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(BBC-US)   Putin to conscripts: Fight and die, or go to prison for 10 years. Conscripts: In that case, surrendering to the Ukrainians looks like a good option, Мудак   (bbc.com) divider line
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2022-09-24 5:34:21 PM  
Will those guys get the citizenship+bonus for defecting?
 
2022-09-24 6:21:52 PM  
Putin's making quite the mess out of this. He's got his US mouthpiece, RT, criticizing him now.

"Margarita Simonyan, the editor of the state-run media outlet RT, posted to Twitter a list of elderly and disabled citizens ordered to report for duty. "
 
2022-09-24 8:19:56 PM  
Hey we surrender.
Take our guns
 
2022-09-24 9:49:13 PM  
He's also making it illegal to surrender so chessmate, traitors.
 
2022-09-24 10:00:13 PM  

vudukungfu: Hey we surrender.
Take our guns


Ha!  You think they will get guns?
 
2022-09-24 10:07:35 PM  

dammit just give me a login: Will those guys get the citizenship+bonus for defecting?


Not from Estonia, at least.
 
2022-09-24 10:08:00 PM  
There are still the million-odd Ukrainians being held hostage in Russia.   The worse it gets for Putin, the worse it will get for them.
 
2022-09-24 10:08:54 PM  

Jesus McSordid: He's also making it illegal to surrender so chessmate, traitors.


How will he know who surrendered vs. just died in the middle of farking nowhere like the 50+k he's already sent to die all over Ukraine?
 
2022-09-24 10:09:24 PM  
One problem with going AWOL: your family back home might pay the price.
 
2022-09-24 10:10:27 PM  

Jesus McSordid: He's also making it illegal to surrender so chessmate, traitors.


Then they get sent to prison where they get recruited again.
 
2022-09-24 10:10:45 PM  

dildo tontine: vudukungfu: Hey we surrender.
Take our guns

Ha!  You think they will get guns?


Apparently recently re-issued AKs...

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2022-09-24 10:11:06 PM  
I think Putin is well on his way to.cementing his legacy as one the great military minds of the 21st century.

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2022-09-24 10:11:12 PM  
I can't help but think even the MAGA Hoverround Brigade could perform better as a cohesive fighting force than the Russian trashcan troopers.

/ You know why all of that reactive armor was cardboard? Hookers and blow ain't cheap especially for the Kremlin.
 
2022-09-24 10:11:42 PM  

TheSubjunctive: dildo tontine: vudukungfu: Hey we surrender.
Take our guns

Ha!  You think they will get guns?

Apparently recently re-issued AKs...

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An AK-1847
 
2022-09-24 10:12:12 PM  
Be sure to shoot your officers on your way out.
 
2022-09-24 10:13:25 PM  

kevinatilusa: dammit just give me a login: Will those guys get the citizenship+bonus for defecting?

Not from Estonia, at least.


I don't have the link handy but Ukraine issued a statement encouraging Russian recruits to surrender but went out of their way to mention that under Geneva Conventions they can't be forced to return to Russia, basically offering them a one-way ticket out.
 
2022-09-24 10:14:32 PM  
The Kremlin defended the practice earlier this week, saying "it isn't against the law".

'Our actions don't violate the laws that we ourselves write' isn't the robust defence it may seem to be.
 
2022-09-24 10:14:35 PM  

dammit just give me a login: Will those guys get the citizenship+bonus for defecting?


Doubtful.  A lot of people from totalitarian realms cling to their former homelands the same way a battered spouse clings to the abusive spouse they have run away from a dozen times.  "This time they've changed!" they'll say as they ask for a Russian Passport and vote for candidates who are openly in Russia's (Or China's, or North Korea's) pocket.  The language barrier doesn't help either.  Ukraine and every Russian neighbor has dealt with this recently.
 
2022-09-24 10:15:55 PM  

TheBigJerk: dammit just give me a login: Will those guys get the citizenship+bonus for defecting?

Doubtful.  A lot of people from totalitarian realms cling to their former homelands the same way a battered spouse clings to the abusive spouse they have run away from a dozen times.  "This time they've changed!" they'll say as they ask for a Russian Passport and vote for candidates who are openly in Russia's (Or China's, or North Korea's) pocket.  The language barrier doesn't help either.  Ukraine and every Russian neighbor has dealt with this recently.


Living in South Florida, this is my take on why Cubans and Venezuelans love Trump/GOP. They worship what they knew before, thinking that it's "freedom."
 
2022-09-24 10:18:37 PM  

Mister Buttons: Jesus McSordid: He's also making it illegal to surrender so chessmate, traitors.

How will he know who surrendered vs. just died in the middle of farking nowhere like the 50+k he's already sent to die all over Ukraine?


Sad thing about war, every prisoner is a bargaining chip. If you pull off your cheecky sneeky surrendur...y, they will be saying "hey, we caputed Russian Dudemanski".

And when you get out of POW jail, people will be looking for you.
 
