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2022-09-25 1:41:19 PM  
I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.
 
2022-09-25 1:48:17 PM  

Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.


I mean the modern versions offer much more detailed analysis than just how many steps you've taken. They also come with tools for encouragement of healthy exercise activities and tracking progress toward long term goals.

People love technology. If your confused by this I expect Facebook is especially confusing since gossiping and spreading misinformation has existed for centuries.
 
2022-09-25 2:31:38 PM  

Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.


I interviewed with a company making a computerized (think PIC microprocessors, not like a modern phone) version around 1990.

I'm guessing it is a social media thing.  You paste it on your Instabook page and show off how you shake it.
 
2022-09-25 2:33:19 PM  

Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.


Isn't it great that you don't have to get one then.

I've never understood the obsession with stating you've never understood why other people do things.
 
2022-09-25 2:41:55 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

I interviewed with a company making a computerized (think PIC microprocessors, not like a modern phone) version around 1990.

I'm guessing it is a social media thing.  You paste it on your Instabook page and show off how you shake it.


Skeet skeet
 
2022-09-25 2:42:55 PM  

SMB2811: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

Isn't it great that you don't have to get one then.

I've never understood the obsession with stating you've never understood why other people do things.


Well
When u live in a nuthouse u tend to remain bewildered
 
2022-09-25 2:44:18 PM  

keldaria: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

I mean the modern versions offer much more detailed analysis than just how many steps you've taken. They also come with tools for encouragement of healthy exercise activities and tracking progress toward long term goals.

People love technology. If your confused by this I expect Facebook is especially confusing since gossiping and spreading misinformation has existed for centuries.


I love giving big corp another avenue to snoop me
 
2022-09-25 2:45:08 PM  

Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.


Sit at home stock owners:  blasphemy!!  Off w his head!
 
2022-09-25 3:03:39 PM  
Why do you need an account to wear a watch?
 
2022-09-25 3:14:35 PM  
Dear Google,

I'll save you some time. I'm fat.

Also, please ignore that weird 90 seconds of activity and heart rate twice a day.
 
2022-09-25 3:34:20 PM  

keldaria: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

I mean the modern versions offer much more detailed analysis than just how many steps you've taken. They also come with tools for encouragement of healthy exercise activities and tracking progress toward long term goals.

People love technology. If your confused by this I expect Facebook is especially confusing since gossiping and spreading misinformation has existed for centuries.


I am not at all confused by the concept or the application, what confuses me is why anyone would carry around a tracker that was connected to the internet with no other purpose but to track steps. I can understand a isolated version but not one where said data can be abused.
 
2022-09-25 3:42:28 PM  
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2022-09-25 3:42:37 PM  

Black_Lazerus: keldaria: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

I mean the modern versions offer much more detailed analysis than just how many steps you've taken. They also come with tools for encouragement of healthy exercise activities and tracking progress toward long term goals.

People love technology. If your confused by this I expect Facebook is especially confusing since gossiping and spreading misinformation has existed for centuries.

I am not at all confused by the concept or the application, what confuses me is why anyone would carry around a tracker that was connected to the internet with no other purpose but to track steps. I can understand a isolated version but not one where said data can be abused.


As someone with a heart condition, that data along with average heart rate is useful to my heart specialist.
For example, it was really useful to see the post COVID infection impact on my average heart rate.
(it went from a 62 avg to 73)
 
2022-09-25 4:30:53 PM  
Well ok but only if they have hotter robot cat girls than tesla.
 
2022-09-25 4:40:44 PM  

Black_Lazerus: keldaria: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

I mean the modern versions offer much more detailed analysis than just how many steps you've taken. They also come with tools for encouragement of healthy exercise activities and tracking progress toward long term goals.

People love technology. If your confused by this I expect Facebook is especially confusing since gossiping and spreading misinformation has existed for centuries.

I am not at all confused by the concept or the application, what confuses me is why anyone would carry around a tracker that was connected to the internet with no other purpose but to track steps. I can understand a isolated version but not one where said data can be abused.


Based on the model, not all devices are connected to the internet.  Additionally, a Fitbit is a heart rate monitor and general activity monitor, not just a step counter.
 
2022-09-25 4:46:10 PM  

Linux_Yes: keldaria: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

I mean the modern versions offer much more detailed analysis than just how many steps you've taken. They also come with tools for encouragement of healthy exercise activities and tracking progress toward long term goals.

People love technology. If your confused by this I expect Facebook is especially confusing since gossiping and spreading misinformation has existed for centuries.

I love giving big corp another avenue to snoop me


The American consumer would pay to give big corp more information about them if it meant owning a neat trinket or having something be slightly more convenient. This is nothing new or novel. Privacy is a construct of the past and even then it wasn't all that private as any residents in a small town could have told you.
 
2022-09-25 4:47:37 PM  

Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.


-and- heart rate, temperature, sleep and blood o2.

/Just what a hypochondriac needs
 
2022-09-25 5:36:33 PM  
If I ever manage to get healthcare and they want me to wear a monitor and they give it to me - I'll consider it.  All I have now is Medicare.
 
