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(MSN)   Apparently we all do fark-all at work on Fridays. New study shows that there is no loss of productivity from workers working a 4-day week rather than a 5-day one   (msn.com) divider line
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2022-09-22 2:15:50 PM  
Yes.  But that is one less day the control freaks will have you there to watch over.
 
2022-09-22 2:19:07 PM  
Not just Fridays, subby.
 
2022-09-22 2:22:11 PM  
um, so if we just prove a lemma showing that you can just cram your tasks on day N into the previous N-1 days, by induction a 0-day work week is equally productive as 5?
 
2022-09-22 2:24:09 PM  

proteus_b: um, so if we just prove a lemma showing that you can just cram your tasks on day N into the previous N-1 days, by induction a 0-day work week is equally productive as 5?


That's red talk. Back to work, helot.
 
2022-09-22 2:24:44 PM  

hobnail: Not just Fridays, subby.


Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.
 
2022-09-22 2:24:50 PM  
When I worked in an office, me and some other supervisors would go out to lunch on Friday. This entailed getting really high, spending an hour or two eating and then staggering back into work to surf the internet and play computer games til 5.
 
2022-09-22 2:26:43 PM  
My slacking isn't particular to any day of the week, but I have noticed my email intake on Fridays drops to near zero.
 
2022-09-22 2:27:19 PM  
Yes, but in America you can't let workers think they have a life.
 
2022-09-22 2:27:32 PM  
Sure lets just shut down all the factories for the weekend

I'm sure shutting down machinery that is made to run 24/7 , and takes days to restart will do nothing to the supply chain

Oh
they mean white collar workers
Nevermind.
 
2022-09-22 2:28:10 PM  
Does Fark count as work?
 
2022-09-22 2:28:17 PM  
Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.
 
2022-09-22 2:28:17 PM  
As a job creator, I don't feel comfortable with the idea of the labor units spend another day every week away from their duty. All that time away from their hot desks might cause them to lose focus and thing about other things than what's best for the company. That's a risk I'm not willing to take.
 
2022-09-22 2:29:01 PM  
So I can start not working a day earlier
 
2022-09-22 2:29:09 PM  
I don't know who these people are, I vividly remember working diligently M-F.  But there was something else that always made me wonder...

In State employment, a short week of 4 days due to a holiday was no time to get anything accomplished, as everyone knew there just weren't enough days in the week to get anything substantial done, so those weeks were just for catching up on paperwork.
 
2022-09-22 2:29:27 PM  
My company instituted a no-meetings-Friday-afternoon thing. The idea was to allow people to focus and catch up on work. Everyone just farks off as near as I can tell. Oh but not ME!! No, no, I work during that time. Yeah, that's it....work
 
2022-09-22 2:30:25 PM  
Yeah, but there's always the asshole that calls you Friday at 4:50 p.m. about something they knew about since Tuesday and needs it now.
 
2022-09-22 2:32:09 PM  

danvon: Yeah, but there's always the asshole that calls you Friday at 4:50 p.m. about something they knew about since Tuesday and needs it now.


Friday afternoon shiat dump. I swear people due that just because they're sadists with power.
 
2022-09-22 2:32:14 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.


As an accountant that stayed the fark away from that shiat, it was more the 80 hour work weeks that turned me away. No thanks.
 
2022-09-22 2:32:30 PM  
Yeah, Read Only Friday should have made that a give away.
 
2022-09-22 2:33:29 PM  
i can attest to this.

the real question is can US workers afford a 3-day weekend?
i guess that depends on how much you make and how much you party.

wait, are they not getting paid still for that Friday?
 
2022-09-22 2:34:08 PM  
certainly true here in germany. we work till about lunch time, then go to lunch, then go back to our desks and pretend to look busy for 2hrs then go home around 330.
 
2022-09-22 2:34:33 PM  
are they can't not still getting still not paid for that missed Friday still?
 
2022-09-22 2:35:41 PM  

Pedal Pedal: Red Shirt Blues: Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.

As an accountant that stayed the fark away from that shiat, it was more the 80 hour work weeks that turned me away. No thanks.


Well they kind of have tried to lay off that noise. We have lost so many people in the past 2 years. Some of them opted out of accounting. Partner in charge told me if I'm sick of tax to talk to him. They are willing to align me with another group. They're desperate for people.
 
2022-09-22 2:36:16 PM  

danvon: Yeah, but there's always the asshole that calls you Friday at 4:50 p.m. about something they knew about since Tuesday and needs it now.


You must work in legal.
 
2022-09-22 2:37:16 PM  
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2022-09-22 2:37:29 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Pedal Pedal: Red Shirt Blues: Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.

As an accountant that stayed the fark away from that shiat, it was more the 80 hour work weeks that turned me away. No thanks.

