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(Some Opportunist)   Fan who caught Albert Pujols' 700th home run apparently thinks someone will pay 1998 prices for a 2022 keepsake   (dodgersnation.com) divider line
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2022-09-24 3:44:26 PM  
Albert is right.  The ball is a souvineer, and the fan has every right to keep it.  But it sure is a dick-move.

/congrats to one of baseball's best hitters.  #700
 
2022-09-24 4:46:38 PM  
"Albert Pujols said the fan that caught his ball can keep it if he wants. He said its a souvenir. He has the bat, the jersey, the hat, etc. He said it's up to the fan if they want to keep it or give it to him, but he has no problem if he keeps it."

If Pujols doesn't care, why all the outrage?
 
2022-09-24 5:29:46 PM  
Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.
 
2022-09-24 7:55:56 PM  
Lol fark that. Guy catches six figures and people think he should just... be nice to the guy with hundreds of millions of dollars instead of take the cash?
 
2022-09-24 7:57:48 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Albert is right.  The ball is a souvineer, and the fan has every right to keep it.  But it sure is a dick-move.

/congrats to one of baseball's best hitters.  #700


Yeah he's right.

Now that the fan has the ball, he didn't hit his 700th homerun.
 
2022-09-24 7:58:42 PM  

NotCodger: "Albert Pujols said the fan that caught his ball can keep it if he wants. He said its a souvenir. He has the bat, the jersey, the hat, etc. He said it's up to the fan if they want to keep it or give it to him, but he has no problem if he keeps it."

If Pujols doesn't care, why all the outrage?


because the guy who wrote this seems to know somehow that even though that's what pujols has said about all the balls lately, deep down he really really wants that ball...

Albert said that but you can feel that he truly didn't mean it.
 
2022-09-24 7:59:34 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Albert is right.  The ball is a souvineer, and the fan has every right to keep it.  But it sure is a dick-move.

/congrats to one of baseball's best hitters.  #700


Fark that. Pujols has hundreds of millions of dollars. The team has billions. They could pay the fan a million or two for the ball without breaking a sweat.

Why is the fan a dick for wanting a fair share?
 
2022-09-24 8:00:07 PM  

KC Dutchman: Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.


Wait... you think #701 is going to make #700 worthless? Seriously?

I'd be surprised if the balls pitched to Pujols weren't marked in some way, just like they are doing with the balls pitched to Judge. The #700 ball will be far more than worthless in 6 months. 6 figures more. At least. I'm with Dafatone on this one.
 
2022-09-24 8:04:20 PM  

dartben: Sin_City_Superhero: Albert is right.  The ball is a souvineer, and the fan has every right to keep it.  But it sure is a dick-move.

/congrats to one of baseball's best hitters.  #700

Fark that. Pujols has hundreds of millions of dollars. The team has billions. They could pay the fan a million or two for the ball without breaking a sweat.

Why is the fan a dick for wanting a fair share?


it's a ball, it'd be nice to have but he probably has enough souvenirs to fill multiple rooms.  no player gives that much of a shiat to pay 5 figures probably.  ask 7 figures and he'll get laughed out of town

rich collectors are the only ones paying anything near what you seem to think is the fair price
 
2022-09-24 8:11:32 PM  
Keep the ball, but don't be a penis head about it. If it was me, I'd happily give it for some nice shwag, and a possible meet and greet. I'd probably wind up losing the ball anyway.
 
2022-09-24 8:15:04 PM  
Now will he have to pay some sort of tax on the ball even if they don't sell it?
 
2022-09-24 8:19:12 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: dartben: Sin_City_Superhero: Albert is right.  The ball is a souvineer, and the fan has every right to keep it.  But it sure is a dick-move.

/congrats to one of baseball's best hitters.  #700

Fark that. Pujols has hundreds of millions of dollars. The team has billions. They could pay the fan a million or two for the ball without breaking a sweat.

Why is the fan a dick for wanting a fair share?

it's a ball, it'd be nice to have but he probably has enough souvenirs to fill multiple rooms.  no player gives that much of a shiat to pay 5 figures probably.  ask 7 figures and he'll get laughed out of town

rich collectors are the only ones paying anything near what you seem to think is the fair price


The point is that the fan isn't a dick for keeping it and wanting to sell it to a rich collector and get paid rather than giving it to Pujols for a relatively worthless autographed bat or jersey. If Pujols or the team really cared, they'd pony up just like the rich collector.
 