2022-09-25 6:09:25 PM  

Black_Lazerus: I am not at all confused by the concept or the application, what confuses me is why anyone would carry around a tracker that was connected to the internet with no other purpose but to track steps. I can understand a isolated version but not one where said data can be abused.


Some people have spreadsheets and stuff where they track their progress and make reports and such.  They could manually type in their fitbit steps in every day (if they remember), or have the device remember and upload that data automatically.  There are all kinds of possibilities and conveniences.  If you're confused why some people might be willing to risk Big Corporations getting access to their exercise data, you lack imagination.
 
2022-09-25 6:37:45 PM  

Linux_Yes: SMB2811: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.

Isn't it great that you don't have to get one then.

I've never understood the obsession with stating you've never understood why other people do things.

Well
When u live in a nuthouse u tend to remain bewildered


We'll never understand why they're so crazy
 
2022-09-25 7:14:04 PM  
Because putting a chips in you to track everything you do is so last year. It's much easier to get people to voluntarily join your techno system, or force them to do so, in order to have access to toys and treats.
 
2022-09-25 8:17:07 PM  

SecondaryControl: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.
-and- heart rate, temperature, sleep and blood o2.
/Just what a hypochondriac needs


This bullshiat again.

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2022-09-25 8:58:10 PM  

cryinoutloud: SecondaryControl: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.
-and- heart rate, temperature, sleep and blood o2.
/Just what a hypochondriac needs

This bullshiat again.

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What a depressing anecdote. I have no issue with devices that record your calories, your workouts, your activities, to maximize whatever fitness or life goals you want to achieve. Most of these tools have indeed been around for decades. Bodybuilders int he 70s recorded everything in personal notebooks. The tendency for this generation to "gamify" their life (the ole Principal Skinner "see how many you can do, and then try to beat that record" is a time-worn tactic to getting things done) is a perfectly fine tactic toward productive achievement.

What I do have an issue with is doing these things through a surveillance device that tracks, records, and stores in a foreign database everything you do, to sell to market research firms, so they can curate what they sell to you, so they can better control, manipulate, and condition you toward their products. The more data points they have on you, the less of your life is actually yours.

I work in IT, and the future of technology farking terrifies me.
 
2022-09-25 9:38:41 PM  
All the people above feigning ignorance will rue the day that thier fit bit data is used to deny them treatment. I worked in tech to long to know that not only it will happen you won't even know it is being used to judge you.  But keep giving people opportunities to abuse the data you gave them.
 
2022-09-25 11:25:58 PM  

cryinoutloud: SecondaryControl: Black_Lazerus: I never understood the obsession with this piece of technology. Considering they've had a mechanical version of this since probably the '70s.
-and- heart rate, temperature, sleep and blood o2.
/Just what a hypochondriac needs

This bullshiat again.

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Anything can be addicting, even workouts or fitness routines. Just because some people don't know when to stop doesn't mean a fitness tracker can't be a helpful and useful tool in a health lifestyle which includes working out but also spending time with family and friends. Looking at the worse case use scenario is hardly genuine.

It's easy to look at the extreme cases and assume that's the real point behind the device, especially when the commercials for them seem to focus on those examples. However that's not the average consumer... if it was then the US wouldn't be nearly as overweight on average as it is.
 
2022-09-26 12:36:17 AM  

Black_Lazerus: All the people above feigning ignorance will rue the day that thier fit bit data is used to deny them treatment. I worked in tech to long to know that not only it will happen you won't even know it is being used to judge you.  But keep giving people opportunities to abuse the data you gave them.


That's nice.  Here's your blanket.  You can go back to rocking in the corner.
 
2022-09-26 9:50:33 AM  

Black_Lazerus: I am not at all confused by the concept or the application, what confuses me is why anyone would carry around a tracker that was connected to the internet with no other purpose but to track steps. I can understand a isolated version but not one where said data can be abused.


Stating that makes it pretty clear you're confused by the concept, because most modern trackers are far more than just a step counter.  The fitness trackers I've used were instrumental in my weight loss (close to 300 pounds).  It's one thing for people to say "weight loss is easy -- calories in, calories out", but without a fitness tracker, the only option you have for measuring calories out is to use various online calorie burn calculators, which are of dubious accuracy.  Which isn't to say that fitness trackers are perfectly accurate in reporting calorie burn, but after using one for a while, you can get a pretty good idea of its margin for error.  For example, as long as I keep my calories in (weighing portions and calculating calories) within 200-300 of my calories out (measured by my first gen Samsung Galaxy), I know I'll maintain my goal weight, which I've done for 3 1/2 years now.  When I was actively losing weight, I just increased that margin of error, keeping my intake 500-600 calories under my calorie burn.

The other part of your statement also speaks to your confusion (or rather, ignorance) on the concept.  I've used a variety of trackers over the years, and not one of them has ever known my real identity.  Fake name, email address used only for the tracker and nothing else, fake birthday that's close to my real birthday but not my birthday (just so the tracker knows my approximate age for calorie burn calculations), etc.  And in the case of my Samsung, I've only connected to Samsung's servers once, for the tracker's initial setup.  After that, my once-daily sync is done over Bluetooth to an old phone that is SIM-less and doesn't connect to the internet (other than the initial setup).
 
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