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(Dazed Digital)   Goths who discovered brown "world's most derided subculture." Furries ask Juggalos to hold their beer   (dazeddigital.com) divider line
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2022-09-25 10:06:46 PM  
Disco Stu approves.
 
2022-09-25 10:17:37 PM  
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2022-09-25 10:19:29 PM  
Summon MattytheMouse.
 
2022-09-25 10:21:23 PM  

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I thought that read "Juggernope" at first, and thought "that sounds about right"
 
2022-09-25 10:46:44 PM  
When Your Friend Goes Steampunk - Key & Peele
Youtube Nbq6Wfh9fi4
 
2022-09-26 5:47:50 AM  
The heck...? Who considered steampunk the most derided subculture? Nobody posts memes about how this thread is unclean whenever Doctor Tarnabacle shows up on his magnificent steam-powered auto-carriage.
 
2022-09-26 5:51:18 AM  
Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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2022-09-26 5:59:49 AM  
So "Wild Wild West" will finally be seen for the brilliant piece of filmmaking it actually was?

//...trying to hold a straight face...
 
2022-09-26 6:01:15 AM  
When your most recognized representation in mainstream cinema is Wild Wild West and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. You can't really complain too much.
 
2022-09-26 6:13:33 AM  
Why does the writer think steampunk didn't exist before 2010?
 
2022-09-26 6:31:59 AM  

MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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Ewww!  Oh no!

/blue stockings with that outfit?
//yikes
///mark that shiat NSFF or something
 
2022-09-26 6:35:06 AM  

MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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Ooo is that Gadget <3
 
2022-09-26 7:05:52 AM  

Flappyhead: Why does the writer think steampunk didn't exist before 2010?


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FTFA:  Steampunk was first coined by writer K.W. Jeter in 1987 to describe a subgenre of science fiction that incorporates 19th-century aesthetics and retrofuturist technology inspired by the sort of fictional machines you'd find in an HG Wells or Jules Verne novel.
 
2022-09-26 7:10:17 AM  
Steampunk is what nerds who wanted to get into the punk/alternative scene did. Goth was 1920s silent-film-horror-punk, essentially. Steampunk was people saying "oh, you like the 1920s as punk style, huh? Well we are into the Victorian era as punk. It's new. You may not have heard of it. I'm very smart."

Old school goths didn't turn away steampunks, but we sure thought they were goofy and tryhard. However, then the Hot Topic babygoffs and vampire kids and emos and scene kids came along and made the steampunks look quaint by comparison.

I'm sort of sad there was never a SpaghettiPunk movement based on spaghetti westerns.
 
2022-09-26 7:20:04 AM  
Steampunk is come across as too calculated, like everything is cosplay. It hardly ever looks organic out in the real world.
Looks cool as hell everywhere else, though.
 
2022-09-26 7:20:29 AM  

swahnhennessy: Steampunk is come across as too calculated, like everything is cosplay. It hardly ever looks organic out in the real world.
Looks cool as hell everywhere else, though.


I is can speak English.
 
2022-09-26 7:28:14 AM  

swahnhennessy: Steampunk is come across as too calculated, like everything is cosplay. It hardly ever looks organic out in the real world.
Looks cool as hell everywhere else, though.



Like I said: Tryhard.

They were very eager-to-please when they tried to get into my group, though. The downside of fooling around with a steampunk is all the layers of clothes and gears and shiat you have to get through to find skin.
 
2022-09-26 7:33:16 AM  
When I saw Rush get inducted into RRHOF their stage getup was steampunk.  It was a really corny look.  Also the drummer's face was a raspberry- I figured raging alcoholism.

The old head fans were a trip - think Canadian tuxedos but covered head to toe in rush buttons.  I don't know how the hell they sat down!
 
2022-09-26 7:33:29 AM  
Hm, I don't see any Bronies or Rick and Morty stans in the article, so I assume the author doesn't know anything that happened after college and don't really go around the internet circles.
 
2022-09-26 7:33:36 AM  

swahnhennessy: Steampunk is come across as too calculated, like everything is cosplay. It hardly ever looks organic out in the real world.
Looks cool as hell everywhere else, though.


OK lemme get this straight;

Steampunk (which is a form of cosplay) looks too much like cosplay?
It doesn't look organic (it isn't organic) in the real world, but looks cool everywhere else??
Everywhere other than the world?

maybe I need more coffee (or hallucinogens).
 
2022-09-26 7:39:15 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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Ewww!  Oh no!

/blue stockings with that outfit?
//yikes
///mark that shiat NSFF or something


they have buttons; those are spats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spats_(footwear)
 
2022-09-26 7:40:43 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: swahnhennessy: Steampunk is come across as too calculated, like everything is cosplay. It hardly ever looks organic out in the real world.
Looks cool as hell everywhere else, though.

