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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Subby and other Utahan Farkers have a choice of voting out the known Mike Lee (no brainer) but the only viable alternative is voting for someone who claims to be unaffiliated but could turn into a Manchinema 2.0 upgrade without the quirkiness   (ksl.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Utah, United States Senate, Democratic Party, Republican Sen. Mike Lee, Voting, independent challenger Evan McMullin neck, new poll, Joe Biden  
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681 clicks; posted to Politics » on 23 Sep 2022 at 8:10 AM (9 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-23 8:12:12 AM  
When presented with a choice between choosing the lesser of two evils? Always choose less evil. Always! Not voting is a vote for evil.
 
2022-09-23 8:14:26 AM  

DocUi: When presented with a choice between choosing the lesser of two evils? Always choose less evil. Always! Not voting is a vote for evil.


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2022-09-23 8:14:51 AM  
Evan McMullin is a bit of a known quantity. Conservative for sure, but not a Trumper. So it's actually an easy decision.
 
2022-09-23 8:15:20 AM  
Lee is a trump toadie.  If you oppose autocracy it's not a dilemma.
 
2022-09-23 8:16:23 AM  
It'll be better than having Mike Lee.
 
2022-09-23 8:18:16 AM  
Vote out the devil you know.
 
2022-09-23 8:18:57 AM  
Apparently the people of Utah would rather be shot than maybe be shot.
 
2022-09-23 8:22:05 AM  
Ordinarily, I would say go with the devil you know, but Lee is a fascist traitor and co-conspirator, so I'd roll the dice on the other guy.
 
2022-09-23 8:25:33 AM  
If anyone is on the fence about whether it would be better to have McMuffin or Lee, then I don't know what to say to them other than GFY.
 
2022-09-23 8:25:39 AM  
I'LL TAKE IT! Mike Lee is the worst kind of Utahan. As bad as that Chafetts guy or that insufferable Hatch POS.
 
MFK
2022-09-23 8:26:07 AM  
It seems like a no-brainer to me.
 
2022-09-23 8:26:31 AM  
Mike Lee pushed the big lie and is an all-around piece of shiat. Anyone who'd rather have more of Mike Lee than someone who's sane but not far enough to the left should be mocked mercilessly.
 
2022-09-23 8:27:40 AM  
I go to a restaurant, hoping to order a Pastrami sandwich.  The sandwich shop says they they only have two options:

- Turkey and swiss

- A bloodthirsty starved crazed wolverine between two slices of bread

They also inform me that I can't leave without taking one, and that if I don't pick, they will pick for me.  I casually note that the restaurant employees are all wearing "Team Wolverine" shirts.

I obviously don't want the wolverine, but I also find turkey and swiss to be pretty bland, so its a hard call.
 
2022-09-23 8:30:37 AM  
Mike Lee is a seditious traitor.  If my choice is between an asshole who helped Trump try to overthrow the government, and an asshole who didn't, I know which one I'm voting for.
 
2022-09-23 8:32:33 AM  
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2022-09-23 8:34:43 AM  
If McMullin claims to be unaffiliated he's not really a valid Manchin/Sinema comparison.

If he claimed to be a Democrat, perhaps.

What people expect of him is to not be a treason weasel. Such a sad, low bar we have.
 
2022-09-23 8:44:24 AM  
Oh, sure. Wait till I move away to have a race where my vote actually might be worth something...

Signed, Utah-native lefty
 
2022-09-23 9:04:07 AM  
Always vote against Mike Lee. He is a piece of garbage.
 
2022-09-23 9:16:00 AM  
Evan McMullin will suck in a lot of ways. He will not suck in some ways.

Not sucking in some ways makes him preferable to Mike Lee, who sucks in every way conceivable.

Not really a difficult call, though I'd expect that Lee will still win.
 
2022-09-23 9:18:12 AM  

Albino Squid: Evan McMullin will suck in a lot of ways. He will not suck in some ways.

Not sucking in some ways makes him preferable to Mike Lee, who sucks in every way conceivable.

Not really a difficult call, though I'd expect that Lee will still win.


Utah is pretty weird. Last poll I saw was 36% Lee, 34% McMullin.

Ahead by 2 points with 30% undecided is not where an incumbent wants to be with 6 weeks to go.
 
2022-09-23 9:26:12 AM  
Also as bad and frustrating as Manchin and Sinema are, their GOP opponents were worse, and MoscowMitch is not majority leader.  Replacing Lee with McMullin further reduces the power of the autocracy faction.  There's also the prime opportunity to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant by flipping some Senate seats.
 
2022-09-23 9:26:53 AM  
Central Arkansas provided the most votes ever for a Libertarian candidate for US Senate - because the only alternative was Tom Cotton.  Don't feel bad about voting for the alternative to Mike Lee.
 
