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(Twitter)   Kari Lake (R-Eally) is now ready to wear the epithets of "fascist" and "racist" proudly as evidence she's working for the people. Yes, really   (twitter.com) divider line
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4388 clicks; posted to Politics » on 27 Sep 2022 at 3:10 AM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-26 10:50:13 PM  
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2022-09-27 12:08:56 AM  
"Don't stick your dictator in crazy."

-Peter Nevaro
 
2022-09-27 12:45:03 AM  
Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists. She's spitting on their graves.
 
2022-09-27 3:12:14 AM  
How backwards can you get?
 
2022-09-27 3:13:39 AM  

Alphax: How backwards can you get?


Republican.
 
2022-09-27 3:15:24 AM  
May both of them get the mussolini treatment.
 
2022-09-27 3:15:26 AM  
She has no idea what those words mean does she?
 
2022-09-27 3:15:29 AM  
Ah yes, the ole "I must be doing something right" defense against any and all criticism.

No, it means you're just an asshole and people hate you. You're not doing anything right.
 
2022-09-27 3:18:54 AM  
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Same a regular Trek but with 200% more authoritarians.
 
2022-09-27 3:20:35 AM  

Archie Goodwin: She has no idea what those words mean does she?


For it to make sense, she'd have to not consider non-whites as people and/or to be represented, so... maybe?
 
2022-09-27 3:24:45 AM  
This has been the plan all along.

Call someone a fascist on 2010?
"That word has lost all meaning"

No, it hasn't.

Now it's, "fine, I'm a fascist and that's fine".

No, it's not.
 
2022-09-27 3:26:35 AM  

Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.


How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.
 
2022-09-27 3:28:03 AM  

Klyukva: Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.

How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.


Oh and don't forget what they thought about immigration from non-white countries. That made them super fascist.
 
2022-09-27 3:29:32 AM  
This is pure insanity.
 
2022-09-27 3:30:15 AM  

Slaxl: This has been the plan all along.

Call someone a fascist on 2010?
"That word has lost all meaning"

No, it hasn't.

Now it's, "fine, I'm a fascist and that's fine".

No, it's not.


There was a certain YouTube reactor looking at the Xandria video I posted a couple of times.

'Well, if you call someone a fascist, doesn't that mean you're being fascist?'

No, because words have meanings.  Don't talk about 'both sides' with fascism.
 
2022-09-27 3:31:29 AM  
The "people of your country" is a dog whistle.
 
2022-09-27 3:32:53 AM  
Was watching TV the other day (well, it was on in the bar), and apparently Mark Kelly is going to something something The Transgender Agenda!!!!!

Isn't the agenda to, like, just live and not get f*cked with?  Oooooh.  Scawwwy!
 
2022-09-27 3:33:41 AM  

rosekolodny: Was watching TV the other day (well, it was on in the bar), and apparently Mark Kelly is going to something something The Transgender Agenda!!!!!

Isn't the agenda to, like, just live and not get f*cked with?  Oooooh.  Scawwwy!


They don't want to tap their feet in a bathroom stall and get a surprise they weren't ready for.
 
2022-09-27 3:34:43 AM  

Klyukva: Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.

How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.


Therefore... what, exactly?

My grandpa fought fascists.  But it doesn't count because reasons?

NAH.  He killed nazis and fascists.  I'm proud of him for that if nothing else.
 
2022-09-27 3:36:57 AM  

Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists. She's spitting on their graves.


But far more Americans voted for fascists. So who counts?
 
2022-09-27 3:37:51 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: rosekolodny: Was watching TV the other day (well, it was on in the bar), and apparently Mark Kelly is going to something something The Transgender Agenda!!!!!

Isn't the agenda to, like, just live and not get f*cked with?  Oooooh.  Scawwwy!

They don't want to tap their feet in a bathroom stall and get a surprise they weren't ready for.


You're probably right.  The faster we can get everyone out of the closet living their lives, the quicker we can get rid of republicans doing weird illicit bathroom sex.

Just get a partner in the flavor you prefer and we can get on with business, congressman.
 
2022-09-27 3:39:24 AM  

rosekolodny: Therefore... what, exactly?


If they were also fascists that undermines the pious pablum about how they died fighting fascism.
 
2022-09-27 3:42:47 AM  

Klyukva: Klyukva: Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.

How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.

Oh and don't forget what they thought about immigration from non-white countries. That made them super fascist.


I see you also don't know what fascism is.  Or are pretending you don't.
 
2022-09-27 3:42:58 AM  

Klyukva: rosekolodny: Therefore... what, exactly?

If they were also fascists that undermines the pious pablum about how they died fighting fascism.


They were sometimes racists and bigots.  They killed fascists.
 
2022-09-27 3:42:59 AM  
Bless her little stupid heart, she thinks people are just calling others "fascists" and "racists" because they just don't like them. Imagine her shock when Italians start a state-sanctioned cleansing of "undesirables" from their nation.
 
2022-09-27 3:43:51 AM  
Die fascist scum. Take your racist shiat somewhere else, cowards.
 
2022-09-27 3:44:15 AM  
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2022-09-27 3:44:40 AM  

Alphax: Klyukva: Klyukva: Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.

