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2022-09-26 11:04:59 AM  
ArriveCAN canned.  I still think we should have kept it for a bit more, but I prefer to play it extra safe.
 
2022-09-26 11:12:41 AM  
I had to use ArriveCAN twice traveling to Toronto, and it wasn't bad at all.  It was some of the fastest I've ever gone thru the border into Canada.
 
2022-09-26 11:53:01 AM  
Now a bunch of plague rats will head north to make a point about something and be general aholes.
 
2022-09-26 11:53:06 AM  
Was it even there, really? I filled out all the forms for a trip to Vancouver last month, that was fine, but nobody at either airport ever checked any of it, or the QR code, or anything. So...lucky me?
 
2022-09-26 11:53:09 AM  

Driedsponge: I had to use ArriveCAN twice traveling to Toronto, and it wasn't bad at all.  It was some of the fastest I've ever gone thru the border into Canada.


My brother and my son both used it recently and said the same thing.  Made it much easier.
 
2022-09-26 11:56:39 AM  
So Toronto is really going to make the playoffs?
 
2022-09-26 11:58:10 AM  
Hasn't capitalism suffered long enough? Get back to mass consumption, apes.
 
2022-09-26 11:59:01 AM  

Fast B: Was it even there, really? I filled out all the forms for a trip to Vancouver last month, that was fine, but nobody at either airport ever checked any of it, or the QR code, or anything. So...lucky me?


I thought I had to show my phone at the border, too. The agent said, "No, we've already gotten everything we need from your phone."
 
2022-09-26 12:01:10 PM  
And this is why we're in trouble as a species. We don't base our continuous medical precautions on whether a threat still exists, but on whether politicians think maintaining the precautions is good or bad for their careers. Post-vaccine, most voters became bored with Covid as an ongoing issue, and it doesn't test well anymore.
 
2022-09-26 12:03:32 PM  

EdgeRunner: And this is why we're in trouble as a species. We don't base our continuous medical precautions on whether a threat still exists, but on whether politicians think maintaining the precautions is good or bad for their careers. Post-vaccine, most voters became bored with Covid as an ongoing issue, and it doesn't test well anymore.


welcome to basic human nature since day 1
 
2022-09-26 12:04:04 PM  
I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.
 
2022-09-26 12:05:45 PM  

wellreadneck: Fast B: Was it even there, really? I filled out all the forms for a trip to Vancouver last month, that was fine, but nobody at either airport ever checked any of it, or the QR code, or anything. So...lucky me?

I thought I had to show my phone at the border, too. The agent said, "No, we've already gotten everything we need from your phone."


I had to upload that information to Air Canada at checkin and the checkin was done 72 hours before flight, so ya they already had it. We also had to wait a moment on the tarmac before debarking as they verified everyone had filled it in. Verification was checking their records.

Going into Canada was much simpler than returning to the US.
 
2022-09-26 12:07:02 PM  

DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.


Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.
 
2022-09-26 12:09:21 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Hasn't capitalism suffered long enough? Get back to mass consumption, apes.


Do you really care? Get your farking vaccines. The theatre isn't doing anything, that does.

You're more pissed off that you don't have the mask to visibly prove you're not republican.
 
2022-09-26 12:09:36 PM  

SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.

Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.


You're right, I would have cared about covid in 2018.  What the fark is your point?
 
2022-09-26 12:13:04 PM  
Some pandemic changes should have been permanent.  Why shouldn't we always  be able to track and contact tourists?  Why shouldn't we always require proof of vaccinations?
 
2022-09-26 12:13:50 PM  

DOCTORD000M: SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.

Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.

You're right, I would have cared about covid in 2018.  What the fark is your point?


I think it's that they have a rich inner-world, but don't engage with reality at all.
 
2022-09-26 12:15:18 PM  

DOCTORD000M: SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.

Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.

You're right, I would have cared about covid in 2018.  What the fark is your point?


*wouldn't

/because it wasn't a problem in 2018
 
2022-09-26 12:17:34 PM  
From TFA: "If anybody believes the pandemic is over, I invite them to visit a hospital," he said.

Any farkers working in hospitals in Canada? I hate above statements because the speaker most often doesn't want people to do what they say to keep them ignorant, but if it's bad or not really that bad, I want to know the truth. I'm too far away and I don't trust my family.
 