2022-09-23 9:28:33 AM  

LL316: Evan McMullin is a bit of a known quantity. Conservative for sure, but not a Trumper. So it's actually an easy decision.


This.

Having a conservative in the Senate instead of Mike Lee would be a big step forward. There's a reason the Dems chose not to run anyone.
 
2022-09-23 9:33:47 AM  
Yeah, McMullin will be as reliable of a GOP vote as Lee is, with the only exception being orange issues.  He's the independent who just happens to fully endorse the pre-Biglyhands GOP platform.  The whole reason there's no D candidate is that if Utah D's turned the November election into (essentially) a high-turnout GOP primary there's a much better chance of voting out Lee.
 
2022-09-23 9:33:48 AM  

OptimisticCynicism: There's a reason the Dems chose not to run anyone.


Go on.
 
2022-09-23 9:38:36 AM  

Ray_Finkle: DocUi: When presented with a choice between choosing the lesser of two evils? Always choose less evil. Always! Not voting is a vote for evil.

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2022-09-23 9:38:48 AM  

Palined Parenthood: OptimisticCynicism: There's a reason the Dems chose not to run anyone.

Go on.


McMullen ran as a spoiler against Trump on the Utah ballot. He got a respectable vote number afaik so he might have enough name recognition to unseat Lee.
 
2022-09-23 9:41:10 AM  

Palined Parenthood: OptimisticCynicism: There's a reason the Dems chose not to run anyone.

Go on.


I would assume that it's because Utah is part of dumbfarkistan, so a bad choice from Utahns is a foregone conclusion.

They are both, in reality, republicans, so they can both go fark themselves. But when it comes time to vote I'm at least trying to get rid of Lee. I doubt McMullin will be meaningfully better, but he'd have a damn hard time being worse.
 
2022-09-23 9:45:46 AM  
After what they did with our congressional districts I thought voting would be a be a completely pointless but important act of protest. With McMullin on the ballot it's now only *mostly* pointless, so that's nice.
 
2022-09-23 9:56:16 AM  

Albino Squid: Evan McMullin will suck in a lot of ways. He will not suck in some ways.

Not sucking in some ways makes him preferable to Mike Lee, who sucks in every way conceivable.

Not really a difficult call, though I'd expect that Lee will still win.


This.  McMullin isn't a Trump sucking treasonweasel, which immediately makes him infinitely better than Mike Lee.

This poll aside, I would be truly shocked if Lee doesn't win by a very comfortable margin.  Once you get outside Salt Lake proper, the majority of Utahns only qualification for voting for a particular candidate is that they have an "R" by their name.
 
2022-09-23 10:11:48 AM  

Gratch: Albino Squid: Evan McMullin will suck in a lot of ways. He will not suck in some ways.

Not sucking in some ways makes him preferable to Mike Lee, who sucks in every way conceivable.

Not really a difficult call, though I'd expect that Lee will still win.

This.  McMullin isn't a Trump sucking treasonweasel, which immediately makes him infinitely better than Mike Lee.

This poll aside, I would be truly shocked if Lee doesn't win by a very comfortable margin.  Once you get outside Salt Lake proper, the majority of Utahns only qualification for voting for a particular candidate is that they have an "R" by their name.


I could see McMullin getting within 10 points or thereabouts, which would be the smallest margin in a Utah Senate election since 1976. Utah just isn't a competitive environment for anyone left of Genghis Khan.
 
2022-09-23 10:43:20 AM  
Subby here. I agree with you'all ... just hate having zero representation here as a liberal. Used to be my district was a Dem but the farking shiatheads couldn't have that so gerrymandered the libs to make sure we get zero voice.
 
2022-09-23 12:32:39 PM  
I'm holding my nose and voting for McMullin because fark Mike Lee.
 
2022-09-23 4:25:45 PM  

OptimisticCynicism: Palined Parenthood: OptimisticCynicism: There's a reason the Dems chose not to run anyone.

Go on.

McMullen ran as a spoiler against Trump on the Utah ballot. He got a respectable vote number afaik so he might have enough name recognition to unseat Lee.


Ah that's right; I remember now. Thank you.
 
2022-09-23 7:22:55 PM  

Gratch: Albino Squid: Evan McMullin will suck in a lot of ways. He will not suck in some ways.

Not sucking in some ways makes him preferable to Mike Lee, who sucks in every way conceivable.

Not really a difficult call, though I'd expect that Lee will still win.

This.  McMullin isn't a Trump sucking treasonweasel, which immediately makes him infinitely better than Mike Lee.

This poll aside, I would be truly shocked if Lee doesn't win by a very comfortable margin.  Once you get outside Salt Lake proper, the majority of Utahns only qualification for voting for a particular candidate is that they have an "R" by their name.


The R stands for Recommend.
 
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