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(MSN)   "If I can help even one person turn away from this fringe conspiracy culture or recognize Trump for the un-American grifter that he is, it would make everything worth it," Riggleman wrote. "I'd be especially happy if that one person was my mom"   (msn.com) divider line
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2022-09-26 11:48:17 PM  
It's a cult
 
2022-09-26 11:48:34 PM  
🤦🏻‍♂
 
2022-09-26 11:49:18 PM  
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She's not your mom anymore.
 
2022-09-26 11:53:17 PM  
'Murica.
 
2022-09-26 11:56:00 PM  
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2022-09-26 11:56:09 PM  
Oof.
 
2022-09-26 11:56:17 PM  
Yet another 'forthcoming book' from someone who should have opened his farking mouth when it was going down, instead of waiting for the dollars to flow in his direction. If only all of these tell-all authors had been forthcoming a few years ago...
 
2022-09-27 12:01:28 AM  
Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.
 
2022-09-27 12:02:22 AM  

Bennett the Mad: Yet another 'forthcoming book' from someone who should have opened his farking mouth when it was going down, instead of waiting for the dollars to flow in his direction. If only all of these tell-all authors had been forthcoming a few years ago...


I don't think you know enough about this guy if you're making that accusation about him.  He sponsored the anti-Qanon house legislation back in 2020, he's been talking about practically nothing else for years.
 
2022-09-27 12:05:16 AM  

4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.


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2022-09-27 12:05:30 AM  

4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.


Not to worry.  Once the elections come without Biden canceling them your mother will realize that she was mistaken and recognize the error in her thinking.
 
2022-09-27 12:06:13 AM  

WickerNipple: Bennett the Mad: Yet another 'forthcoming book' from someone who should have opened his farking mouth when it was going down, instead of waiting for the dollars to flow in his direction. If only all of these tell-all authors had been forthcoming a few years ago...

I don't think you know enough about this guy if you're making that accusation about him.  He sponsored the anti-Qanon house legislation back in 2020, he's been talking about practically nothing else for years.


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2022-09-27 12:06:39 AM  

Dimensio: 4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.

Not to worry.  Once the elections come without Biden canceling them your mother will realize that she was mistaken and recognize the error in her thinking.


Hannity will have given them the next act of the play by then.
 
2022-09-27 12:08:11 AM  

Bennett the Mad: Yet another 'forthcoming book' from someone who should have opened his farking mouth when it was going down, instead of waiting for the dollars to flow in his direction. If only all of these tell-all authors had been forthcoming a few years ago...


If only there had ever been any indication that trump was anything other than a gleaming paragon of virtue before wrigglyman shared his observations, we could, as one unified American voice, decried and denied him.
 
2022-09-27 12:10:15 AM  

Bennett the Mad: Yet another 'forthcoming book' from someone who should have opened his farking mouth when it was going down, instead of waiting for the dollars to flow in his direction. If only all of these tell-all authors had been forthcoming a few years ago...


He did
 
2022-09-27 12:10:29 AM  

4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.


"They" are relentless and coordinated. I can see the same posterized talking points coming out almost simultaneously on people's Facebook posts. There is just enough grounded in reality to make "doing your own research" and "studying it out" lead to these talking points.
 
2022-09-27 12:15:24 AM  
He should smother this mom. With his balls. "Bernie" tattooed on the right one, "Bro" on the left.
 
2022-09-27 12:16:03 AM  
They think they're right and we are wrong.

They think they're smart and we're dumb.

So use that against them

You know your mother. You can manipulate her. You've done it before.

You just have to figure out a way for HER to come to the conclusion that Trump is who he really is.

You can sit there and throw out facts, but that doesn't matter. You can't reason someone out of an unreasonable position you didn't plant in them. You have to be psychological about it.
 
2022-09-27 12:18:31 AM  
hey everybody, another GOP stooge turned on trump. let's all suck his dick
 
2022-09-27 12:21:20 AM  
Pee on her grave.
Just don't poop on it, that'll get you caught apparently.
 
2022-09-27 12:22:05 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Pee on her grave.
Just don't poop on it, that'll get you caught apparently.


Even peeing is a risk
 
2022-09-27 12:23:54 AM  

Thoreny: MurphyMurphy: Pee on her grave.
Just don't poop on it, that'll get you caught apparently.

