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(LAD Bible)   Former Stone Roses frontman, Ian Brown, somehow manages to out-Ian-Brown himself   (ladbible.com) divider line
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2022-09-26 10:32:46 AM  
 
2022-09-26 10:49:32 AM  
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2022-09-26 10:50:10 AM  
Love the Roses, agree with the view that their debut is phenomenal, and I even think their often maligned second album is quite good, too, but Brown has always been a kind of boring, half-lazy frontman. He was right for that band at that time, but on stage, he's always come across as being bored out of his mind and thinking that his mere presence was enough to sustain a show. (It's not.)

I still play that first Stone Roses album pretty regularly, but I wouldn't go see one of his solo performances even if the tix were free.
 
2022-09-26 11:27:49 AM  
Just imagine the cheers....turning to boos.
 
2022-09-26 11:36:26 AM  

shoegaze99: Love the Roses, agree with the view that their debut is phenomenal, and I even think their often maligned second album is quite good, too, but Brown has always been a kind of boring, half-lazy frontman. He was right for that band at that time, but on stage, he's always come across as being bored out of his mind and thinking that his mere presence was enough to sustain a show. (It's not.)

I still play that first Stone Roses album pretty regularly, but I wouldn't go see one of his solo performances even if the tix were free.


Ha. I came here to say I love their first album but Second Coming remains one of my most regretful used cd purchases. Maybe it isn't so bad - just compared to the first it seemed to be.

I'm fairly sure I bought Cut the Crap in the same purchase. Some record store employee really should have heckled me until I put them both back.
 
2022-09-26 11:47:02 AM  

holdmybones: shoegaze99: Love the Roses, agree with the view that their debut is phenomenal, and I even think their often maligned second album is quite good, too, but Brown has always been a kind of boring, half-lazy frontman. He was right for that band at that time, but on stage, he's always come across as being bored out of his mind and thinking that his mere presence was enough to sustain a show. (It's not.)

I still play that first Stone Roses album pretty regularly, but I wouldn't go see one of his solo performances even if the tix were free.

Ha. I came here to say I love their first album but Second Coming remains one of my most regretful used cd purchases. Maybe it isn't so bad - just compared to the first it seemed to be.


I get why people don't like it. It's such a different record from the first, it's hard to reconcile it as the follow-up. To go from the airy, dance-y pop of that first record to the heavy blues and Zep-inspired riffs of the second can really throw you off. It's not what you sign up for when you get a Stone Roses record.

Taken on its own terms, though, I think it holds up pretty well.

For instance, I've long loved this riff:

Stone Roses Driving South
Youtube WKRQZrJJJCM


Still some really pretty songs on it, too. This is one of the loveliest things they've ever done:
 
2022-09-26 11:47:30 AM  
Sorry, Fark tossed out the second video. Here it is:

The Stone Roses - Your Star Will Shine (audio only)
Youtube y-14GN_cy1k
 
2022-09-26 11:51:30 AM  
so I saw Angelo Moore do a spoken word and singing gig with his MacBook.  Was FARKING BRILLIANT.  But Angelo is his own stage show, and Ian is too quaalude to pull that off.
 
2022-09-26 11:53:58 AM  
A band I was in opened for Ween at the Bayou in DC right after they recorded 12 Golden Country Greats. They hit the stage with a guitar plugged into the board and a DAT machine. I still liked it, but I also didn't pay for my ticket... and it was Ween.
 
2022-09-26 12:09:20 PM  

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2022-09-26 12:52:16 PM  

Damn Bleeblah: A band I was in opened for Ween at the Bayou in DC right after they recorded 12 Golden Country Greats. They hit the stage with a guitar plugged into the board and a DAT machine. I still liked it, but I also didn't pay for my ticket... and it was Ween.


You should have seen their "heavy metal" show.

Jeez.
 
2022-09-26 1:35:01 PM  

shoegaze99: holdmybones: shoegaze99: Love the Roses, agree with the view that their debut is phenomenal, and I even think their often maligned second album is quite good, too, but Brown has always been a kind of boring, half-lazy frontman. He was right for that band at that time, but on stage, he's always come across as being bored out of his mind and thinking that his mere presence was enough to sustain a show. (It's not.)