How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.

Oh and don't forget what they thought about immigration from non-white countries. That made them super fascist.

I see you also don't know what fascism is.  Or are pretending you don't.


I already have him farkied as being a dick about gay and trans rights.

Not surprised he doesn't understand words.
 
2022-09-27 3:48:57 AM  
Mussolini is one of the good guys now.
 
2022-09-27 3:49:59 AM  
Aren't the less-insane European nations having a big meeting soon where one of the items on the agenda is what to do about Hungary and some of the other fascist-leaning countries? I guess they can add Italy to the list of those who might be trading aid $ and trade pacts for sanctions.

/supposedly Great Britain has been invited to attend because they apparently want to create some formal sort of union with the stronger European nations
 
2022-09-27 3:50:18 AM  
Good to see Tucker's still doing 'Tucker Face'.
 
2022-09-27 4:01:26 AM  

Klyukva: Klyukva: Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.

How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.

Oh and don't forget what they thought about immigration from non-white countries. That made them super fascist.


I'll take your bait, princess, because you're too far away to shoot.

Fascism isn't just what any one person "thinks" about any given issue at a particular time. And it isn't comparing today against the past.

Fascism is an immediate mindset that's only relevant in context with the current sociopolitical climate. And there are gradations of fascism as there are any other political movement.

It's fair to say that the soldiers who fought in WWII were as violently anti-pinko as they were anti-Nazi; but that is because MODERN concepts of homophobia do not translate back to 1945. There was greater secrecy and hence more ignorance.

As for transgenderism, it wasn't even a thing back then. The entire concept of a sex change wouldn't be invented until the 60s. Drag and transvestism were the best anyone could manage.

Your "mistake" or intentional sealioning is assuming that "libz think anything they don't like is fascist so anyone in the past must have been fascist" or that you can put an equals sign between any given negative trait and fascism.

There are some sloppy commenters and wannabe pundits who do that, of course; but they are as wrong as you are. Homophobia does not by itself equal fascism. Being anti abortion or immigration alone does not equal fascism. Being pro cop does not equal fascism.

Mix them all together and add a dollop of worship of a figurehead, and now you're looking at proto fascism. I hope that clarifies for you. Probably not, but maybe it will for others.
 
2022-09-27 4:06:55 AM  

Alphax: Klyukva: Klyukva: Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.

How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.

Oh and don't forget what they thought about immigration from non-white countries. That made them super fascist.

I see you also don't know what fascism is.  Or are pretending you don't.


I don't understand people who say things like "Republicans are fascists" using one definition of fascism but use a different definition in every other context. Surely they meant what they said.
 
2022-09-27 4:07:12 AM  
Fascist isn't a slur you dumbfark, it's a political label which happens to be accurate here. The only reason her party isn't called the Fascist Party of Italy is because the Fascist Party is still banned in Italy, so they had to call it something else from 1945 onward.

And fascism was bad. Sometimes when people are calling you a bad name, though, it's because you're doing bad things.
 
2022-09-27 4:08:51 AM  

Klyukva: Alphax: Klyukva: Klyukva: Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists.

How many of those Americans accepted the validity of transsexuals? How many of them approved of interracial marriage? How many of them thought that gun ownership should be banned? Sure seems like they were fascists too.

Oh and don't forget what they thought about immigration from non-white countries. That made them super fascist.

I see you also don't know what fascism is.  Or are pretending you don't.

I don't understand people who say things like "Republicans are fascists" using one definition of fascism but use a different definition in every other context. Surely they meant what they said.


I don't believe you.
 
2022-09-27 4:11:08 AM  

Gyrfalcon: As for transgenderism, it wasn't even a thing back then. The entire concept of a sex change wouldn't be invented until the 60s.


Not entirely true, but the Nazis did a pretty good job erasing them, to the point that much of the world forgot.
 
2022-09-27 4:12:37 AM  

NobleHam: Fascist isn't a slur you dumbfark, it's a political label which happens to be accurate here. The only reason her party isn't called the Fascist Party of Italy is because the Fascist Party is still banned in Italy, so they had to call it something else from 1945 onward.

And fascism was bad. Sometimes when people are calling you a bad name, though, it's because you're doing bad things.


Problem: imagine you believe the people calling you the bad names are literally baby-killing spawn of Satan.
 
2022-09-27 4:14:57 AM  
She should go back to being a talk show host

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2022-09-27 4:15:28 AM  

qorkfiend: NobleHam: Fascist isn't a slur you dumbfark, it's a political label which happens to be accurate here. The only reason her party isn't called the Fascist Party of Italy is because the Fascist Party is still banned in Italy, so they had to call it something else from 1945 onward.

And fascism was bad. Sometimes when people are calling you a bad name, though, it's because you're doing bad things.

Problem: imagine you believe the people calling you the bad names are literally baby-killing spawn of Satan.


They still might be right. I imagine they'd want to hurt me, but the most hurtful things they could say would also be true. Bullshiat is easy to shrug off.
 