2022-09-24 8:20:36 PM  

Mole Man: Now will he have to pay some sort of tax on the ball even if they don't sell it?


No, because it's unrealized gains until it sells.
 
2022-09-24 8:29:48 PM  

tedduque: KC Dutchman: Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.

Wait... you think #701 is going to make #700 worthless? Seriously?

I'd be surprised if the balls pitched to Pujols weren't marked in some way, just like they are doing with the balls pitched to Judge. The #700 ball will be far more than worthless in 6 months. 6 figures more. At least. I'm with Dafatone on this one.


Both the balls pitched to Pujols in the run-up to #700, and the balls pitched to Judge in his runup to #62, have a special marking on them that cannot be seen with the naked eye.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/sports/baseball/aaron-judge-ball-authentication.html
 
2022-09-24 8:40:06 PM  
It may be a dick move, but the fan could easily pocket a substantial sum of money for it.  Unless I was someone with a big, full retirement account and making a few hundred grand a year, I wouldn't hand it over.

Put it up for auction and probably get at least a years worth of an average salary out of it, and that's a conservative estimate.   It would be nice to give it to him, but that photo op & a season ticket next year isn't worth the hundred grand or more that you'll likely get out of that ball.  If he wants it or the hall of fame wants it, pay the ask; They both can afford it with no afterthought.

/ I was stoked to see that he hit number 700, though.
 
2022-09-24 8:50:27 PM  
Selfish.

I would gladly give it up for a meet and greet. Signed jersey and ball.

And a story I can tell to everyone until the day I die

Take it home hoping to make bank. And everyone knows you are a selfish greedy arsehole
 
2022-09-24 9:04:43 PM  
MLB teams do things for one another. If people cared that much I'd say along with anything else if the MLB, HOF, or anyone else wanted the ball that badly I'd say the league could help get the fan a few years of season tickets.
 
2022-09-24 9:10:16 PM  

KC Dutchman: Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.


I watched that game. I was wondering if this was a similar situation.

How do you go about getting the correct paperwork if you don't use the stadium/ teams?
 
2022-09-24 9:11:38 PM  
Albert Pujols could probably do one or two TV/online ads and make enough money to pay the fan AND give him autographed schwag.
 
2022-09-24 9:12:54 PM  

baron von doodle: KC Dutchman: Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.

I watched that game. I was wondering if this was a similar situation.

How do you go about getting the correct paperwork if you don't use the stadium/ teams?


That one's weird, nobody would be marking balls for a club record. Why would a fan be so obstinate in THAT case?
 
2022-09-24 9:50:59 PM  
Holy Christ on a cracker. So the two ball clubs worth billions, and the player worth millions are the poor good guys and the farker lucky enough to get ahold of a winning lottery ticket is a greedy asshole? No wonder we're farked as a society.
 
2022-09-24 9:56:49 PM  
But can this guy really sell the ball?   Unless it is authenticated by mlb, it's just a ball caught by a fan.   I have a few around the house, maybe I should claim one was hiat by Babe Ruth.   They made several fair offers.   After that, it's just "enjoy your random ball and the rest of your day".
 
2022-09-24 10:56:12 PM  

Stud Gerbil: But can this guy really sell the ball?   Unless it is authenticated by mlb, it's just a ball caught by a fan.   I have a few around the house, maybe I should claim one was hiat by Babe Ruth.   They made several fair offers.   After that, it's just "enjoy your random ball and the rest of your day".


THIS.

Why would anyone buy the ball from this guy without any autograph or authentication that it's Pujol's 700 home run ball?
 
2022-09-24 11:03:05 PM  

Stud Gerbil: But can this guy really sell the ball?   Unless it is authenticated by mlb, it's just a ball caught by a fan.   I have a few around the house, maybe I should claim one was hiat by Babe Ruth.   They made several fair offers.   After that, it's just "enjoy your random ball and the rest of your day".


browneye: Stud Gerbil: But can this guy really sell the ball?   Unless it is authenticated by mlb, it's just a ball caught by a fan.   I have a few around the house, maybe I should claim one was hiat by Babe Ruth.   They made several fair offers.   After that, it's just "enjoy your random ball and the rest of your day".

THIS.

Why would anyone buy the ball from this guy without any autograph or authentication that it's Pujol's 700 home run ball?


It's been addressed in this very thread and literally everywhere else

jake_lex: tedduque: KC Dutchman: Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.

Wait... you think #701 is going to make #700 worthless? Seriously?

