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(CBS News)   New developments in the 1982 Tylenol-poisoning murders that gave the nation a headache   (cbsnews.com) divider line
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2022-09-23 8:32:52 PM  
What new developments?  This whole article is just an advertisement for their upcoming series.
 
2022-09-23 8:52:18 PM  

WickerNipple: What new developments?  This whole article is just an advertisement for their upcoming series.


Yeah, this. Everyone was already pretty sure it was him, but without him admitting it or some compelling new DNA evidence, which they could have obtained years ago, they probably don't have anything new to charge him with.
 
2022-09-23 9:57:32 PM  

Lsherm: WickerNipple: What new developments?  This whole article is just an advertisement for their upcoming series.

Yeah, this. Everyone was already pretty sure it was him, but without him admitting it or some compelling new DNA evidence, which they could have obtained years ago, they probably don't have anything new to charge him with.


Much advancement in Criminal Justice has been made since the 80s. It's now standard practice to get murder convictions on purely circumstantial evidence, even without a body. Considering this guy is unlikable and looks funny, isn't wealthy or from a wealthy family, I'm sure they could get a conviction no problem
 
2022-09-24 12:32:26 AM  
Too young to remember the hysteria that gripped the Chicago area when this happened, but my parents were still leery of Tylenol many years later.
 
2022-09-24 12:55:13 AM  
I cuss out whomever did it, every time I try to rip off the shrink wrap around the bottle, fiddle with
the locking cap, pull the seal off the bottle, dig out the cotton.  Enough to give you a headache!
 
2022-09-24 12:55:48 AM  

Sawdust and Mildew: Too young to remember the hysteria that gripped the Chicago area when this happened, but my parents were still leery of Tylenol many years later.


It created the need for tamper proof medicine bottles and packaging you see today.
 
2022-09-24 12:57:01 AM  
Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.
 
2022-09-24 12:58:27 AM  

mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.


🙄
 
2022-09-24 1:02:35 AM  

mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.


Brush your teeth and exercise. You'll be fine. Cyanide-laced Tylenol?  Not so much.
 
2022-09-24 1:06:03 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Brush your teeth and exercise. You'll be fine.


Those make my head hurt.
 
2022-09-24 1:09:54 AM  

mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.


Swing and a miss
 
2022-09-24 1:30:47 AM  

mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.


Somethingsomething fun at parties
 
2022-09-24 1:37:26 AM  

mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.


I've never slowly and painfully died from cellular asphyxiation when I had a Mountain dew.
 
2022-09-24 1:52:50 AM  

mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.


So are trolls and asshats.
 
2022-09-24 1:53:09 AM  

thatboyoverthere: mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.

I've never slowly and painfully died from cellular asphyxiation when I had a Mountain dew.


I've sure as fark felt like it though.
 
2022-09-24 1:58:05 AM  

detonator: Sawdust and Mildew: Too young to remember the hysteria that gripped the Chicago area when this happened, but my parents were still leery of Tylenol many years later.

It created the need for tamper proof medicine bottles and packaging you see today.


We felt like we could trust each other to not put poison in medicine back then. It was an innocent time.
 
2022-09-24 1:58:31 AM  
Autoplay videos that respawn after you X them is about as bad as poisoned Tylenol.

Also, traditionally, poison is a chic thing.
 
2022-09-24 2:21:58 AM  
When that happened I was a 20 y/o software engineer who was hated by a 40 y/o guy for some reason.  Dude just gave me shiat every chance he got.

Anyway, I bought a bottle of Tylenol and put it on his desk.  Pissed the royal hell out of him.

Met him some 20 years later and he apologized for being a dick.  Haven't seen him since, he's probably dead now.
 
2022-09-24 2:39:21 AM  

Snotnose: When that happened I was a 20 y/o software engineer who was hated by a 40 y/o guy for some reason.  Dude just gave me shiat every chance he got.

Anyway, I bought a bottle of Tylenol and put it on his desk.  Pissed the royal hell out of him.

Met him some 20 years later and he apologized for being a dick.  Haven't seen him since, he's probably dead now.


So the Tylenol worked?
 
2022-09-24 2:49:19 AM  

cheap_thoughts: thatboyoverthere: mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.

I've never slowly and painfully died from cellular asphyxiation when I had a Mountain dew.

I've sure as fark felt like it though.


You're not supposed to snort it.
 
2022-09-24 2:57:07 AM  

wildcardjack: Autoplay videos that respawn after you X them is about as bad as poisoned Tylenol.

Also, traditionally, poison is a chic thing.