Well they kind of have tried to lay off that noise. We have lost so many people in the past 2 years. Some of them opted out of accounting. Partner in charge told me if I'm sick of tax to talk to him. They are willing to align me with another group. They're desperate for people.


I think a better solution would be to look at accounting as a whole and chop the insane amounts of always growing busy work. I work at a city nowadays and every year GASB adds more and more garbage that needs to be done. Eventually as a profession we will all burn out.
 
2022-09-22 2:41:13 PM  

Pedal Pedal: Red Shirt Blues: Pedal Pedal: Red Shirt Blues: Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.

As an accountant that stayed the fark away from that shiat, it was more the 80 hour work weeks that turned me away. No thanks.

Well they kind of have tried to lay off that noise. We have lost so many people in the past 2 years. Some of them opted out of accounting. Partner in charge told me if I'm sick of tax to talk to him. They are willing to align me with another group. They're desperate for people.

I think a better solution would be to look at accounting as a whole and chop the insane amounts of always growing busy work. I work at a city nowadays and every year GASB adds more and more garbage that needs to be done. Eventually as a profession we will all burn out.


I'm sort of hemmed in retirement wise. The longer you stay the more they kick in for your retirement. I'm fully vested and between firms kick in and mine I'm putting close to 40K a year to retirement with ten years to go.
 
2022-09-22 2:42:13 PM  
Work? What am I, a farmer?
 
2022-09-22 2:47:58 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.


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Get into industry or government before you die.
 
2022-09-22 2:48:42 PM  

Father_Jack: certainly true here in germany. we work till about lunch time, then go to lunch, then go back to our desks and pretend to look busy for 2hrs then go home around 330.


Ukraine 'foiled' a massive hack of their electrical systems this way back in the spring. Russian hackers had set the malware up so it would knock out a bunch of important substations, while simultaneously taking over all of the worker terminals so that they would be unable to fix it.

Problem was that the malware was scheduled to execute late on a Friday afternoon. Most of the workers had left early, as was custom, so their terminals were off and unaffected.

We can thus conclude that dicking around before leaving early on a Friday is a massive societal benefit.
 
2022-09-22 2:49:59 PM  

shinji3i: Red Shirt Blues: Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.

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Get into industry or government before you die.


LOL. It's like that one Dead Kennedy song with the refrain "When will you crack? When will you cracK". I think it was well paid scientist.
 
2022-09-22 2:50:37 PM  

Isitoveryet: i can attest to this.

the real question is can US workers afford a 3-day weekend?
i guess that depends on how much you make and how much you party.

wait, are they not getting paid still for that Friday?


Well in the US they would do it by turning everyone into part time workers and only pay the equivalent of 60% of your wage and be able to deny health care coverage, so no, no one in the US can afford anything nice.

This plan was 100% pay for 80% time. As in, your pay didn't change, your work did to 4x8. As in, the right way. No, 4x10 is not the right way.
 
2022-09-22 2:51:41 PM  

proteus_b: um, so if we just prove a lemma showing that you can just cram your tasks on day N into the previous N-1 days, by induction a 0-day work week is equally productive as 5?


You are wanting a derivative of Parkinson's Law:

Parkinson's Law is the old adage that work expands to fill the time allotted for its completion.

The term was first coined by Cyril Northcote Parkinson in a humorous essay he wrote for "The Economist" in 1955. He shares the story of a woman whose only task in a day is to send a postcard - a task which would take a busy person approximately three minutes. But the woman spends an hour finding the card, another half hour looking for her glasses, 90 minutes writing the card, 20 minutes deciding whether or not to take an umbrella along on her walk to the mailbox ... and on and on until her day is filled. Read his original article here.
 
2022-09-22 2:53:16 PM  

Hyjamon: He shares the story of a woman whose only task in a day is to send a postcard - a task which would take a busy person approximately three minutes. But the woman spends an hour finding the card, another half hour looking for her glasses, 90 minutes writing the card, 20 minutes deciding whether or not to take an umbrella along on her walk to the mailbox ... and on and on until her day is filled.


So you're saying that, pre-Covid, someone was able to do all of these things in a single day?!?
 
2022-09-22 2:55:45 PM  
It's obvious to anyone who has ever worked in an office.

Unless your working in a job that has measured production output, you really don't work 40 hours a week.  It's a game we play with management where they pretend to know what we're doing, and we pretend to be "busy" all the time.

It's pointless.
 
2022-09-22 2:56:29 PM  

KodosZardoz: When I worked in an office, me and some other supervisors would go out to lunch on Friday. This entailed getting really high, spending an hour or two eating and then staggering back into work to surf the internet and play computer games til 5.


Just yesterday my new boss wanted to "treat" me to a lunch with him and my admin assistant as a show of appreciation.

It will not involve anything fun as you mention and I am dreading it. Hopefully this will fall off his radar like other items and initiatives he is always starting but no follow thru.