Even peeing is a risk


i wonder how far of a drive that guy made to do that?  Petrol isn't cheap.  Maybe the cemetery was in walking distance
 
2022-09-27 12:24:15 AM  

Thoreny: MurphyMurphy: Pee on her grave.
Just don't poop on it, that'll get you caught apparently.

Even peeing is a risk


Please warn people if you're going to link to the New York Post.
 
2022-09-27 12:25:44 AM  
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2022-09-27 12:27:06 AM  
My vegan hare krishna brother has been posting 'the holocaust is fake' memes from white supremacist sites since 2010.

I don't know WTF is going on anymore, but if you are stupid, I don't associate with you anymore...well I call him on his birthday, but other than that no contact!
 
2022-09-27 12:27:13 AM  
There were reports of captured Russian conscripts in Ukraine calling home to tell their parents that they're okay, and getting back only "You can't be in Ukraine. Putin said they weren't sending any conscripts to Ukraine."

The parents literally believe Putin over their own children, who are actually physically there.
 
2022-09-27 12:29:46 AM  

Dimensio: 4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.

Not to worry.  Once the elections come without Biden canceling them your mother will realize that she was mistaken and recognize the error in her thinking.


not!

/is it the 80's again?
 
2022-09-27 12:30:39 AM  
If your mind was open to reason and introspection, you would have already left the reality bubble years ago.

It takes humility and self-reflection to swallow your pride and admit that you got duped... ever noticed how everybody in the trump cult is completely absent of those two qualities? This is not a coincidence.
 
2022-09-27 12:32:17 AM  

4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.


I'm sorry you're dealing with that.  We have a nephew that was either always a sheep or had some type of metal collapse that got him the point of becoming a sandy hook truther and of course he believes that lardass won the last election.  He's not welcome in our house but of course he's not immediate family so tbh i have no problem not ever seeing or talking to him again,but with a parent i am sure that's painful.

Your mother will either have some kind of an epiphany and wake up to the truth or she won't,they don't listen to people outside of the cult information bubble.  hopefully you have good friends and siblings that are supportive.
 
2022-09-27 12:32:54 AM  

MrSplifferton: My vegan hare krishna brother has been posting 'the holocaust is fake' memes from white supremacist sites since 2010.

I don't know WTF is going on anymore, but if you are stupid, I don't associate with you anymore...well I call him on his birthday, but other than that no contact!


I'll never understand "fake holocaust" people.  It is basically an accusation that an ancient, diabolical, and unmatched in power group of global manipulators and dominators needed to invent a massive fake media campaign to garner sympathy from the global public.
 
2022-09-27 12:33:43 AM  

Sim Tree: There were reports of captured Russian conscripts in Ukraine calling home to tell their parents that they're okay, and getting back only "You can't be in Ukraine. Putin said they weren't sending any conscripts to Ukraine."

The parents literally believe Putin over their own children, who are actually physically there.


A good portion of them, yes.

But how many of them are doing it because they know they're being listened to and have to say it to protect themselves?

THe older folks who lived in the USSR are accustomed to always following what they are being told no matter what kind of reality is present.
 
2022-09-27 12:33:47 AM  
See, this is why you don't baptise your children until you're sure you want them in Heaven with you for eternity. If you rush to baptise a kid right away, God might favour him with all kinds of privileges, and what if he turns out to be annoying? God makes mistakes, so prudent parents withhold God's love until kids earn it.
 
2022-09-27 12:34:34 AM  

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I feel like Riggleman has redeemed himself somewhat since then. He officiated a gay marriage, so he seems to have come around to believing that Love is Real.
 
2022-09-27 12:36:27 AM  

PineappleOnPizza: MrSplifferton: My vegan hare krishna brother has been posting 'the holocaust is fake' memes from white supremacist sites since 2010.

I don't know WTF is going on anymore, but if you are stupid, I don't associate with you anymore...well I call him on his birthday, but other than that no contact!

I'll never understand "fake holocaust" people.  It is basically an accusation that an ancient, diabolical, and unmatched in power group of global manipulators and dominators needed to invent a massive fake media campaign to garner sympathy from the global public.