Or Russian
 
2022-09-24 3:20:20 AM  
I'm actually old enough to remember this scare
 
2022-09-24 3:21:11 AM  
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Not to be confused with Panekiller, the glass-weilding assassin.

/used to kill singles, but has recently started doing two or even three at once
 
2022-09-24 3:33:44 AM  
I had actually bought Tylenol at one of those stores a few months earlier so it was quite relevant for me.
 
2022-09-24 3:49:07 AM  
Yeah, the whole Tylenol thing ruined Halloween for YEARS.

I remember the dark, somber and frightening TV commercials after they put the tamper-evident stuff on pill bottles.

Black screen, plain text, and read very deliberately to (supposedly) calm our fears.

As if we weren't scared enough already...
 
2022-09-24 5:42:01 AM  

p51d007: I cuss out whomever did it, every time I try to rip off the shrink wrap around the bottle, fiddle with
the locking cap, pull the seal off the bottle, dig out the cotton.  Enough to give you a headache!


The cotton's got nothing to do with preventing tampering, that's just there to absorb any extra moisture in the air, I'm pretty sure?
 
2022-09-24 6:15:48 AM  
I was actually wondering about this not so long ago.

/old
 
2022-09-24 6:57:43 AM  
Yet the Sacklers are free.
 
2022-09-24 7:22:41 AM  

Felgraf: p51d007: I cuss out whomever did it, every time I try to rip off the shrink wrap around the bottle, fiddle with
the locking cap, pull the seal off the bottle, dig out the cotton.  Enough to give you a headache!

The cotton's got nothing to do with preventing tampering, that's just there to absorb any extra moisture in the air, I'm pretty sure?


The cotton is dunnage
It's to keep the pills from rattling around and breaking each other
 
2022-09-24 7:37:28 AM  
What I find so surprising is that there wasn't such a thing as tamper-proof packaging and safety seals in 1982. It's ridiculous to me that this was allowed to even happen in the first place. I say "allowed" in that there was no mechanism to prevent it from occurring, not if someone could just open up a bottle of Tylenol (or substitute your OTC product of choice) and fark with it before putting it back on the shelf. I mean, 1982 was hardly 1882.
 
2022-09-24 7:52:06 AM  
(From the redlit thread...)

CSB:

Back then, I happened to look amazingly like the sketch of the suspect. Yep, I got stopped and questioned in the LA airport. I also knew somebody who looked amazingly like the sketch of the Unibomber. Yep, he got questioned too. By the FBI.
 
2022-09-24 8:01:29 AM  
Only 4 down votes? Maybe Fark's whiney b*thx crowd needs to up their game.
 
2022-09-24 8:03:03 AM  

Loucifer: Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Brush your teeth and exercise. You'll be fine.

Those make my head hurt.


Then stop doing sit-ups under parked cars. That should help.
 
2022-09-24 8:07:54 AM  

karlandtanya: Felgraf: p51d007: I cuss out whomever did it, every time I try to rip off the shrink wrap around the bottle, fiddle with
the locking cap, pull the seal off the bottle, dig out the cotton.  Enough to give you a headache!

The cotton's got nothing to do with preventing tampering, that's just there to absorb any extra moisture in the air, I'm pretty sure?

The cotton is dunnage
It's to keep the pills from rattling around and breaking each other


I hate the feel of that when I'm pulling out of the bottle.
Don't know why reminds me of fiber glass?
 
2022-09-24 8:22:36 AM  

Coco LaFemme: What I find so surprising is that there wasn't such a thing as tamper-proof packaging and safety seals in 1982. It's ridiculous to me that this was allowed to even happen in the first place. I say "allowed" in that there was no mechanism to prevent it from occurring, not if someone could just open up a bottle of Tylenol (or substitute your OTC product of choice) and fark with it before putting it back on the shelf. I mean, 1982 was hardly 1882.


I was just 18 but I do not remember anyone being worried about stuff like that until then.
 
2022-09-24 9:25:16 AM  

eclecticman666: Don't know why reminds me of fiber glass?


They're both fibers?
 
2022-09-24 9:56:20 AM  

Coco LaFemme: What I find so surprising is that there wasn't such a thing as tamper-proof packaging and safety seals in 1982. It's ridiculous to me that this was allowed to even happen in the first place. I say "allowed" in that there was no mechanism to prevent it from occurring, not if someone could just open up a bottle of Tylenol (or substitute your OTC product of choice) and fark with it before putting it back on the shelf. I mean, 1982 was hardly 1882.


Same, it's pretty mind blowing as someone who was only two when this happened so I have no memory of unsealed medicine. In addition to potential tampering, I bet many "60 count" bottles went home containing only 50-something pills due to theft. It wasn't an innocent time; it was a naive time.
 
