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(NL Times (Netherlands))   Country that is 26% below sea level, has 6200 km of navigable waterways, many more that aren't navigable, and a capital city that would flood if they ever stopped pumping the water out is running out of water   (nltimes.nl) divider line
    More: Ironic, Drinking water, Water companies, Water purification, Water crisis, Water supply network, Water, potable water, Desalination  
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5898 clicks; posted to Main » on 26 Sep 2022 at 8:05 AM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-26 8:10:05 AM  
Nestle rapid response teams are moving on site to drain as much water while they still can.
 
2022-09-26 8:10:22 AM  
"We never knew this was coming" - everyone who knew this was coming
 
2022-09-26 8:11:10 AM  
Fark 'em
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2022-09-26 8:12:04 AM  
Increased cases of cottonmouth will be a national emergency
 
2022-09-26 8:12:18 AM  

kb7rky: "We never knew this was coming" - everyone who knew this was coming


Look, what's more important, fixing global warming, or keeping oil prices low?
 
2022-09-26 8:13:08 AM  
Yeah but can they still use fertilizer?

That's the important thing.
 
2022-09-26 8:14:09 AM  
They need desalination plants!

"They'd have enough salt to last forever!"
 
2022-09-26 8:19:35 AM  
Too many people on the planet I guess. Self correcting. It wont be pretty.
 
2022-09-26 8:22:48 AM  

TaskForce26: They need desalination plants!

"They'd have enough salt to last forever!"


RIP Val Kilmer's voice.
 
2022-09-26 8:25:41 AM  
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2022-09-26 8:26:59 AM  
Yeeeeahhhhhh .... looking forward to more hot, wet, exotic dike pumping action.

MMMMMM Hmmmmmmmmmm.....
 
2022-09-26 8:29:54 AM  

kb7rky: "We never knew this was coming" - everyone who knew this was coming


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2022-09-26 8:30:26 AM  
Well, problem solved then.
 
2022-09-26 8:39:07 AM  
It's actually amazing to me that humanity decided to inhabit an area that was almost literally under water much of the year; an area that they still have to pump water out of in order to make it habitable. All those windmills the Netherlands are famous for weren't for milling flour - they were for pumping water. Continually and constantly pumping water out to make the land habitable.

That said, the Netherlands is a beautiful country.
 
2022-09-26 8:46:16 AM  

bighairyguy: Fark 'em
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2022-09-26 8:51:21 AM  

baronbloodbath: bighairyguy: Fark 'em
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Could be worse.
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2022-09-26 8:58:15 AM  

fat_free: Yeeeeahhhhhh .... looking forward to more hot, wet, exotic dike pumping action.

MMMMMM Hmmmmmmmmmm.....


Exotic Dike Pumping is the name of my new Pornhub channel
 
2022-09-26 9:01:02 AM  

kb7rky: "We never knew this was coming" - everyone who knew this was coming


The kid stuck his finger in the dike. What more do you want?
 
2022-09-26 9:11:24 AM  
Do they have a plan to fix this, or is their leadership rudderless?
 
2022-09-26 9:13:01 AM  
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2022-09-26 9:19:58 AM  
Droughts happen when there is less rain which causes droughts which causes less rain ...

Just looking at the thermometer and thinking about heating or cooling your place is just the tip of the melting iceberg now known as climate change.  At least there aren't forest fires which are followed by mud slides and torrential rains in the Netherlands.
 
2022-09-26 9:34:14 AM  
Are the sex workers safe? Please tell me that the sex workers are safe.

Will send bottled water.
 
2022-09-26 9:40:50 AM  

fat_free: Yeeeeahhhhhh .... looking forward to more hot, wet, exotic dike pumping action.

MMMMMM Hmmmmmmmmmm.....


Dike Pumping Action is the name of my...you know what, nevermind.
 
2022-09-26 9:47:30 AM  

bdub77: fat_free: Yeeeeahhhhhh .... looking forward to more hot, wet, exotic dike pumping action.

MMMMMM Hmmmmmmmmmm.....

Dike Pumping Action is the name of my...you know what, nevermind.


4 Non Blondes cover band?
 
2022-09-26 10:03:21 AM  
They are an absurdly wealthy country. They will figure it out.
 