2022-09-24 10:19:31 PM  

Stud Gerbil: There are still the million-odd Ukrainians being held hostage in Russia.   The worse it gets for Putin, the worse it will get for them.


Nothing anybody can do about that, short of assassinating Putin.

Or are you suggesting Ukraine surrender to genocide?  That's the alternative.  Pick one: 1) Continue fighting, winning, and accept that the price of freedom is that Putin will do what he will do, or 2) surrender, and have every single male slaughtered, and all women used as comfort wives for Russian occupiers?

Or you can STFU and stop concern-trolling.
 
2022-09-24 10:21:37 PM  
Good. An uprising is what it will take to eliminate pootypoo.
 
2022-09-24 10:22:35 PM  

king of vegas: TheBigJerk: dammit just give me a login: Will those guys get the citizenship+bonus for defecting?

Doubtful.  A lot of people from totalitarian realms cling to their former homelands the same way a battered spouse clings to the abusive spouse they have run away from a dozen times.  "This time they've changed!" they'll say as they ask for a Russian Passport and vote for candidates who are openly in Russia's (Or China's, or North Korea's) pocket.  The language barrier doesn't help either.  Ukraine and every Russian neighbor has dealt with this recently.

Living in South Florida, this is my take on why Cubans and Venezuelans love Trump/GOP. They worship what they knew before, thinking that it's "freedom."


Superlatives aren't adjectives.

People who are LESS right wing than a totalitarian regime aren't necessarily leftists.

Kind of like how Putin was demonstrably SMARTER than TFG side by side, but this Ukraine war... *shakes head*
 
2022-09-24 10:23:02 PM  

Phil McKraken: TheSubjunctive: dildo tontine: vudukungfu: Hey we surrender.
Take our guns

Ha!  You think they will get guns?

Apparently recently re-issued AKs...

[Fark user image 352x640]

An AK-1847


They may get guns. No one said they'd be functional.

But they still be used as clubs, so they can beat their CO before surrendering.
 
2022-09-24 10:23:17 PM  
Sounds like its time to start picking up bricks and bats and going after the police enforcing this shiat.
 
2022-09-24 10:24:50 PM  
FTFA: The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military.

I bet they're lining up around the block for THAT offer...
 
2022-09-24 10:25:02 PM  
These conscripts need to turn their rifles on their officers.
 
2022-09-24 10:25:49 PM  
I assume that "Мудак" means something like dickhead
 
2022-09-24 10:26:14 PM  

Emposter: FTFA: The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military.

I bet they're lining up around the block for THAT offer...


Even if someone were foolish enough to take that deal, Putin knows they'd never survive long enough.
 
2022-09-24 10:26:46 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Superlatives aren't adjectives.


... what? Yes they are. Or they can be. Adjectives can absolutely be comparative or superlative. Blue, bluer, bluest. Those are all adjectives.
 
2022-09-24 10:26:50 PM  
This is going to be a tricky game of Red Rover, getting far enough from your own lines to get neither fragged nor shot by Ukrainians.
 
2022-09-24 10:27:04 PM  

InfoFreako: Sounds like its time to start picking up bricks and bats and going after the police enforcing this shiat.


What do you think they are, as brave as 20 year old Iranian women?
 
2022-09-24 10:28:07 PM  

Emposter: FTFA: The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military.

I bet they're lining up around the block for THAT offer...


Hopefully, it will attract all the Qnutters and Magats.  Siberia would be a great place for them to live out their Christo-Fascist fantasies.
 
2022-09-24 10:29:42 PM  

TomDooley: Emposter: FTFA: The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military.

I bet they're lining up around the block for THAT offer...

Hopefully, it will attract all the Qnutters and Magats.  Siberia would be a great place for them to live out their Christo-Fascist fantasies.


That would actually be kind of hilarious.
 
2022-09-24 10:31:56 PM  

Emposter: TomDooley: Emposter: FTFA: The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military.

I bet they're lining up around the block for THAT offer...

Hopefully, it will attract all the Qnutters and Magats.  Siberia would be a great place for them to live out their Christo-Fascist fantasies.

That would actually be kind of hilarious.



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Here's your chance, dickheads.
 
2022-09-24 10:34:20 PM  
On Friday, the Kremlin revealed a host of occupations it said will be exempt from conscription aimed at boosting its war effort in Ukraine.
IT workers, bankers and journalists working for state media will escape the "partial mobilisation" announced by President Putin on Wednesday.


Surprise, surprise. Middle class, white collar workers are exempt. This is just the working class being sent to die. Same as it ever was.
 
2022-09-24 10:34:21 PM  
Where's Inglix?  Shouldn't she be here blaming the kids?
/also, Ron DeSanits sucks
 
2022-09-24 10:34:58 PM  

vudukungfu: Hey we surrender.
Take our guns


Mmmmm, don't think Ukraine would want 'em... Have you seen the rusted as fark AKs they've been giving the conscripts?
 
2022-09-24 10:36:45 PM  

Stud Gerbil: There are still the million-odd Ukrainians being held hostage in Russia.   The worse it gets for Putin, the worse it will get for them.