OK lemme get this straight;

Steampunk (which is a form of cosplay) looks too much like cosplay?
It doesn't look organic (it isn't organic) in the real world, but looks cool everywhere else??
Everywhere other than the world?

maybe I need more coffee (or hallucinogens).


Steampunk (which is a form of fashion) looks too much like cosplay. It looks cool in an isolated setting, like a photoshoot or convention, but does not blend organically into daily wear the way other alt fashion might.
 
2022-09-26 7:41:51 AM  
"Derided" by who, exactly?  Steampunk has always been a popular design aesthetic.  Like every other such fandom its popularity waxes and wanes, but it's always been pretty prominently ensconced in scifi and fantasy circles for the last thirty years.

And people biatch about furries, but seriously, furry content is everywhere, generates big bucks, and is far more integrated into our culture than almost any other popular aesthetic.
 
2022-09-26 7:50:29 AM  

evilmrsock: Steampunk (which is a form of fashion) looks too much like cosplay. It looks cool in an isolated setting, like a photoshoot or convention, but does not blend organically into daily wear the way other alt fashion might.


"alt fashion" not cosplay, gotcha.
(walks like a duck, quacks like a duck)
 
2022-09-26 7:52:15 AM  

WilderKWight: Old school goths didn't turn away steampunks, but we sure thought they were goofy and tryhard.


Most goths I knew were pretty snobby and looked down their nose at everyone who didn't dress like them or listen to the same music as them.  The rivetheads in particular were very bad.  That whole South Park parody of the goth kids rings very true in my experience.

The secret was I was a huge collector of electronic music and that included industrial and some goth.  I knew more about the music they listened to than they did.
 
2022-09-26 7:57:31 AM  

Dhusk: "Derided" by who, exactly?  Steampunk has always been a popular design aesthetic.  Like every other such fandom its popularity waxes and wanes, but it's always been pretty prominently ensconced in scifi and fantasy circles for the last thirty years.

And people biatch about furries, but seriously, furry content is everywhere, generates big bucks, and is far more integrated into our culture than almost any other popular aesthetic.


All this furry talk made me think of this for some reason.

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2022-09-26 7:59:51 AM  

Marcos P: MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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Ooo is that Gadget <3


That is Gadget! See, everybody is furry for Gadget!
 
2022-09-26 8:03:12 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: evilmrsock: Steampunk (which is a form of fashion) looks too much like cosplay. It looks cool in an isolated setting, like a photoshoot or convention, but does not blend organically into daily wear the way other alt fashion might.

"alt fashion" not cosplay, gotcha.
(walks like a duck, quacks like a duck)


Fashion-x
 
2022-09-26 8:12:48 AM  

Glitchwerks: WilderKWight: Old school goths didn't turn away steampunks, but we sure thought they were goofy and tryhard.

Most goths I knew were pretty snobby and looked down their nose at everyone who didn't dress like them or listen to the same music as them.  The rivetheads in particular were very bad.  That whole South Park parody of the goth kids rings very true in my experience.

The secret was I was a huge collector of electronic music and that included industrial and some goth.  I knew more about the music they listened to than they did.


Was this in the 80s? Because we were an open group that didn't do the snobby thing. Sounds like you're talking about mid-late 90s "goths" who took it to that weird Hot Topic level of dress-up and cliquishness.

Goth-- the original movement-- died in 1989. Anything after that was a new and separate subculture based on the original one, same as with hippies constantly being reborn and the 1950s sock-hopper/greaser fad that came around again in the 1970s (and then again in the Rockabilly subculture, which at least altered it dramatically and made it their own.)
 
2022-09-26 8:29:52 AM  

WilderKWight: Was this in the 80s? Because we were an open group that didn't do the snobby thing. Sounds like you're talking about mid-late 90s "goths" who took it to that weird Hot Topic level of dress-up and cliquishness.

Goth-- the original movement-- died in 1989. Anything after that was a new and separate subculture based on the original one, same as with hippies constantly being reborn and the 1950s sock-hopper/greaser fad that came around again in the 1970s (and then again in the Rockabilly subculture, which at least altered it dramatically and made it their own.)


Late 80s to mid 90s.  Last industrial show I went to was Download when "Furnace" came out.  I honestly can't remember if Goettel was still alive when I saw them.  I only remember Cevin, Mark, and Ryan Moore.
 
2022-09-26 8:30:36 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: evilmrsock: Steampunk (which is a form of fashion) looks too much like cosplay. It looks cool in an isolated setting, like a photoshoot or convention, but does not blend organically into daily wear the way other alt fashion might.

"alt fashion" not cosplay, gotcha.
(walks like a duck, quacks like a duck)


Weird hangup to have. Anyone who can afford to dress in a specific chosen style is cosplaying by that measure, which makes that observation worthless towards evaluating a specific one.
 