2022-09-27 4:16:30 AM  

NobleHam: qorkfiend: NobleHam: Fascist isn't a slur you dumbfark, it's a political label which happens to be accurate here. The only reason her party isn't called the Fascist Party of Italy is because the Fascist Party is still banned in Italy, so they had to call it something else from 1945 onward.

And fascism was bad. Sometimes when people are calling you a bad name, though, it's because you're doing bad things.

Problem: imagine you believe the people calling you the bad names are literally baby-killing spawn of Satan.

They still might be right. I imagine they'd want to hurt me, but the most hurtful things they could say would also be true. Bullshiat is easy to shrug off.


No, at no point do you believe the baby-killing spawn of Satan could possibly be correct. They're baby-killing spawn of Satan.
 
2022-09-27 4:16:59 AM  

NobleHam: Gyrfalcon: As for transgenderism, it wasn't even a thing back then. The entire concept of a sex change wouldn't be invented until the 60s.

Not entirely true, but the Nazis did a pretty good job erasing them, to the point that much of the world forgot.


NobleHam is correct about it existing and the Nazis suppressing it although it may be an exaggeration to say much of the world forgot.

https://timeline.com/how-the-nazis-derailed-the-medical-advances-around-sexual-reassignment-surgery-eb8d4f21c463

By the early 1930s, people came from around the world to undergo reassignment surgery in Berlin. Then Adolf Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany in January 1931. Two years later, his brownshirts broke into Hirschfeld's institute and burned his journals and research. When Hirschfeld was out of Germany on tour, the Nazi student group marched on the Institute. Over 20,000 books were set aflame, as well as medical diagrams and photographs crucial to understanding sex reassignment surgery. Hirschfeld and his colleagues were Jewish, but it wasn't just that. Hitler also publicly raged against the "vice" of homosexuality and the "degenerate" lives of transsexuals.
 
2022-09-27 4:18:10 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: She should go back to being a talk show host

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Eh.  She was a newscaster.

Now she's pouring gas on a truly bizarre social conflagration.
 
2022-09-27 4:18:31 AM  

NobleHam: Gyrfalcon: As for transgenderism, it wasn't even a thing back then. The entire concept of a sex change wouldn't be invented until the 60s.

Not entirely true, but the Nazis did a pretty good job erasing them, to the point that much of the world forgot.


Well, but it certainly wasn't how we know it today. Not only was it rare, it was mostly lethal until hormones and techniques were better understood.

Perhaps a better way to describe it is that it wouldn't have been part of the social climate.
 
2022-09-27 4:19:24 AM  

Archie Goodwin: She has no idea what those words mean does she?


you can be ignorant of the meanings of fascism and racism yet perfectly embody them
and here's a good example of it.
 
2022-09-27 4:19:25 AM  

Klyukva: NobleHam: Gyrfalcon: As for transgenderism, it wasn't even a thing back then. The entire concept of a sex change wouldn't be invented until the 60s.

Not entirely true, but the Nazis did a pretty good job erasing them, to the point that much of the world forgot.

NobleHam is correct about it existing and the Nazis suppressing it although it may be an exaggeration to say much of the world forgot.

https://timeline.com/how-the-nazis-derailed-the-medical-advances-around-sexual-reassignment-surgery-eb8d4f21c463

By the early 1930s, people came from around the world to undergo reassignment surgery in Berlin. Then Adolf Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany in January 1931. Two years later, his brownshirts broke into Hirschfeld's institute and burned his journals and research. When Hirschfeld was out of Germany on tour, the Nazi student group marched on the Institute. Over 20,000 books were set aflame, as well as medical diagrams and photographs crucial to understanding sex reassignment surgery. Hirschfeld and his colleagues were Jewish, but it wasn't just that. Hitler also publicly raged against the "vice" of homosexuality and the "degenerate" lives of transsexuals.


So when you attack the rights of gays and transgender people, you are acting like Hitler.  Got it.
 
2022-09-27 4:20:00 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Klyukva:


As for transgenderism, it wasn't even a thing back then. The entire concept of a sex change wouldn't be invented until the 60s. Drag and transvestism were the best anyone could manage.


This is inaccurate. The first gender reassignment surgeries that we know of were done in the 1920s. Hormonal treatment was in its early stages then as well. One of the centers of research was the Hirschfeld institute in Berlin - guess who burned their books and papers?
 
2022-09-27 4:24:31 AM  
 
2022-09-27 4:28:48 AM  
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2022-09-27 4:42:16 AM  

grimnir: Gyrfalcon: Klyukva:


As for transgenderism, it wasn't even a thing back then. The entire concept of a sex change wouldn't be invented until the 60s. Drag and transvestism were the best anyone could manage.

This is inaccurate. The first gender reassignment surgeries that we know of were done in the 1920s. Hormonal treatment was in its early stages then as well. One of the centers of research was the Hirschfeld institute in Berlin - guess who burned their books and papers?


Obama?
 
2022-09-27 4:52:03 AM  

Circusdog320: Thousands of Americans fought and died fighting and overcoming fascists. She's spitting on their graves.


It is extremely unsettling to see it popping up all over the world and at home. There are a lot of wins on the side of sanity, thankfully, offsetting some of it.
 
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