Once they latch onto one conspiracy they accept the others, my brother started with 9/11 conspiracies and just went of the deep end from there.
 
2022-09-27 12:36:32 AM  
He'd do much better cutting ties with his mom completely. Don't look back. - The only thing that makes me mad is that if my grandfather was alive he'd be in the cult too. I'm glad he died before Trump.
 
2022-09-27 12:38:07 AM  
An awful lot of programming went into turning these heads to MAGA, from Hannity, Limbach, Beck and others repeated over and over and over, some back from before Obama was president.   Don't expect them to turn around after one argument, it's going to take a while, but still worth trying.
 
2022-09-27 12:38:12 AM  

PineappleOnPizza: MrSplifferton: My vegan hare krishna brother has been posting 'the holocaust is fake' memes from white supremacist sites since 2010.

I don't know WTF is going on anymore, but if you are stupid, I don't associate with you anymore...well I call him on his birthday, but other than that no contact!

I'll never understand "fake holocaust" people.  It is basically an accusation that an ancient, diabolical, and unmatched in power group of global manipulators and dominators needed to invent a massive fake media campaign to garner sympathy from the global public.


Another weird part of this is that it made him intensely anti-semitic, and then he had a DNA test and found out he was part semitic. But we don't talk about that now, it's just easier to ignore him.
 
2022-09-27 12:38:35 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Spartapuss: [pbs.twimg.com image 675x1200]

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I feel like Riggleman has redeemed himself somewhat since then. He officiated a gay marriage, so he seems to have come around to believing that Love is Real.


If a person was a registered Republican after 2010, nothing can redeem them.
 
2022-09-27 12:40:17 AM  

suckfest: An awful lot of programming went into turning these heads to MAGA, from Hannity, Limbach, Beck and others repeated over and over and over, some back from before Obama was president.   Don't expect them to turn around after one argument, it's going to take a while, but still worth trying.


Foreign oil interests backed Murdoch in the 80's and 90's.
 
2022-09-27 12:42:54 AM  

4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.


She may or may not be gone, depending on why the conspiracy got its hooks in her to begin with. If she has some kind of undiagnosed mental health disorder like bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, then she's likely gone off the deep end and won't recover until she makes the choice to get help.

If she has nothing noteworthy going on in her life, she might just be bored and looking for some way to feel important or to be the hero, or otherwise is just looking for reasons to be paranoid and afraid of a world that she understands less and less as the years tick by. If that's the case, there might be help for her, but it's going to be extremely time and energy intensive and there's no guarantee it will even work. But it really just comes down to reaching out in help and not in an adversarial/confrontational way and establishing some common ground in the reality you both inhabit and slowly chipping away at the conspiracy from there.

There isn't a great outlook to it, to be perfectly honest. I lack both the time and the energy to try to deprogram my relatives, and so I simply write them off of my life completely so I can devote my time and energy to more worthwhile pursuits. But if you have the time and energy to devote to your mother, that's a good way to start.
 
2022-09-27 12:45:39 AM  
Mad_Radhu:
I feel like Riggleman has redeemed himself somewhat since then. He officiated a gay marriage, so he seems to have come around to believing that Love is Real.

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2022-09-27 12:49:15 AM  

MrSplifferton: PineappleOnPizza: MrSplifferton: My vegan hare krishna brother has been posting 'the holocaust is fake' memes from white supremacist sites since 2010.

I don't know WTF is going on anymore, but if you are stupid, I don't associate with you anymore...well I call him on his birthday, but other than that no contact!

I'll never understand "fake holocaust" people.  It is basically an accusation that an ancient, diabolical, and unmatched in power group of global manipulators and dominators needed to invent a massive fake media campaign to garner sympathy from the global public.

Another weird part of this is that it made him intensely anti-semitic, and then he had a DNA test and found out he was part semitic. But we don't talk about that now, it's just easier to ignore him.


It's always interesting to me that the same people who claim that the holocaust is fake are also the same people who desperately wish iat would happen again.
 
2022-09-27 12:49:30 AM  

mistahtom: Mad_Radhu: Spartapuss: [pbs.twimg.com image 675x1200]

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I feel like Riggleman has redeemed himself somewhat since then. He officiated a gay marriage, so he seems to have come around to believing that Love is Real.

