Plus it would look cool.

They're already very concerned about navigation hazard, doubtful they'd want to make that worse.

I'd rather see a fireball and steer clear than drive THROUGH a cloud of flammable gas.

It's pretty windy on the Baltic, the gas is going to disperse quickly, so I doubt there's an actual cloud.


Fair point.

But I still picture "Hey Zeke! Look at them bubbles! Let's go take a look! "

I wonder how much the gas reduces the water's bouyancy. Maybe the Zeke problem would solve itself. Or maybe he'll try to light the ocean farts on fire, in which case we all get what we want.



Yeah, it could also sink ships (maybe)
 
2022-09-27 11:13:04 AM  

Don't Lag Me Bro: The only country I wouldn't suspect is Germany. US, Ukraine, Russia high on the suspect list.


If they had the capability, I would say china. Don't think they do though. They will be left as one of the only buyers of Russian gas and get to dictate the prices. The more that Russia screws itself over the more Russian assets and resources they can pick up at a discount. Plus they just want the war to stop given the damage it is doing economically.
 
2022-09-27 11:34:57 AM  
Two explosions were registered in the area last night by seismic stations in both Sweden and Denmark, according to Swedish TV: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/svt-avslojar-tva-explosioner-intill-nord-stream

And the Danish Prime Minister has informed all the leaders of the other parties in the Danish Parliament about something regarding this, but nobody wants to say what they've told.
 
2022-09-27 11:45:28 AM  

Dansker: Two explosions were registered in the area last night


... or, more accurately, explosions were registered at 2:03 am and 7:04 pm on Monday, with the first reports of the leaks coming in from passing ships at 1:52 pm and 8:41 pm.
 
2022-09-27 11:51:15 AM  

SpectroBoy: Russia wants the revenue from selling the gas.
I kinda doubt they did it. At least not on purpose.


They weren't selling any gas and they desperately need an excuse for their actions in the mobilization.

They did it themselves, and they're going to use it to say that all of NATO is attacking Russia.
 
2022-09-27 11:52:52 AM  

groverpm: Ketchuponsteak: kindms: russians committing eco-terrorism ? not like they would shell nuclear power plants or something

Its harmless methan gas.

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Its spelled methane.

But other than that, yeah, its harmless.
 
2022-09-27 11:54:37 AM  

vlakorados: MattytheMouse: This Fark thread is brought to you by Nord VPN. They should've used Nord VPN to prevent these leaks!

I hear Netflix is starting to make people turn off their VPN in order to watch anything. You know, that whole "watch other countries' streaming services" thing that the VPN companies keep using as a major selling point? Netflix ain't having it anymore.

/off topic
//womp womp


The VPNs keep switching IPs, so Netflix can't reliable do that.

Anyways, that's not the selling point of VPNs. I think everyone knows why people use them.
 
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