2022-09-26 10:06:42 AM  
Let them drink hash oil
 
2022-09-26 10:10:33 AM  

G. Tarrant: It's actually amazing to me that humanity decided to inhabit an area that was almost literally under water much of the year; an area that they still have to pump water out of in order to make it habitable. All those windmills the Netherlands are famous for weren't for milling flour - they were for pumping water. Continually and constantly pumping water out to make the land habitable.

That said, the Netherlands is a beautiful country.


Not all are used for pumping water. My home town has 9 windmills of which 2 are sawmills, 2 flour mills, and 5 pump water. I can see the eighth from my balcony and I used to live about 100m from the fourth.
 
2022-09-26 10:20:25 AM  

BitwiseShift: Droughts happen when there is less rain which causes droughts which causes less rain ...

Just looking at the thermometer and thinking about heating or cooling your place is just the tip of the melting iceberg now known as climate change.  At least there aren't forest fires which are followed by mud slides and torrential rains in the Netherlands.


We have both wildfires and flooding after torrential rains. The mudslides are limited to the Dutch mountains.
 
2022-09-26 10:29:14 AM  

madgonad: They are an absurdly wealthy country. They will figure it out.


So's the UK, and I hope the answer isn't Let The Proles StarveDie Of Thirst
 
2022-09-26 10:29:55 AM  

bighairyguy: Fark 'em
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That should have been posted in this thread.
 
2022-09-26 10:32:01 AM  

Bslim: fat_free: Yeeeeahhhhhh .... looking forward to more hot, wet, exotic dike pumping action.

MMMMMM Hmmmmmmmmmm.....

Exotic Dike Pumping is the name of my new Pornhub channel


That's such a coincidence it's also the name of my Umpa Pussy Riot cover band.

The tuba is very grand indeed.

Pom pom pom pom pom pom the farking end to sexist putinists pom pom pom pom
 
2022-09-26 10:52:57 AM  
did someone kill an albatross?

/apologies to Coleridge
 
2022-09-26 11:29:00 AM  
You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.
 
2022-09-26 11:41:38 AM  

whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.


Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.

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And in another news, they have plenty of water.

/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.
 
2022-09-26 11:43:26 AM  

madgonad: They are an absurdly wealthy country. They will figure it out.


In the future, wealth is going to look a lot like water.
 
2022-09-26 11:49:38 AM  
Groundwater and surface water sites are also endangered, with increasing salivation and the high amount of pollution from the agriculture and industrial sectors.

Hey you! Stop that drooling, don't you know there's a water shortage?
 
2022-09-26 11:54:14 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.

Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.

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And in another news, they have plenty of water.

/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.


Solar and wind.  Seems like NL would be one of the best places to do it, with their own history of windmills.
 
2022-09-26 12:04:03 PM  
a centuries old system of draining wetlands and then using pumps to keep the water out was a sustainable enterprise only ruined by climate change apparently.  the concentrated run off from the newly created farm fields will have no long term impact on the eco-system.

clearly the US has much to learn.

/s
 
2022-09-26 12:07:33 PM  

whidbey: TheMysteriousStranger: whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.

Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.

-----------

And in another news, they have plenty of water.

/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.

Solar and wind.  Seems like NL would be one of the best places to do it, with their own history of windmills.


FWIW, the Netherlands has the most solar panels per capita in Europe now, with 16% of homes having solar panels installed on their roof. This past July, about 30% of power generated was solar, which is starting to actually cause issues for the power companies because of the influx of excess residential energy flowing back onto the network that's out of their direct control.
 
2022-09-26 12:08:11 PM  
Well Hans Brinker will figure it all out, right?
 
2022-09-26 3:01:29 PM  

thatboyoverthere: Nestle rapid response teams are moving on site to drain as much water while they still can.


I was thinkig the same thing, Fark Nestle.
 
2022-09-26 7:16:44 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.

Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.

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And in another news, they have plenty of water.

/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.


Also disposing of the salt is a question for large scale desalination.

Yes, in the grand scheme of the ocean it wouldn't really matter, but the salt isn't being dumped all over the world, it is going to be extremely concentrated where it is released. Even with efforts to dilute it in things like waste water outflows still result in hugely concentrated salt water killing plenty of sea life.
 
