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(Fox News)   Legendary "Black Ghost" 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T SE from Detroit street racing scene added to National Historic Vehicle Register at the U.S. Library of Congress; resurrected by Dodge with a limited run of 800 horsepower tribute cars   (foxnews.com) divider line
    More: Cool, Dodge, Muscle car, Dodge Charger R, Chrysler Hemi engine, Dodge Challenger, Dodge Super Bee, infamous muscle car, Black Ghost  
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2022-09-22 12:43:43 PM  
ICE cars are going out with a bang.  Everybody wants the most powerful one available.  And the bang will when they plow into other cars and people leaving cars and coffee.
 
2022-09-22 12:59:20 PM  
"Uh...yeah, it's a tribute."

"How is it a tribute? I seems to lack every single defining detail of the original."

"............We painted it the same color."

"Genius."
 
2022-09-22 1:48:57 PM  
I'll take your word for it subs.

Not clicking on Shiat "News."
 
2022-09-22 2:08:50 PM  
There is only one legendary hemi, and it was owned by this guy

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2022-09-22 4:36:40 PM  
NOPE!
Until they recreate the old body molds the re-releases just suck. There's nothing that sets them apart for really makes them special aside from some crappy badging.
 
2022-09-22 4:38:41 PM  

bloobeary: "How is it a tribute? I seems to lack every single defining detail of the original."


Subby here. Name checks out, etc. It's a magnificent tribute that outclasses the original.

The original Hemi engine was not that great for street use. Made for sale in public cars to homologate, it was detuned. The engine was every bit as heavy and large as the race engine, but compression was 2.25 points lower, the cam was lower-lift, and cast iron exhaust manifolds in place of tube headers. The cars with the engine were expensive, rare, and anyone who wanted a more useable car bought the 440 RB engine or even the 383 B engine were more than enough power for street use. Production costs of the old Hemi engine were high and the cylinder heads were about 25% heavier than a normal wedge head. It was just not that great an engine as people remember.

The new Hemi engine is a masterpiece of engineering, being flatter and more complex. Combustion chambers are not truly hemispherical, but that wasn't much benefit back then anyways. Ignition is computerized, coil-on-plug without a distributor, and two spark plugs per cylinder mean flame travel is shorter and more consistent for clean combustion (more power and reduced emissions). Variable valve timing expands the torque spread of the engine operating range and some cars (automatic transmissions without superchargers) have variable displacement for better fuel economy.

These tribute cars are better than the original car. Build quality is tighter, ride quality is better, NVH is better, and the 8-speed automatic transmission in these cars is every bit as reliable and durable as the TorqueFlite offered in the original.
 
2022-09-22 5:34:34 PM  
A "ghost car" that only shows up every once in a while, races & then disappears? There is an anime for that:

Taiho Shichau zo Episode 1 English Subbed
Youtube BNMc2UkBrq0
 
2022-09-22 5:44:31 PM  
A stock 1970 Challenger R/T barely edges out top trim Toyota Camrys from the last decade in 0 to 60 or the standing 1/4 mile. My inner teenager doesn't want to admit that, but it is true.
 
2022-09-22 6:30:51 PM  
giggity.
 
2022-09-22 8:11:42 PM  

mrmopar5287: bloobeary: "How is it a tribute? I seems to lack every single defining detail of the original."

Subby here. Name checks out, etc. It's a magnificent tribute that outclasses the original.

The original Hemi engine was not that great for street use. Made for sale in public cars to homologate, it was detuned. The engine was every bit as heavy and large as the race engine, but compression was 2.25 points lower, the cam was lower-lift, and cast iron exhaust manifolds in place of tube headers. The cars with the engine were expensive, rare, and anyone who wanted a more useable car bought the 440 RB engine or even the 383 B engine were more than enough power for street use. Production costs of the old Hemi engine were high and the cylinder heads were about 25% heavier than a normal wedge head. It was just not that great an engine as people remember.

The new Hemi engine is a masterpiece of engineering, being flatter and more complex. Combustion chambers are not truly hemispherical, but that wasn't much benefit back then anyways. Ignition is computerized, coil-on-plug without a distributor, and two spark plugs per cylinder mean flame travel is shorter and more consistent for clean combustion (more power and reduced emissions). Variable valve timing expands the torque spread of the engine operating range and some cars (automatic transmissions without superchargers) have variable displacement for better fuel economy.

These tribute cars are better than the original car. Build quality is tighter, ride quality is better, NVH is better, and the 8-speed automatic transmission in these cars is every bit as reliable and durable as the TorqueFlite offered in the original.



Wow...
You will be so cool and fast as you return home from the grocery store.
 
2022-09-22 8:24:05 PM  

robv83: You will be so cool and fast as you return home from the grocery store.


The modern tribute cars will be fine for that and definitely more easy to drive, streetable in terms of controlling the power, and overall a better daily driver (if you want to do it) than the original is.
 
2022-09-22 9:39:16 PM  
I don't care who you are, that original is bad ass.
 
2022-09-22 10:16:12 PM  

Priapetic: I don't care who you are, that original is bad ass.


My all-time favorite is the Triple-Black 1968 Dodge Charger in Bullitt.

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The only thing I would change would be to put some alloy wheels on it, even if not period-correct.
 
2022-09-22 10:18:16 PM  

Priapetic: I don't care who you are, that original is bad ass.


Here is the mini documentary on the car:

The Black Ghost: Street Racing Legend - 1970 Dodge Challenger 426 Hemi Documentary
Youtube Jd0io1zktqI
 
2022-09-23 6:08:15 AM  

mybluemake: A stock 1970 Challenger R/T barely edges out top trim Toyota Camrys from the last decade in 0 to 60 or the standing 1/4 mile. My inner teenager doesn't want to admit that, but it is true.


Hell, pickup trucks will smoke a Tri Power GTO (0-60, 6.6s)
 
2022-09-23 8:02:41 AM  
I test drove a Charger with the 392 Scat Pack and was a little scared by it. I told the salesman that I would end up in jail or dead if I had a car like that. It had 485 horsepower, I can't imagine what one of these 800+ hp cars would be like.
 
2022-09-23 9:28:07 AM  

Jojo_TheDogFacedBoy: I test drove a Charger with the 392 Scat Pack and was a little scared by it. I told the salesman that I would end up in jail or dead if I had a car like that.


Have you tried being less of a pussy? As long as you leave the traction and stability control on (unlike all the Mustang guys who seem to turn it off and immediately wreck the car into a curb) it's fine.
 
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