Having an awkward lunch with someone I have nothing in common with and I think is incompetent is not quite the treat he thinks it is.
 
2022-09-22 2:59:02 PM  
All that means is management will fire 1 out of 5 employees and split the workload
 
2022-09-22 2:59:16 PM  

stevenvictx: Sure lets just shut down all the factories for the weekend

I'm sure shutting down machinery that is made to run 24/7 , and takes days to restart will do nothing to the supply chain

Oh
they mean white collar workers
Nevermind.


I don't understand this sentiment.

Are individual factory workers on the floor 24/7 as well? or are there different sets of people who work some days/times that make sure there is 24/7 coverage? This can still apply to the second situation.
 
2022-09-22 2:59:50 PM  
This doesn't help anyone who works hourly as they need those extra hours for a full paycheck.
 
2022-09-22 3:01:09 PM  

Hyjamon: KodosZardoz: When I worked in an office, me and some other supervisors would go out to lunch on Friday. This entailed getting really high, spending an hour or two eating and then staggering back into work to surf the internet and play computer games til 5.

Just yesterday my new boss wanted to "treat" me to a lunch with him and my admin assistant as a show of appreciation.

It will not involve anything fun as you mention and I am dreading it. Hopefully this will fall off his radar like other items and initiatives he is always starting but no follow thru.

Having an awkward lunch with someone I have nothing in common with and I think is incompetent is not quite the treat he thinks it is.


Sounds like our employee appreciation food truck lunch here next week. I already scheduled a real doctor visit during it to get out early.
 
2022-09-22 3:02:43 PM  

danvon: Yeah, but there's always the asshole that calls you Friday at 4:50 p.m. about something they knew about since Tuesday and needs it now.


had bosses that would do that when they were on business trips to make sure everyone was still in the office at 5 min to close on Friday.

/there was no foot traffic for this business
//I quit while they were on a business trip in spite
///I was supposed to have a conversation with their admin about a promotion that Friday, instead I left early and had a friend deliver the resignation note on Monday.
 
2022-09-22 3:04:33 PM  
Quizzical Memo your "boss" asked you to proofread is full of strange punctuations and riddled with typos...

/I put on my Roeb and Wizard Hat
 
2022-09-22 3:04:35 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: shinji3i: Red Shirt Blues: Ugghh. I work in public accounting. No way for us. There is a growing shortage of CPA's. The industry didn't catch on that people don't want a 5 year major that can't compete with starting salaries in tech. I'd think about jumoing firms but it's the same all over.

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Get into industry or government before you die.

LOL. It's like that one Dead Kennedy song with the refrain "When will you crack? When will you cracK". I think it was well paid scientist.


I'm a FARKer so I don't read all the comments before posting things. I stand by the .gif after reading your replies but glad you're in a spot you're comfortable with and that the public sector is trying to be a little less shiatty. Hooray for when supply & demand works out for the worker!
 
2022-09-22 3:06:04 PM  
You could fill Ft. Knox with the amount of gold bricking I do on Fridays.
 
2022-09-22 3:07:04 PM  
new york dolls seven day weekend
Youtube xy52JgJPaiE
 
2022-09-22 3:08:09 PM  
Seriously though, I do have lots of work on Friday because it's a popular day to schedule as the last day, and usually when we notice someone quit during the week, so I lots of stuff to do tidying up the remains.
 
2022-09-22 3:08:12 PM  

Isitoveryet: are they can't not still getting still not paid for that missed Friday still?


are you okay.

Do you still smell toast still?
 
2022-09-22 3:08:28 PM  
POETS Day

Piss Off Early, Tomorrow's Saturday
 
2022-09-22 3:12:53 PM  
Hahaha, there's nothing like all the alerts firing off at 4:45pm on a Friday, Or your favorite account manager stopping by the office at 4:30 with that frown you know well, and you can predict what's coming out of their mouth before you hear it.

Either way, you know full well this is turning into a 10-12 hour day.  That's about one of every three Fridays for me of late.
 
2022-09-22 3:14:45 PM  

proteus_b: Hyjamon: He shares the story of a woman whose only task in a day is to send a postcard - a task which would take a busy person approximately three minutes. But the woman spends an hour finding the card, another half hour looking for her glasses, 90 minutes writing the card, 20 minutes deciding whether or not to take an umbrella along on her walk to the mailbox ... and on and on until her day is filled.

So you're saying that, pre-Covid, someone was able to do all of these things in a single day?!?


Cannot remember where I ran across this story, but it has stuck with me.

"I was working as a temp for a company and they wanted me to do some data entry in Excel. Take items from Column A and put them in Column B. So I highlighted the data and copy/pasted into the other cells. The bosses jaws dropped. Apparently the secretary that was out would type them all individually and would take the entire day to complete."
 
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