I still play that first Stone Roses album pretty regularly, but I wouldn't go see one of his solo performances even if the tix were free.

Ha. I came here to say I love their first album but Second Coming remains one of my most regretful used cd purchases. Maybe it isn't so bad - just compared to the first it seemed to be.

I get why people don't like it. It's such a different record from the first, it's hard to reconcile it as the follow-up. To go from the airy, dance-y pop of that first record to the heavy blues and Zep-inspired riffs of the second can really throw you off. It's not what you sign up for when you get a Stone Roses record.



I'm in the same camp as you. I've always felt John Squire was the star of that band, at least musically, so while Second Coming was certainly not up to the level of the first album I always though it held its own very well. "Love Spreads" seems to be the song everyone knows from that album, but "Driving South" is my favorite, just in front of "Tightrope".

That being said, while I've never seen them perform live, I truly believe I have a better singing voice than Ian Brown, and I can cause neighbors to call my house and tell me to shut my windows if I'm "going to keep making those horrid noises". I call the Roses one of my favorite bands ever, and would never pay to hear only Ian sing. He's one of those singers who needs to have the band wash out whatever he's trying to do.
 
2022-09-26 1:37:03 PM  
Not even Bez was there?
 
2022-09-26 2:01:15 PM  

snowybunting: That being said, while I've never seen them perform live, I truly believe I have a better singing voice than Ian Brown, and I can cause neighbors to call my house and tell me to shut my windows if I'm "going to keep making those horrid noises". I call the Roses one of my favorite bands ever, and would never pay to hear only Ian sing. He's one of those singers who needs to have the band wash out whatever he's trying to do.


I saw them in the mid-90s, and it's as you can probably predict. The band was fantastic. Tight, focused, sounded great, and they jumped back and forth between the blues of Second Coming and the Madchester pop of the debut with ease. Squire was in rare form and seemed to want to earn his place among the guitar gods.

But Brown was Brown. He's kind of tuneless. As you say, he needs the band to wash him out. He's fine, when taken as just another instrument in the band -- he works well in the mix (and it probably helps he's one of the few frontmen I can sing along with well!) -- but as a singer he's bland and his stage presence is almost as dull as Liam Gallagher's. He moves around more than Liam, but has none of Liam's snarl.

Still love the Roses, though, and always will.
 
2022-09-26 2:38:58 PM  
Sources say he remains a solarizing figure....
 
2022-09-26 2:52:48 PM  

shoegaze99: snowybunting: That being said, while I've never seen them perform live, I truly believe I have a better singing voice than Ian Brown, and I can cause neighbors to call my house and tell me to shut my windows if I'm "going to keep making those horrid noises". I call the Roses one of my favorite bands ever, and would never pay to hear only Ian sing. He's one of those singers who needs to have the band wash out whatever he's trying to do.

I saw them in the mid-90s, and it's as you can probably predict. The band was fantastic. Tight, focused, sounded great, and they jumped back and forth between the blues of Second Coming and the Madchester pop of the debut with ease. Squire was in rare form and seemed to want to earn his place among the guitar gods.

But Brown was Brown. He's kind of tuneless. As you say, he needs the band to wash him out. He's fine, when taken as just another instrument in the band -- he works well in the mix (and it probably helps he's one of the few frontmen I can sing along with well!) -- but as a singer he's bland and his stage presence is almost as dull as Liam Gallagher's. He moves around more than Liam, but has none of Liam's snarl.

Still love the Roses, though, and always will.


I have seen them three times, each time about the same - the band were excellent and Squire is absolutely fantastic. Last time was at Coachella and made sure to be right in front of him. Love his tone. Then Ian chimes in with some out of tune lyrics which are largely sung better by the crowd.

Also, oblig

Shaun of the Dead - Record Scene
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2022-09-26 5:04:48 PM  

Damn Bleeblah: A band I was in opened for Ween at the Bayou in DC right after they recorded 12 Golden Country Greats. They hit the stage with a guitar plugged into the board and a DAT machine. I still liked it, but I also didn't pay for my ticket... and it was Ween.


Have you listened to that album? It was pretty stripped, that was kinda the point
 
2022-09-26 5:58:41 PM  

shoegaze99: Brown has always been a kind of boring, half-lazy frontman


Brown wasn't even the best singer in the Stone Roses.
 
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