2022-09-24 10:00:19 AM  

AbortionsForAll: eclecticman666: Don't know why reminds me of fiber glass?

They're both fibers?


Same thing happens to me. Pulling cotton balls out of a bag of cotton balls? No problem. Pulling the ball of cotton out of a new medicine bottle? I'd swear it was insulation and have an immediate urge to scrub my hands thoroughly. I hate that feeling.
 
2022-09-24 10:02:30 AM  

cheap_thoughts: thatboyoverthere: mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.

I've never slowly and painfully died from cellular asphyxiation when I had a Mountain dew.

I've sure as fark felt like it though.


That's just the HFCS and caffeine kicking in.
 
2022-09-24 10:04:13 AM  

iToad: (From the redlit thread...)

CSB:

Back then, I happened to look amazingly like the sketch of the suspect. Yep, I got stopped and questioned in the LA airport. I also knew somebody who looked amazingly like the sketch of the Unibomber. Yep, he got questioned too. By the FBI.


Poor Weird Al.
 
2022-09-24 10:08:22 AM  

WickerNipple: What new developments?  This whole article is just an advertisement for their upcoming series.


Yep. This needs nuked from the main page.
 
2022-09-24 10:18:24 AM  

WickerNipple: What new developments?  This whole article is just an advertisement for their upcoming series.


Netflix or Hulu?
 
2022-09-24 10:23:32 AM  

mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.


Tylenol is poison.

Acetaminophen should never have gotten approval as an OTC drug.
 
2022-09-24 10:37:58 AM  
It isn't him

Random folks like to extort money when shiat like this happens
 
2022-09-24 10:50:53 AM  

scanman61: mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.

Tylenol is poison.

Acetaminophen should never have gotten approval as an OTC drug.


We need safet pain killers. Like opium, or oxycontin.
 
2022-09-24 10:52:31 AM  

Coco LaFemme: What I find so surprising is that there wasn't such a thing as tamper-proof packaging and safety seals in 1982. It's ridiculous to me that this was allowed to even happen in the first place. I say "allowed" in that there was no mechanism to prevent it from occurring, not if someone could just open up a bottle of Tylenol (or substitute your OTC product of choice) and fark with it before putting it back on the shelf. I mean, 1982 was hardly 1882.


As far as I know, Tylenol at the time had a heat sealed foam plastic seal on it, that the poisoner defeated by purchasing, and taking home the bottles and then using the foam plastic seal from a larger container to reseal the bottles.  I would not be surprised if a person who was willing to do that could not find away to defeat the current tamper-proof packaging.
 
2022-09-24 10:58:00 AM  

OkieDookie: scanman61: mistahtom: Processed refined carbs and added sugar are poisons.

Tylenol is poison.

Acetaminophen should never have gotten approval as an OTC drug.

We need safet pain killers. Like opium, or oxycontin.


We still use morphine as a painkiller, just not OTC.

Tylenol's liver toxicity is a HUGE issue.  The difference between "maximum dosage" and "there goes your liver" is two tablets.  If you've got alcohol in your system the maximum safe dosage isn't.
 
2022-09-24 11:05:30 AM  

The Exit Stencilist: It's now standard practice to get murder convictions on purely circumstantial evidence


That was SOP for all of the time we can think about now. You would be shocked (or maybe not) to check the number of criminal convictions from the 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. that were made on purely circumstantial evidence, or even single "eyewitness" identification of someone saying they saw so-and-so around the area where the robbery/burglary happened.
 
2022-09-24 11:31:52 AM  

Coco LaFemme: What I find so surprising is that there wasn't such a thing as tamper-proof packaging and safety seals in 1982. It's ridiculous to me that this was allowed to even happen in the first place. I say "allowed" in that there was no mechanism to prevent it from occurring, not if someone could just open up a bottle of Tylenol (or substitute your OTC product of choice) and fark with it before putting it back on the shelf. I mean, 1982 was hardly 1882.


Why is that hard to believe?

We buy things to put in our bodies from stores all the time. Only a small percent have tamper-proof packaging. And even the ones that do... With a minimum amount of effort you can open and reseal most, if not all, of them.

Tamper proof crap just means a bored kid can't open it in the store. A serious criminal who has access to fatal drugs is willing to devote a few hours figuring out how to get the seal off and glued back on.

And lots of food doesn't have any of that stuff at all.
 
2022-09-24 12:07:02 PM  
Lived through this at the time in Illinois.

I like to drink beer.

I do NOT take Cylenol.

///it never really worked for me anyway, aspirin seems to
 
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