2022-09-26 12:18:07 PM  

maudibjr: EdgeRunner: And this is why we're in trouble as a species. We don't base our continuous medical precautions on whether a threat still exists, but on whether politicians think maintaining the precautions is good or bad for their careers. Post-vaccine, most voters became bored with Covid as an ongoing issue, and it doesn't test well anymore.

welcome to basic human nature since day 1


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"Covid's so last year. Today's voters are much more engaged with the optics of Johnny Depp dating his defense lawyer, and we're trying to spin a position on that into a viable political statement that looks good on a bumper sticker."
 
2022-09-26 12:20:28 PM  

DOCTORD000M: SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.

Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.

You're right, I would have cared about covid in 2018.  What the fark is your point?


ITT Covid is the only disease that exists.

The flu, or even a cold, will kill someone undergoing cancer treatment just as much as Covid will but in 2018 you wouldn't have had a second thought about travelling without a mask during flu season. Covid isn't really special here.

My point is you don't actually care, the same danger always existed but only now is it something you'll scream about. The political actions of wearing a mask are what you care about.

Oh, and no one is stopping you from wearing a mask as long as you want.
 
2022-09-26 12:23:58 PM  
How very Canadian.  Abandon a thing just as it starts working properly.  At least it wasn't a jet fighter.
 
2022-09-26 12:25:14 PM  
Good.
We were coming back from New York and when we got to Canadian Customs the agent asked us for our ArriveCAN info.

Me: "Our what? Never heard of it"

Customs dude with a flat-top buzz cut and aviator glasses : "Never HEARD OF IT!? You didn't see all the billboards or hear the ads"

"No. The only billboard I saw was a tiny LED sign about 100 feet back there"

"Well I'll do it for you but if you try this again you'll get a $600 fine and yadda yadda yadda..."
 
2022-09-26 12:26:20 PM  

EdgeRunner: maudibjr: EdgeRunner: And this is why we're in trouble as a species. We don't base our continuous medical precautions on whether a threat still exists, but on whether politicians think maintaining the precautions is good or bad for their careers. Post-vaccine, most voters became bored with Covid as an ongoing issue, and it doesn't test well anymore.

welcome to basic human nature since day 1

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"Covid's so last year. Today's voters are much more engaged with the optics of Johnny Depp dating his defense lawyer, and we're trying to spin a position on that into a viable political statement that looks good on a bumper sticker."


OMG he's dating his defense lawyer!?
 
2022-09-26 12:28:11 PM  

DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.


At a minimum, wear an N95 mask the whole time (terminal building and airplane). Turn on the overhead air vent and point it at your face. No indoor dining. If you have to drink on the flight, use a straw and exhale air as you're re-seating the mask. Eye protection might help. Use hand sanitizer. Shower and put on clean clothes as soon as you arrive at your destination. Good luck.
 
2022-09-26 12:29:02 PM  

RunawayCanuck: From TFA: "If anybody believes the pandemic is over, I invite them to visit a hospital," he said.

Any farkers working in hospitals in Canada? I hate above statements because the speaker most often doesn't want people to do what they say to keep them ignorant, but if it's bad or not really that bad, I want to know the truth. I'm too far away and I don't trust my family.


https://www.publichealthontario.ca/en/data-and-analysis/infectious-disease/covid-19-data-surveillance/covid-19-data-tool?tab=summary

246 hospital admissions and 49 deaths in the past week.
For a hospital system working with about 3/4 of their usual staff because everyone got fed up and quit.
A new wave is a sure thing for this fall.
 
2022-09-26 12:30:09 PM  

Fast B: Was it even there, really? I filled out all the forms for a trip to Vancouver last month, that was fine, but nobody at either airport ever checked any of it, or the QR code, or anything. So...lucky me?


did you notice that you downloaded it to a computer?  When they scanned your passport your info was on their screen.  The info on your phone was only backup if their was a problem when you got to the border.
 
2022-09-26 12:30:12 PM  
Terrible headline, subby. How about "ArriveCAN in the shiatCAN"
 
2022-09-26 12:31:03 PM  

SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.

Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.

You're right, I would have cared about covid in 2018.  What the fark is your point?

ITT Covid is the only disease that exists.