If a person was a registered Republican after 2010, nothing can redeem them.


In IL, as I'm sure many other states, they'll register you in alignment to the primary you vote in. More than a few left learners take part in republican primary voting.
 
2022-09-27 12:52:56 AM  
Yet another article proving we are living in a post-persuasion era. There is no point trying to persuade people anymore. They're gone.

Therefore, the ONLY way to beat Republicans is to move to a Red State, and overthrow them. Mass migration is now the only remaining solution. The proof? You can't come up with any more effective solution which doesn't involve violence.
 
2022-09-27 12:56:18 AM  

4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.


She is gone.  The same with my mother.  She's no longer my mother.  I cut off communications, I changed my phone number without giving her my new number, I moved without giving her my new address.  My PO Box is the same, if she ever decides to find sanity.  I don't need insanity and toxicity in my life.
 
2022-09-27 12:56:46 AM  

Corn_Fed: MrSplifferton: PineappleOnPizza: MrSplifferton: My vegan hare krishna brother has been posting 'the holocaust is fake' memes from white supremacist sites since 2010.

I don't know WTF is going on anymore, but if you are stupid, I don't associate with you anymore...well I call him on his birthday, but other than that no contact!

I'll never understand "fake holocaust" people.  It is basically an accusation that an ancient, diabolical, and unmatched in power group of global manipulators and dominators needed to invent a massive fake media campaign to garner sympathy from the global public.

Another weird part of this is that it made him intensely anti-semitic, and then he had a DNA test and found out he was part semitic. But we don't talk about that now, it's just easier to ignore him.

It's always interesting to me that the same people who claim that the holocaust is fake are also the same people who desperately wish iat would happen again.


I would say that I'm also annoyed that Israel seems to take 'never forget' as a lesson on how to treat Palestinians, but this isn't that discussion.
 
2022-09-27 12:59:00 AM  

4seasons85!: Had a massively disappointing conversation with my mom the other day. Although she says she's not a conspiracy theorist, she says that they are saying that once Biden declares January 6th a coup, he will cancel the upcoming election and take over everything. Also according to her Biden definitely has dementia and we are pushing our views on her. She is basically gone down the Evangelical/Right wing conspiracy rabbit hole. I don't know what to do. She's basically gone.


Unfortunately, very few will be recovered. For that to happen would mean that they would have to admit they were totally blind and fooled for years. It will be less embarrassing to continue on their path than to admit their willing stupidity.
Several years ago I was able to bring a friend back from his political delusions. He was ashamed at what he had become, but wanted to be normal again. It lasted less than a week. He fell back into the hole and became even worse. All his friends (including me) and family have left him and he is all alone with his anger and political fantasies. I miss my friend, but he is never coming back.
 
2022-09-27 12:59:08 AM  

Corn_Fed: Yet another article proving we are living in a post-persuasion era. There is no point trying to persuade people anymore. They're gone.

Therefore, the ONLY way to beat Republicans is to move to a Red State, and overthrow them. Mass migration is now the only remaining solution. The proof? You can't come up with any more effective solution which doesn't involve violence.


Is putting lithium in their water supply technically violence?
 
2022-09-27 1:04:53 AM  
I understand why people here on Fark want to hate everyone who has ever associated with the GOP, but this guy seems OK to me.
 
2022-09-27 1:09:28 AM  

MrSplifferton: PineappleOnPizza: MrSplifferton: My vegan hare krishna brother has been posting 'the holocaust is fake' memes from white supremacist sites since 2010.

I don't know WTF is going on anymore, but if you are stupid, I don't associate with you anymore...well I call him on his birthday, but other than that no contact!

I'll never understand "fake holocaust" people.  It is basically an accusation that an ancient, diabolical, and unmatched in power group of global manipulators and dominators needed to invent a massive fake media campaign to garner sympathy from the global public.

Once they latch onto one conspiracy they accept the others, my brother started with 9/11 conspiracies and just went of the deep end from there.


Once someone believes/realizes that sources generally considered credible were lying to him about something it should be no surprise what happens after that. He wonders "what else was I lied to about?" and now doesn't have any trust except in people who confirm what he thinks about that subject.
 
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