2022-09-26 7:24:33 PM  

dywed88: TheMysteriousStranger: whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.

Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.

-----------

And in another news, they have plenty of water.

/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.

Also disposing of the salt is a question for large scale desalination.

Yes, in the grand scheme of the ocean it wouldn't really matter, but the salt isn't being dumped all over the world, it is going to be extremely concentrated where it is released. Even with efforts to dilute it in things like waste water outflows still result in hugely concentrated salt water killing plenty of sea life.


Purify it and sell it as sea salt.  Profit.

Yeah I know everything costs money.
 
2022-09-26 7:59:38 PM  

whidbey: dywed88: TheMysteriousStranger: whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.

Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.

-----------

And in another news, they have plenty of water.

/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.

Also disposing of the salt is a question for large scale desalination.

Yes, in the grand scheme of the ocean it wouldn't really matter, but the salt isn't being dumped all over the world, it is going to be extremely concentrated where it is released. Even with efforts to dilute it in things like waste water outflows still result in hugely concentrated salt water killing plenty of sea life.

Purify it and sell it as sea salt.  Profit.

Yeah I know everything costs money.


If humanity is to rely on desalination we will eclipse the salt consumption by orders of magnitude.

If California's urban water use switches to desalination, that alone would easily supply the global demand for salt.

What do you do with the rest of it?
 
2022-09-26 8:14:18 PM  

dywed88: TheMysteriousStranger: whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.

Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.

-----------

And in another news, they have plenty of water.

/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.

Also disposing of the salt is a question for large scale desalination.

Yes, in the grand scheme of the ocean it wouldn't really matter, but the salt isn't being dumped all over the world, it is going to be extremely concentrated where it is released. Even with efforts to dilute it in things like waste water outflows still result in hugely concentrated salt water killing plenty of sea life.


You're making the assumption that they'll just dump it somewhere.

https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/UnitedStatesOfAmerica/2501
The US imports about $750 million dollars worth of salt each year - I'm sure there can find someone to take a giant pile of salt off their hands, when there's a market already spending the better part of a billion dollars to buy exactly that.  Mass desalination just means we won't be buying as much from some Canadian or Chilean salt mine instead.
 
2022-09-26 8:45:12 PM  

dywed88: whidbey: dywed88: TheMysteriousStranger: whidbey: You'd think in the goddamn 21st Century we'd have desalination/purification techniques perfected.

Oh we have if you are willing to use a farkload of energy which has its own problems.
-----------
And in another news, they have plenty of water.
/Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.

Also disposing of the salt is a question for large scale desalination.

Yes, in the grand scheme of the ocean it wouldn't really matter, but the salt isn't being dumped all over the world, it is going to be extremely concentrated where it is released. Even with efforts to dilute it in things like waste water outflows still result in hugely concentrated salt water killing plenty of sea life.

Purify it and sell it as sea salt.  Profit.

Yeah I know everything costs money.

If humanity is to rely on desalination we will eclipse the salt consumption by orders of magnitude.

If California's urban water use switches to desalination, that alone would easily supply the global demand for salt.

What do you do with the rest of it?


thinking about it for a minute, the actual amount of salt would be staggering:

FWIW: according to google, ocean water contains about 35 grams per liter on average, or 132 grams per gallon. A 42 gallon barrel of ocean water will have 35*3.78*42 = 5556.6 grams, or 12.25 lbs of salt.

The average American uses 101.5 gallons of water per day -- if obtained through desalination, that would generate 29.6 lbs of salt per person per day, or 10,804 lbs of salt per person per year.

State of California as a whole supposedly uses 38 billion gallons of water a day.
That's 38 billion gallon * 132 grams = 5,016,000,000,000 grams of salt/day, or 11,058,387,071 lbs/day.    (actually more than that, since it doesn't account for the volume loss of the salt itself from the water, but lets ignore that for now)

Desalinating all of the water for california alone would generate 11 BILLION POUNDS of salt. Every day.
Over 4 trillion pounds per year.

Physically moving it somewhere (anywhere!) would be a gargantuan task, and just shoving if off a dock is going to be an ecological disaster that will make the dead sea look like a wildlife refuge in comparison.

Logistically, it'd be a mess.
 
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