The flu, or even a cold, will kill someone undergoing cancer treatment just as much as Covid will but in 2018 you wouldn't have had a second thought about travelling without a mask during flu season. Covid isn't really special here.

My point is you don't actually care, the same danger always existed but only now is it something you'll scream about. The political actions of wearing a mask are what you care about.

Oh, and no one is stopping you from wearing a mask as long as you want.


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2022-09-26 12:32:56 PM  

SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.

Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.

You're right, I would have cared about covid in 2018.  What the fark is your point?

ITT Covid is the only disease that exists.

The flu, or even a cold, will kill someone undergoing cancer treatment just as much as Covid will but in 2018 you wouldn't have had a second thought about travelling without a mask during flu season. Covid isn't really special here.

My point is you don't actually care, the same danger always existed but only now is it something you'll scream about. The political actions of wearing a mask are what you care about.

Oh, and no one is stopping you from wearing a mask as long as you want.


Prevalence and severity are still higher with COVID than the Flu.

My point is you don't actually care, the dangers have always been very different but only now that most people think the threat is the same is it something you'll scream about. The political actions of not wearing a mask are what you care about.
 
2022-09-26 12:33:47 PM  

SMB2811: The flu, or even a cold, will kill someone undergoing cancer treatment just as much as Covid will...


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FYI: During serious cold or flu seasons, most hospitals limited visitation and would have blocked symptom-showing people from entry even prior to Covid. The medical community has always taken it seriously even if you didn't.
 
2022-09-26 12:36:58 PM  

SMB2811: Karma Chameleon: Hasn't capitalism suffered long enough? Get back to mass consumption, apes.

Do you really care? Get your farking vaccines. The theatre isn't doing anything, that does.

You're more pissed off that you don't have the mask to visibly prove you're not republican.


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2022-09-26 12:41:53 PM  
I still wear a mask when flying, and will continue to do so.

Also while shopping.

Have not even had a cold in the last couple of years.
 
2022-09-26 12:44:59 PM  
But I was assured by my conservative relatives that new mandates, even stricter than in the first year of covid, were going to be implemented this fall in preparation for the suspension of parliament and personal freedoms and the installation of Trudeau as dictator for life if WE DON'T FIGHT BACK NOW!!!
 
2022-09-26 12:46:48 PM  

EdgeRunner: and would have blocked symptom-showing people from entry even prior to Covid.


I have worked in hospitals for over 32 years, nobody said boo to me if I arrived sick before covid. They encouraged their staff to stay home if they were sick but as a contractor they never restricted my access.
 
2022-09-26 12:49:02 PM  
Victory for the Freedom Convoy!  HONNNNNNNNNNNNK
 
2022-09-26 12:49:12 PM  

Fast B: Was it even there, really? I filled out all the forms for a trip to Vancouver last month, that was fine, but nobody at either airport ever checked any of it, or the QR code, or anything. So...lucky me?


That was my experience as well.
Didn't mind doing it--- but it didn't seem to matter.
 
2022-09-26 12:55:27 PM  

whatshisname: Good.
We were coming back from New York and when we got to Canadian Customs the agent asked us for our ArriveCAN info.

Me: "Our what? Never heard of it"

Customs dude with a flat-top buzz cut and aviator glasses : "Never HEARD OF IT!? You didn't see all the billboards or hear the ads"

"No. The only billboard I saw was a tiny LED sign about 100 feet back there"

"Well I'll do it for you but if you try this again you'll get a $600 fine and yadda yadda yadda..."


The only reason I knew about it was because an American border agent gave me a heads up when I left Canada.

Granted, it's my own damn fault that I I may have missed govt. ads about it because they were in French, but I honestly had no idea I would need anything other than a passport and that vaccine proof thing I already had on my phone.
 
2022-09-26 12:55:44 PM  

Numberlady2: Fast B: Was it even there, really? I filled out all the forms for a trip to Vancouver last month, that was fine, but nobody at either airport ever checked any of it, or the QR code, or anything. So...lucky me?

did you notice that you downloaded it to a computer?  When they scanned your passport your info was on their screen.  The info on your phone was only backup if their was a problem when you got to the border.


I did the whole thing from my phone, but sure, the fact that it's all readable from the database without my intervention isn't surprising. Just mostly cracking wise about all the verbiage (and airport signage) about having my QR code open and ready, followed by ...nothing. Like, "come on, take a look at this thing you had me do! Please?"
 