2022-09-26 8:31:21 AM  

WilderKWight: Steampunk is what nerds who wanted to get into the punk/alternative scene did. Goth was 1920s silent-film-horror-punk, essentially. Steampunk was people saying "oh, you like the 1920s as punk style, huh? Well we are into the Victorian era as punk. It's new. You may not have heard of it. I'm very smart."

Old school goths didn't turn away steampunks, but we sure thought they were goofy and tryhard. However, then the Hot Topic babygoffs and vampire kids and emos and scene kids came along and made the steampunks look quaint by comparison.

I'm sort of sad there was never a SpaghettiPunk movement based on spaghetti westerns.


I would think spaghetti blends into steam easily. Deadlands, Wild Wild West, etc.
 
2022-09-26 8:57:05 AM  

MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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2022-09-26 8:57:22 AM  

Dhusk: "Derided" by who, exactly?  Steampunk has always been a popular design aesthetic.  Like every other such fandom its popularity waxes and wanes, but it's always been pretty prominently ensconced in scifi and fantasy circles for the last thirty years.


That's what I was trying to figure out. It's very underrepresented in media (just a few middling-to-bad films), there aren't a lot of conventions or other outlets, but I didn't know it was ever "derided."

I thought it was always a "hey that looks cool, but what is there to do when you dress like that?" aesthetic.
 
2022-09-26 8:58:38 AM  

MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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But everyone is furry for Gadget...
 
2022-09-26 9:09:04 AM  

Gleeman: MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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But everyone is furry for Gadget...


Real talk, is a character who is already an animal, but anthro'd really a furry?  Or is it just easier to refer to them all as furries because calling out the distinction basically means you have a subscription to Yiff.com?
 
2022-09-26 9:11:41 AM  

MattytheMouse: Anyway, just to make this thread unclean.
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I'll see your Gadget and raise one Chisato

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2022-09-26 9:15:15 AM  
Isn't Steampunk just gluing carboard gears onto a Nerf gun?
 
2022-09-26 9:31:17 AM  

WhippingBoi: Isn't Steampunk just gluing carboard gears onto a Nerf gun?


Once, maybe. Now it's gluing 3D-printed gears onto Nerf guns. Try to keep up with modern times.

/Nerf guns really do look steampunk with the right paint scheme
 
2022-09-26 9:55:13 AM  
This is the wrong time of year to try claiming Steampunk is a rejected fandom. It commands its own sections in costume shops, and Spirit Halloween doesn't waste shelf space on items no one wants to buy. You might as well say that pirates and evil clowns are passe now.
 
2022-09-26 10:11:11 AM  

EdgeRunner: This is the wrong time of year to try claiming Steampunk is a rejected fandom. It commands its own sections in costume shops, and Spirit Halloween doesn't waste shelf space on items no one wants to buy. You might as well say that pirates and evil clowns are passe now.


Too generic.

You need to stock up on "Admiral John Crow" and "Evil Sewer Jester" costumes.
 
2022-09-26 10:14:45 AM  
Brown; color is weird
Youtube wh4aWZRtTwU
 
2022-09-26 10:34:05 AM  

evilmrsock: brainlordmesomorph: swahnhennessy: Steampunk is come across as too calculated, like everything is cosplay. It hardly ever looks organic out in the real world.
Looks cool as hell everywhere else, though.

OK lemme get this straight;

Steampunk (which is a form of cosplay) looks too much like cosplay?
It doesn't look organic (it isn't organic) in the real world, but looks cool everywhere else??
Everywhere other than the world?

maybe I need more coffee (or hallucinogens).

Steampunk (which is a form of fashion) looks too much like cosplay. It looks cool in an isolated setting, like a photoshoot or convention, but does not blend organically into daily wear the way other alt fashion might.


Thank you.
 
2022-09-26 11:15:57 AM  
evilmrsock:

I can if done minimalist, it's the fact many go way overboard with it that brings it to costuming
 
2022-09-26 11:19:16 AM  
 
2022-09-26 11:25:27 AM  
I think Dieselpunk is pretty cool. Like I've met some ladies that fit the bill in real life. No "costume" needed.

"Get on back, boyo! We're headed out!"
 
2022-09-26 11:43:18 AM  
Just Glue Some Gears On It (And Call It Steampunk)
Youtube TFCuE5rHbPA
 
2022-09-26 12:22:45 PM  
I only checked the comments to see if someone could decipher the first sentence in the headline. Brown???
 
2022-09-26 12:27:44 PM  

AuralArgument: Glitchwerks:

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ooh, I love Gothabilly's dress... I need that. Red and White I'm seeing it in.
 
2022-09-26 12:31:45 PM  

Omnidirectional Punching: I only checked the comments to see if someone could decipher the first sentence in the headline. Brown???


"Goths who discovered brown" = Steampunkers

/took me a while too
 
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