Which will be Putin's fault and Putin's alone. Once you bow to threats of that nature, you will be plagued with hostage situations far more frequently.
 
2022-09-24 10:38:19 PM  

dustman81: Emposter: TomDooley: Emposter: FTFA: The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military.

I bet they're lining up around the block for THAT offer...

Hopefully, it will attract all the Qnutters and Magats.  Siberia would be a great place for them to live out their Christo-Fascist fantasies.

That would actually be kind of hilarious.


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Here's your chance, dickheads.


For real. Were these nozzles ever ID'd? They should be encouraged by everyone they meet to get the fark out of the country.
 
2022-09-24 10:39:06 PM  

dustman81: Emposter: TomDooley: Emposter: FTFA: The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military.

I bet they're lining up around the block for THAT offer...

Hopefully, it will attract all the Qnutters and Magats.  Siberia would be a great place for them to live out their Christo-Fascist fantasies.

That would actually be kind of hilarious.


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Here's your chance, dickheads.


A beet, polonium, and lead diet should help them get in fightin' shape.
 
2022-09-24 10:39:10 PM  

Shaggy_C: On Friday, the Kremlin revealed a host of occupations it said will be exempt from conscription aimed at boosting its war effort in Ukraine.
IT workers, bankers and journalists working for state media will escape the "partial mobilisation" announced by President Putin on Wednesday.

Surprise, surprise. Middle class, white collar workers are exempt. This is just the working class being sent to die. Same as it ever was.


And Grandma with the bad hip. Cream of the crop.
 
2022-09-24 10:41:29 PM  

austerity101: leeksfromchichis: Superlatives aren't adjectives.

... what? Yes they are. Or they can be. Adjectives can absolutely be comparative or superlative. Blue, bluer, bluest. Those are all adjectives.


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2022-09-24 10:41:55 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: I assume that "Мудак" means something like dickhead


Close! Mudak, or asshole.
 
2022-09-24 10:43:23 PM  

dustman81: Phil McKraken: TheSubjunctive: dildo tontine: vudukungfu: Hey we surrender.
Take our guns

Ha!  You think they will get guns?

Apparently recently re-issued AKs...

[Fark user image 352x640]

An AK-1847

They may get guns. No one said they'd be functional.

But they still be used as clubs, so they can beat their CO before surrendering.


The soldier in front gets the gun.  The soldier behind gets the bayonet.
 
2022-09-24 10:44:14 PM  

Stud Gerbil: There are still the million-odd Ukrainians being held hostage in Russia.   The worse it gets for Putin, the worse it will get for them.


The the world needs to have a similar rule.  The worse it gets for the Ukrainians the worse it gets for Putin.  With exponential escalation.  If even another Ukrainian is harmed, have Biden nuke Moscow.
 
2022-09-24 10:45:29 PM  

Jesus McSordid: He's also making it illegal to surrender so chessmate, traitors.


I can't wait for these "300,000" recruits to find out they'll be marching for miles in the winter with no winter clothing and no food. Let's see how well their army holds out.
Or maybe he won't bother to train them and just drop them off at the border out the back of a Van.
 
2022-09-24 10:48:44 PM  

Shaggy_C: On Friday, the Kremlin revealed a host of occupations it said will be exempt from conscription aimed at boosting its war effort in Ukraine.
IT workers, bankers and journalists working for state media will escape the "partial mobilisation" announced by President Putin on Wednesday.

Surprise, surprise. Middle class, white collar workers are exempt. This is just the working class being sent to die. Same as it ever was.

IT workers


Read: Troll farm staffers
 
2022-09-24 10:50:44 PM  
"The president also signed orders granting Russian citizenship to any foreign national who signs up to serve a year in the country's military."

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2022-09-24 10:51:26 PM  

dustman81: Phil McKraken: TheSubjunctive: dildo tontine: vudukungfu: Hey we surrender.
Take our guns

Ha!  You think they will get guns?

Apparently recently re-issued AKs...

[Fark user image 352x640]

An AK-1847

They may get guns. No one said they'd be functional.

But they still be used as clubs, so they can beat their CO before surrendering.


At this point, I am 100% certain I have better kit in my safe and hunting closet than the Russian recruits are getting.  Granted, I need to drop a few pounds for my armor to provide the right coverage.  (It would've been hopeless to even go on a year ago, but I've dropped 90 lbs since then. Still need to drop another 70 to be at my "fighting" weight, but at least the armor go on now.)  Also, my helmet is reallyold, a PASGT that has been converted to ACH style pads.  I don't have all the proper LBE either, just pouches on a plate carrier and a belt, and very little of it matches.  Just a mix of coyote, olive, and ABU pattern stuff.  Still, it would work and would be better than what most Russians are likely getting. More importantly, I'm certain my AK would actually work and that my rounds are good.  I'd need to get some decent NVGs, but the extra weight around the middle and 15 years of age would be my biggest hinderances.  Of course, from what I've seen, the Russians don't seem to care at all about that.
 
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