2022-09-26 12:58:37 PM  

SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: SMB2811: DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.

Would you have cared this much had the cancer diagnosis happened in 2018?

Hint: You wouldn't.

You're right, I would have cared about covid in 2018.  What the fark is your point?

ITT Covid is the only disease that exists.

The flu, or even a cold, will kill someone undergoing cancer treatment just as much as Covid will but in 2018 you wouldn't have had a second thought about travelling without a mask during flu season. Covid isn't really special here.

My point is you don't actually care, the same danger always existed but only now is it something you'll scream about. The political actions of wearing a mask are what you care about.

Oh, and no one is stopping you from wearing a mask as long as you want.


"Same"?  This August, Covid killed 6,000 people, while the flu killed 20 (similar numbers as pre-Covid).  So, under your logic, 20 and 6,000 are the "same".  IE, Covid is about 300 times more likely to kill than the flu.
 
2022-09-26 12:59:00 PM  

DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.


Fark handle does not check out.
 
2022-09-26 1:05:22 PM  

Driedsponge: I had to use ArriveCAN twice traveling to Toronto, and it wasn't bad at all.  It was some of the fastest I've ever gone thru the border into Canada.


Sounds like a plan. Agree to be tested, get fast tracked threw border checks.
 
2022-09-26 1:16:42 PM  

DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.


Using CO2 levels as a proxy for ventilation (and thus how safe a given area is) the plane in-flight is actually doing pretty well. Getting through the airport, and on the plane while loading/unloading/taxiing are bad.
 
2022-09-26 1:17:29 PM  

DOCTORD000M: I'm more concerned about the no more masks on planes.

My dad just got a cancer diagnosis and I'm sure I'll be flying home at some point soon to help out.  Now I get to do it on a plane full of maskless people and try to not bring covid with me to him.  Great.


Fly out a bit earlier wear a mask or two and quarantine yourself for a few days after arrival.  Is that too simple of a solution?
 
2022-09-26 1:17:37 PM  
The restrictions were a farce from the start because they exempted the commercial truck traffic that makes up the majority of border crossings.
 
2022-09-26 1:27:13 PM  

whatshisname: Good.
We were coming back from New York and when we got to Canadian Customs the agent asked us for our ArriveCAN info.

Me: "Our what? Never heard of it"

Customs dude with a flat-top buzz cut and aviator glasses : "Never HEARD OF IT!? You didn't see all the billboards or hear the ads"

"No. The only billboard I saw was a tiny LED sign about 100 feet back there"

"Well I'll do it for you but if you try this again you'll get a $600 fine and yadda yadda yadda..."


You didn't do any research about the country you are traveling to, for international travel, during a pandemic?
 
2022-09-26 1:27:22 PM  
 
2022-09-26 1:27:53 PM  

Klyukva: The restrictions were a farce from the start because they exempted the commercial truck traffic that makes up the majority of border crossings.


You'd think since the advent of containerized shipping it'd be trivial to transfer loads at the border and keep each nation's drivers on their own sides.

Hell, we should do that at state and provincial borders, too.  Keep drivers more local.
 
2022-09-26 1:32:59 PM  
They needed to ditch it because they were losing tourist dollars because too many Americans are stupid illiterate farkwits.

I'm in a couple of online communities with hardcore global travelers (the kind of people who will drive from Alaska to Argentina for fun).  These people travel a LOT, and exactly NONE of them had a problem with ArriveCAN for their own border crossings.  (Sometimes during the peak of the pandemic, sourcing timely COVID tests in Alaska to hit their crossing dates, etc. was tough, but the app/paperwork itself was never hard.)

That said, 100% of these people ALSO had stories of witnessing other Americans going absolutely apeshiat at the border crossings because they had failed to do the necessary prep work and wouldn't be allowed into Canada.  People showing up for cruises or ferry tickets that debarked in Canada, or pre-booked fishing "experiences", etc. all with no COVID paperwork, never having downloaded the app, etc.
 
2022-09-26 1:40:53 PM  
Can't you keep using ArriveCan if you want? I thought it made things faster at the airport since you fill out a lot of stuff you would have to go through in person with the officer. Also used it at a land border crossing, again, very fast processing compared to the before times.
 
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