I'd be surprised if the balls pitched to Pujols weren't marked in some way, just like they are doing with the balls pitched to Judge. The #700 ball will be far more than worthless in 6 months. 6 figures more. At least. I'm with Dafatone on this one.

Both the balls pitched to Pujols in the run-up to #700, and the balls pitched to Judge in his runup to #62, have a special marking on them that cannot be seen with the naked eye.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/sports/baseball/aaron-judge-ball-authentication.html

 
2022-09-24 11:05:41 PM  
Plus my understanding is that the stadium authenticates balls like this immediately.
 
2022-09-25 12:12:57 AM  

browneye: Stud Gerbil: But can this guy really sell the ball?   Unless it is authenticated by mlb, it's just a ball caught by a fan.   I have a few around the house, maybe I should claim one was hiat by Babe Ruth.   They made several fair offers.   After that, it's just "enjoy your random ball and the rest of your day".

THIS.

Why would anyone buy the ball from this guy without any autograph or authentication that it's Pujol's 700 home run ball?


They don't refuse to authenticate it just because he won't give it to Pujols.
 
2022-09-25 12:16:52 AM  

Dafatone: browneye: Stud Gerbil: But can this guy really sell the ball?   Unless it is authenticated by mlb, it's just a ball caught by a fan.   I have a few around the house, maybe I should claim one was hiat by Babe Ruth.   They made several fair offers.   After that, it's just "enjoy your random ball and the rest of your day".

THIS.

Why would anyone buy the ball from this guy without any autograph or authentication that it's Pujol's 700 home run ball?

They don't refuse to authenticate it just because he won't give it to Pujols.


Okay...I finally saw that earlier in the thread. My bad.
 
2022-09-25 4:14:16 AM  
Wait a year, then sell it. The capital gains taxes will be at the lower long term rate.
 
2022-09-25 8:16:21 AM  
I guess we have to put netting up in the outfield to avoid this topic from now on. No home run balls for anyone!!
 
2022-09-25 9:13:06 AM  

jake_lex: tedduque: KC Dutchman: Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.

Wait... you think #701 is going to make #700 worthless? Seriously?

I'd be surprised if the balls pitched to Pujols weren't marked in some way, just like they are doing with the balls pitched to Judge. The #700 ball will be far more than worthless in 6 months. 6 figures more. At least. I'm with Dafatone on this one.

Both the balls pitched to Pujols in the run-up to #700, and the balls pitched to Judge in his runup to #62, have a special marking on them that cannot be seen with the naked eye.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/sports/baseball/aaron-judge-ball-authentication.html


I can't read the paywalled link but you take the ball to fan services inside the stadium and they authenticate it and give you a certificate right then and there before you even leave the park.

I know this is the case in a lot of stadiums. Not sure if they all do this but I assume they do
 
2022-09-25 12:01:36 PM  

abhorrent1: jake_lex: tedduque: KC Dutchman: Last year, when Salvador Perez tied the club record for HRs in a season, a Cleveland fan caught HR #47 and refused to give it up claiming Salvy or others would pay up for it. Both the Royals and the Guardians told the guy that once he left the stadium without having the ball authenticated, it was essentially worthless. They offered him a bunch of things and an opportunity to meet Perez and get an autographed game jersey. They guy would not give it up. Two nights later, Perez hit HR #48 and the guy was left with just a souvenir. He should have taken the autographed swag.

Wait... you think #701 is going to make #700 worthless? Seriously?

I'd be surprised if the balls pitched to Pujols weren't marked in some way, just like they are doing with the balls pitched to Judge. The #700 ball will be far more than worthless in 6 months. 6 figures more. At least. I'm with Dafatone on this one.

Both the balls pitched to Pujols in the run-up to #700, and the balls pitched to Judge in his runup to #62, have a special marking on them that cannot be seen with the naked eye.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/sports/baseball/aaron-judge-ball-authentication.html

I can't read the paywalled link but you take the ball to fan services inside the stadium and they authenticate it and give you a certificate right then and there before you even leave the park.

I know this is the case in a lot of stadiums. Not sure if they all do this but I assume they do


He would have had it authenticated but the game was at Dodgers stadium, the authenticator left after the 6th inning to beat traffic.
 
2022-09-25 3:06:40 PM  
Keep. The. Ball. Until someone offers seven digits anyway. Remember what some of your favorite players said when they left as free agents? "It's a business. I gotta provide for my family." Same thing for this ball.
 
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